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Old 05-15-2001, 06:31 PM   #1
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What are the symptoms of toxic thyroid please!!!

I am fed up with doctors. Endo docs tell me nothing, and internal docs also...i went in to get T3 T4 and TSH tests and it revealed slightly overactive thyroid, but the docs said no meds because it wasnt bad off to take meds....however i really need to know what are the symptoms of toxic thyroid? Do we just feel plain tired? I really need some input as to what a toxic thyroid is? Is it called hashimotos? Or just thyroiditis?...thanks

 
Old 05-15-2001, 08:36 PM   #2
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Re: What are the symptoms of toxic thyroid please!!!

Hello,
I am so sorry to hear what your going through. I know it's tuff but hang in there. What you could do is ask your doctor if you can go on a trial dose of medicine to see if it helps you. Also ask the doctor "if it can't hurt me, than just start me off on a low dose". Make sure if thyroid problems run in your family that you tell them. Also has any of your doctors you have seen done a scan(ultra sound) of your thyroid to detect if it is enlarged?
Your just getting bad luck with doctors. I have been there. I had to switch doctors too!! The one I am seeing now is great! You have to make sure you tell them every little detail, and be firm with them.
I can't believe all these doctors have seen you and have not treated you!
Please don't give up! I almost did because I felt hopeless. You WILL find a solution. For now drink some green tea, and take a multivitamin till you can get some relief. For some reason green tea is supposed to be good for people with thyroid disorders!
Best of Luck to You,
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Old 05-16-2001, 06:03 PM   #3
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Re: What are the symptoms of toxic thyroid please!!!

Potato, Sorry to hear of all your trouble with the Dr.'s, I answered your other post yesterday on that issue. I have been sick also with hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism in the last 9 yrs, so I know what you are going through. There are 2 types of autoimmune diseases of thyroid: Hashimoto's disease-which is hypothyroidism and Grave's disease -which is hyperthyroidism. You need to get an antibodies test in order to tell if you have either of them. It is a blood test. I would strongly recommend that you read alot of books on the subject of thyroid especially "The Thyroid Solution" by Ridha Arem, and "Solved the riddle of illness" by Stephen E. Langer, both are M.D.'s who happen to know what they are talking about. I know it is so frustrating, but hang in there, and while you are searching for a good Dr., educate yourself as much as possible on the thyroid subject. Hope you find a good Dr. real soon, keep us updated. bye for now, Virginia.

 
Old 05-17-2001, 01:45 PM   #4
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Re: What are the symptoms of toxic thyroid please!!!

Thanks so much for your kind and caring responses! Yesterday my heartbeat shot thru the roof, then it went down this morning. I felt so wired. Now this afternoon it shot back up again...they did take an antibody test finally yesterday when i begged them to..they kept telling me its anxiety...geez, my thyroid tests proved otherwise...the endo docs told me my thyroid was not enlarged months ago....I did ask them for a very low dose of something, but even this they refused...there are no other endo docs to see...really! I need to slow my heartbeat down, can you please tell me any alternatives to help this? thanks

 
Old 05-17-2001, 05:21 PM   #5
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Hi Potato, I think if you can't find an Endo who will help you, you should try a general practitioner or any Dr. who will help you. If you have to, go to the emergency room at the hospital. I am so sick of this happening to people with thyroid disease, being ignored just makes things worse. These people should be sued. I hope you get help soon. Please keep me posted. Virginia.

 
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Hello,
I totally agree with Virginia! Go to the emergency room! Someone has to help you. Like I said before unfortunately, you have run into some idiot doctors. I think they become so used to seeing patient after patient they become cold to their job. Not all doctors but alot do!!
As far as slowing down your heartbeat, I really don't know! So sorry, just don't know that question. I really feel bad for you, because I know what your going through. It is twice as hard when doctors ignore the problems making us feel crazy.
I hope you can get some help.
Keep us posted! Don't give up!
EMILY

 
Old 05-18-2001, 03:18 AM   #7
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I had to go to the emergency room with a pulse of 155! The family doctor said I had anxiety about a week before that. My thyroid is only slightly enlarged and the family doctor did not even notice. Thank god the endo I have now is good! The emergency room gave me something to calm my heart down and called the endo I'm seeing now. Who, by the way said I was the most hyperthyroid she had ever seen. Don't sit at home in a panic, it will only make things worse. Maybe the emergency room doctor can be more resourceful than you in helping find a doctor. I really think it's terrible that we have to go to that level to get the proper help but hell, do whatever it takes! Good luck to you.

 
Old 05-18-2001, 05:03 PM   #8
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Oh DEAR!!! I went to the ER and the docs there did the normal ER tests and said my blood pressure was fine, even though it was high 150....they just gave me an IV and sent me home 4 hours later...the tests they ran in ER said my red blood count was low and so was my potassium....but they never called my endo doc because they said IT WAS JUST A VIRUS MAKING MY HEART BEAT FAST LIKE THAT!!!They said it wasnt my thyroid...so i went yesterday to the internal med doc and i begged her to take an antibody test...she finally said ok, but told me to go see a psychiatrist...geez...

 
Old 05-18-2001, 07:08 PM   #9
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Hey potato,
It is easy for them to tell us we need shrinks! What a bunch of idiot doctors! Try and eat some bananas for potasium, and your gonna have to find a decent doctor. If it makes you feel any better I am so fatigued all day long my eyes feel sore and hard to keep open. My doctor seems to be trying to help me, but I am not getting any relief from my medicine. I have to go see a specialist, but their all booked for months.
I had an anxiety attack so bad a while back that I went to the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. My heart was beating so fast I thought I was going to die. They sent me home and said I was fine. Well, I sure did not feel fine. That is why people with meatobilism problems need to see an endo! I know you have but you just got bad luck with the few doctors you have seen. Their are good doctors, but hard to find!
Atleast by talking to each other we can relate, and know were not the crazy ones! Good luck to you, I sure understand your pain. Somedays, I just wan't to give up, because I feel like I will never feel good again, but I will just have to find a doctor that knows what their doing!
Good Luck To You!
Take Care and keep us updated
EMILY
P.S.Be careful of taking anything with stimulants because that will make your heart-rate go more fast.(caffiene too) Geesh, I can't even have a cup of coffee without wigging out!!

 
Old 05-18-2001, 07:12 PM   #10
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Potato,
I forgot to mention I really don't know of any alternative things for your rapid heartrate! So, sorry!
Tree Frog is a good person to talk to she comes to this board alot, but she is gone for a week right now. When she gets back maybe she can be of some help. She has been very helpful to me!
Try to keep calm because stress will trigger your symptoms to feel worse! Hang in their! Good things come to those who wait!!
EMILY

 
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Having had pretty severe Graves Disease, the only way to slow the heart rate down that I know of, is to remove the hormone that your thyroid is producing in overabudance. The only way to do that is with medication or surgery. I can't believe they didn't give you PTU or something of that sort. Even if it is mild hyperthyroidism, it needs to be treated. It can only get worse. Thyroid conditions are very serious. Now, if we could just convince the dr.'s of that without having ot have a heart attack or heart failure first!

One thing that will help is to cut out caffeine. With your potassium being low, if you are drinking caffeine, it's acting as a diuretic. That will drain your potassium level. When I was hyperthyroid, 1/2 of a diet coke made me feel like my heart was coming out of my chest. The Dr. put me on Inderal, which I think is a pretty common thing to do, along with drinking iodine (which I don't recommend-it's horrible). He also put me on PTU (can't remember what it stands for but don't take it on an empty stomach it will make you sick). I can't believe your dr. wouldn't just try you on it! Being hyperthyroid, he should have sent you for a thyroid uptake and do more testing. Unfortunately, you are going to have to start kicking butt and taking names until you find the right dr. I've been through many. I think we all have on this board. Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

 
Old 05-20-2001, 05:28 PM   #12
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Well on monday i will go to the same endos from last year...i cannot afford the others off my insurance plan..and these gave me tapazole last year which made me deathly sick and it screwed with my liver badly...i am going to seek alternative methods. I heard lemonbalm and bugleweed are good....but what are the symptoms of toxic thyroid? No one has told me yet...

 
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I did not know Tapazole screwed up the liver. More information on that please, if you have it. That's bad! I, at one time, was taking 60mgs a day of it! I'm down to 15mgs a day now and it has never made me sick. Atenolol calmed my heart right down and my ankle swelling went away almost as soon as I started taking it. Sounds like you have to be really careful. As far as I know there are only two anti-thyroid drugs, PTU and Tapazole.

By the way, if you go to a psychiatrist, they will propably run a thyroid test before they start treating you! Thyroid problems are their number one misdioagnosis!

When you go to the doctor, let us know what your numbers are and insist on a T3 and T4 count.

Good luck!

 
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Re: What are the symptoms of toxic thyroid please!!!

If you are indeed hyperthyroid, then yes, all one can do is take a medication or have surgery to remove part or all of it.
BUT,
since the cabbage family lowers thyroid production, try eating lots of it.

Definitely keep stress down, quit caffiene and all stimulants!

 
Old 05-27-2001, 12:32 PM   #15
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update! I contacted a virus 2 wks ago, that attacked my thyroid, causing the thyroid to go hypo..i now feel lethargic, drenched sweating, heart beat goes up still, feverish feeling, dizzy, and urinating alot since this virus. I believe my cholesterol levels are also going up, since my thyroid is swollen...i still havent gotten my thyroid tests back, and i am tired of them dismissing my calls..i'm going in person on monday morning..This virus was a deadly virus, causing my thyroid to swell and now i feel like its choking me. My neck feels swollen..this is awful, first i was hyper then now hypo..all i want is the doctors to treat me correctly...its so hard and frustrating for me..i'm am so close to going alternative to the health store, seems like the docs wont help me..are there any alternatives at the health store, anyone know??

 
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