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Old 01-10-2002, 06:02 PM   #1
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Natural Remedies

I am seeing my doc tomorrow to find out what is going on with my messed up body. I am kind of scared for 2 reasons.
1)He will tell me my blood test came back "with normal results"
2)He will prescribe thyroid meds.

I am concerned with #2 because I am not thrilled about the idea of being on medication for the rest of my life....my life and thus medical insurance isn't that stable yet. (I'm young).
I was just wondering if anyone knows of herbal or homeopathic ways I can help myself and this problem out.

PS-there is a history of hypo thyroid in my family and I have all the symptoms, but no lump in my neck. What does that mean?'

Thanks.

 
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Re: Natural Remedies

Hi bitterglitter,
If you are indeed hypothyroid, you do need the "med", which is actually replacing the thyroid hormone your body can't produce. "Normal" lab tests for thyroid do not mean you are not hypothyroid.

Whether you have insurance should not deterine if you take care of this. I understand that it is overwhelming to think of med the rest of your life.
But at full price, my med is under $10 a month. I have a deductable, so my med is full price.

There is no good way to self-medicate a thyroid hormone. You could easiy make yourself hyper, which is as dangerous as being long term hypothyroid.

Please don't fret over this. If you are hypo, you NEED the hormone. If you aren't, a trial for a few months of the hormone will help determine if that is true.

 
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Old 01-11-2002, 01:20 PM   #3
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Well, I just got back from the doc's and he said just what I thought he would. "Your blood test came back normal"
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO depressed.
I have no idea why I am so fat, tired, cold and sickly, and no doctor will help me. I almost cried when I came out of there, I would have if my boyfriend wasnt sitting next too me. I'm kind of tired of crying in front of him all the time, it's always about the same thing.
I actually felt well last week, nothing was hurting, I had a little energy, and I went for a walk. My BF was shocked. He said I was like a different person.

I'm so frustrated and terrified that I will have to feel this way for the rest of my life, and there is nothing I can do about it.

Sorry to be so negative...not having a good day.

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Can you get copies of your lab results and post them. Just because the doctor thinks your tests are normal, doesn't mean they are normal for you. "Normal" is a dirty word in my vocabulary. If you post those results and their lab ranges, at least I can give you some idea of whether another doctor would have a different opinion or not.

Meanwhile, there are things you can do nutritionally that might help.

For starters ALWAYS eat breakfast, but make sure it is a nutritious one, not coffee and donuts.

Water, water, water, water. I repeated that for a reason. drinking water is VITAL to everything your body does. If you are starved for water, all of your body's processes suffer. Drink at LEAST a half gallon of water a day. Preferable this would be a good bottled water that is pure and chlorine and flouride free (chlorine and flouride-both of which are likely in your tap water-slow your thyroid). Alternatively get a cheap water filter that you can install on your kitchen faucet. I paid less then $20 for mine at Wal-Mart and it makes my water SO much better. Also, drinking plenty of water will help you SHED water weight, believe it or not. Water, water WATER!


Don't drink sodas which will dry you out and make you retain water in places you shouldn't.

Eliminate sugary foods from your diet and limit starchy foods such as bread and potatoes. If you use caffeine, slowly wean yourself off of it. Getting the sugar and caffeine out of my diet made a BIG difference for me.

Watch your diet for sources of Soy. Read the Information Archive. I posted a comprehensive list of foods to avoid there It is way down the first page. Here's the link: <A HREF="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum118/HTML/000005.html" TARGET=_blank>Information Archive</A>

One thing you can try is L-Tyrosine. It is an amino acid that is a building block for thyroid hormones among other things. Thyroid hormones are Tyrosine molecules with iodine atoms attached. You would take it on an empty stomach in the morning at least an hour before you eat or two or more hours after you eat on a daily basis. Some people who are borderline have reported getting back on track with just this. It is fairly inexpensive, too. As an example, a month's supply can be had at Wal-Mart for under $5.

Something else that helps is Selenium. 200mcg a day can he very helpful to make sur eyour body is converting T4 to T3--important for keeping your energy level up. T3 is vital for protein synthesis (muscle building, among other things). If you have enough T3 and get a little exercise, that can help burn fat since muscles do help to burn fat.

Maca is a general tonic that can help to boost your endocrine system including your adrenals (helpful with your lack of stamina in exercising and to help with swelling) and to a lesser extent, your thyroid. A month's supply is about $9 at Wal-mart.

This should be a good start. I know it sounds like alot, but changing one thing at a time can really help. The effects build over time.

Meanwhile post your lab results and lets see if another opinion might get you headed down the path to wellness.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bitterglitter:
<B>Well, I just got back from the doc's and he said just what I thought he would. "Your blood test came back normal"
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO depressed.
I have no idea why I am so fat, tired, cold and sickly, and no doctor will help me.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I saw in the Weight Loss forum that you said you were a vegetarian. Do you think this might be why you can't loose the weight? Are you eating soy as a source of protein? Soy has been discussed here quite a bit and how it can have a negative influence on thyroid function.

Carbohydrates stimulate the release of insulin, the fat storing hormone. Protein stimulates the release of glucagon, the fat burning hormone. Something to consider at your next meal.

You may want to seriously evaluate why you are a vegetarian. I do not believe that it is very healthy in the long run. The human body requires too many essential elements found mostly or exclusively in animal products, B-12 being a case in point.

While bloodtests can be used to confirm hypothroidism, they aren't very good for diagnosing it because the normal lab ranges may not be normal for everyone or every situation.

Another thing, have you had your cholesterol level checked? Low choleserol levels are linked with depression and increased suicide risk. Cholesterol plays an important role in many body functions, especially the central nervous system.

If you wish to remain a vegetarian for whatever reason, you might want to consider incorporating eggs and dairy into your diet. Eggs are an excellent source of protein and good quality fats and cholesterol (most of the cholesterol in your bloodstream is actually produced in your liver, not from the cholesterol you eat). Things like cottage cheese and un-sweetened yogurt from whole milk are also good sources of protein and relatively low in carbohydrates.

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Old 01-14-2002, 11:28 AM   #6
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Re: Natural Remedies

Well, I just bought some pills that are for thyroid support. They contain L-Tyrosine and Thyroidinum. I just started taking them, and I noticed an increase in energy.

As for my diet, I try very hard to get a lot of protein. For breakfast I had Kashi Go-Lean cereal (9 g of protein per serving) topped with plain yogurt. I don't avoid dairy or eggs, and I like milk, I drink it often. I don't like meat because I find it disgusting, I don't care for the texture, and I have seen the facilities where they grow chickens. Eeek!

I will try to get my test results. I had a terrible experience with this doctor. <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/frown.gif">

Thanks for all your suggestions. I will try to get some selenium. Also, do you think that I should supplement my diet with whey shakes? They are a good source of protien, and isn't soy.

 
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I am not sure about the cereal, but tha Kashi Go-Lean bars have soy isoflavones added. these are chemicals that are known to interfere with the way your body metabolizes thyroid hormones. It is worth checking the cereal to see and eating something else for breakfast if what you are eating has soy in it.

For more information on Soy check out this site: <A HREF="http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soysdownsides/" TARGET=_blank>http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soysdownsides/</A>

and even more here: <A HREF="http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz" TARGET=_blank>http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz</A>

 
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