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Old 06-23-2011, 04:06 AM   #1
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Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

Hello,

Just wondered if anyone has come across a home remedy for shrinking thyroid nodules? I have four. I'll be having an aspiration in August to check whether they are hard or soft cysts. My blood work shows mild hyperT, TSH is less than 0.01, though I don't have many physical symptoms apart from occasional heart pounding and a little rapid heart beating during the night which doesn't last more than a few seconds.

I've currently ordered something called serrapeptase but haven't tried it yet, don't know if it works. Any advice would be much appreciated, but it is a natural remedy that I'm after. Thanks.

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Re: Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

Do you have your other blood work, such as free t4, antibodies? If you have it with the ranges, perhaps some people can help you.

If you've had an ultrasound, those are usually effective in determining whether you have "cysts" or "solid nodules"---you aren't going to get rid of them with any medication if you are hyperthyroid. They may actually be "hot nodules" that are making you hyperthyroid.

In terms of "natural" hyperthyroid treatments, you would need more information before taking things. If you are very hyper, your heart is at risk, as are your bones.

 
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:15 AM   #3
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Re: Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

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Do you have your other blood work, such as free t4, antibodies? If you have it with the ranges, perhaps some people can help you.

If you've had an ultrasound, those are usually effective in determining whether you have "cysts" or "solid nodules"---you aren't going to get rid of them with any medication if you are hyperthyroid. They may actually be "hot nodules" that are making you hyperthyroid.

In terms of "natural" hyperthyroid treatments, you would need more information before taking things. If you are very hyper, your heart is at risk, as are your bones.
Hello Reece,

Thanks for your reply.

Over the last few months my blood results were as follows:

23rd Nov 2010: TSH 0.01- ; T4 10.9; T3 7.2+ (Normal UK levels in this hospital: TSH 0.2-4; T4 11-22.6; T3 3.5-6.5)

1st Feb 2011: TSH 0.01- ; T4 14.3; T3 5.6

March 2011: Can't find the figures but from memory it was: TSH <0.01; T4 around 18; T3 around 8

I think I had my antibodies checked at my last hospital visit but I don't have the results yet.

I've had an ultrasound done and the specialist thinks they are soft cysts, but I'm having more tests done in Aug to verify this. If the cysts aren't 'hot' nodules then I'm wondering whether I have Graves disease which I've read is an autoimmune condition causing the thyroid to produce too much thyroxine. This excess thyroxine, as you'll know causes the pituatory gland to produce less TSH, however, I read somewhere this week that it is this reduction in TSH which can cause nodules to grow. I'd love to hear anyone else's knowledge about the subject. Many thanks.

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Re: Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

Your March labs show you to have what is called "T3 thyrotoxicosis" which is suppressed TSH, in-range T4 and over-range T3.

This is most commonly treated with a beta-blocker such as propranolol. Not only does the beta-blocker address the cardiac issues you are having, it also interferes with the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) into T3 (active hormone). This effectively lowers the T3 level.

Now, your lab history showed a steady increase in your T4 level. March is a long time ago when dealing with hyperthyroidism.

I sure hope your doctors have run new labs. I suspect you might have full-blown hyperthyroidism now.

Anti-thyroid drugs such as carbimazole can effectively lower thyroid hormone levels with minimal side effects.

200mg acetyl-l-carnitine is very effective at reducing hyper symptoms and lowering thyroid hormone levels. Since common side effects are nausea and insomnia, it's best to take in the morning with breakfast.

There are some other natural ways to lower thyroid hormone levels - a naturopath can help with that. Some people have had success with this product called "Thyro-Soothe" - not sure if it's available in the UK.

Truly, before you embark on any treatment course, new labs are most definitely in order.

Since Graves' is the most common cause of hyperthyroidism/T3 thyrotoxicosis, I hope you were checked for TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulin) or TRab (TSH receptor antibodies).

There are other antibody tests that appear in autoimmune thyroid disease but, they will not confirm Graves'.

TSH has no physiological effects.....it's the effects of out-of-whack thyroid hormone levels that can cause symptoms/nodules.
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:37 PM   #5
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Re: Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

Hi Sammy64, many thanks for your reply. I appreciate it, and thank you for the information. My last lot of blood tests, after March, were earlier this month, June 2011. I haven't got the results yet. I'm also scheduled for a fine needle aspiration in early August and another lot of blood tests, including one for checking antibodies.

Physically I don't feel as though I'm worse, but my thyroid does swell and hurt sometimes, then the extra swelling goes back down to its usual lumpy size. We can't ask the doctors what tests we want them to do here in England because if we don't have private health insurance, the government pays for our health service instead, and patients don't get a look in regarding what kind of treatment they want.

Does L-Carnitine block thyroxine or iodine? I thought I read somewhere that it blocks iodine and it put me off taking it because I thought our bodies need iodine. Anyway, if it blocks thyroxine that's better news. Thanks for mentioning Thyro-soothe I should be able to buy it online somewhere.

Whoever comes up with a natural cure for thyroid nodules will make themselves millionaires. Best wishes to you Sammy64 and good health. Meadowsweet :-)

 
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Re: Natural Cure Wanted for Thyroid Cysts

I am aware of the limitations of the NHS but, somehow, I thought people were able to convince their GP's to run certain tests.

Acetyl-l-carnitine blocks the entry of excess thyroid hormone into the cell nucleus of various body systems. It not only blocks thyroxine (T4) but, also triiodothyronine (T3).

People with any type of thyroid disease are really better off avoiding iodine since it interferes with the metabolism of thyroid hormone. Yes, iodine is necessary for proper thyroid function but, the residents of most industrialized nations get more than the recommended amount of iodine in their daily diets.

So, you will benefit if you avoid consuming shellfish and iodized salt...and minimize your consumption of fast/processed foods (which often contain a lot of iodized salt).

Another way to lower thyroid hormone levels is to eat 1 - 1 1/2 cups of goitrogenic foods (you can Google for a list). The foods must be eaten raw since cooking destroys their goitrogenic properties. You can look at post #18 on the thyroid information thread in the permanent section here:

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=106126&page=4

The reason the writer said to avoid these foods was due to the fact that the list was compiled for hypothyroid people - hyperthyroid people would do the opposite.

Thanks for your good wishes - I extend the same to you.
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