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Old 09-01-2003, 07:46 PM   #1
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You all know my main problems are ear related..

Anyone have the following, and if so.. please explain:

- Ear Fullness
- Ear Fullness when exposed to sounds (usually loud)
- Weird clicking noises in ears
- CLicking in ears when people talk
- Pressure changes in ear (feels that way anyways)
- Ear "spasms" -- sounds like rumbling in the ears
- Hyperacusis (sensitivity to sound)

I can have my windows down a bit in the car and CRANK the music and it doesn't bother me... I put the windows up, and the volume has to go WAY down.. as even 1 minute exposure makes my right ear FULL.. I can still hear in the ear, but it's a very uncomfortable feeling.

Am I alone with this? I know people get ear fullness.. but mine is usually only there when I hear sounds or music and stuff like that.

Can you tell I am still not convinced that I have TMJD.. feel free to put me back in line

It may take awhile though and i am sorry if I keep bringing down the house here.. but, I am NOT convinced.

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Old 09-01-2003, 08:15 PM   #2
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Jamie,

If you have a dislocated disc, you most likely have ear related problems as the disc that has been dislocated usually ends up being dislocated internally in the joint, being closer to the inner ear.

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Old 09-01-2003, 08:35 PM   #3
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Hi Jamie,

If you've been to other doctors and a medical cause cannot be determined, there is a strong possibility that it is being caused by a spasm in the tensor tympanic muscle of the middle ear. This will also cause fluctuations in the hearing level. As with the muscle around the eustachian tube, this muscle can also go into spasm when the chewing muscles are irritated because the two come from the same embryological area.
I know it may be difficult to see the connection, but TMJ does cause ear symptoms in varying degrees. Personally, I had a constant full feeling in both ears, and an incredible pressure sensation as well. I also had a constant "buzzing" in varying degrees. I also had itching deep in both ears - felt like I just wanted to shove something in there to scratch! I found that some people's voices were "too loud", and the bass tones in music or on TV were sometimes almost unbearable.

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Old 09-01-2003, 08:50 PM   #4
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Hi Jamie:

I can absolutely relate with you about the car windows. I haven't noticed that problem in my car, but have in my bedroom. My bedroom faces a main road and when cars go by, they make a whizzing or humming sound. If my bedroom window is closed, sometimes the sounds make me crazy even though they're not that loud. If I open my window a little, the sound becomes slightly more bearable. I think it's because the soundwaves have somewhere to go (I have no idea, this is just my guess).

I'm also experiencing sensitivity to noise, and like Marlene mentioned, bass is a problem.

Have you seen a dentist who specializes in TMJD? They would be able to assess the problem.

Take care,
Arleen
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Old 09-01-2003, 08:58 PM   #5
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My ears don't always ring, but it's like something electrical like a tv or pc hissing sound.
And the clicking sounds are only for an hour or so when I wake up, it feels like my eardrums are moving when there's sound, doesn't matter if it's loud or not. It's unbearable
Have you told your doctor about it?

I have my first appointment with a tmj specialist in a couple of hours

I hope all goes well for you


 
Old 09-02-2003, 12:11 AM   #6
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Jamie,

I may have already given you this info, I don't remember.

I first went to the Doctor over 25 years ago with ear problems. Ear aches, stabbing pains, constant itching and all kinds of weird ear problems.

I started going to ENT's and Otologists and all they found was, I had hearing that was off the charts and I could hear frequencies most people don't hear, especially in the low range. No real problems with my ears.

Later, it I was told it was Hyperacusis. After being diagnosed with TMJD,with some of the treatments and especially with surgeries, it would become unbearable.

None of these Ear Doctors ever related it to the TMJD.
None of the TMJD Doctors would say the TMJD was causing the Ear problems.

A few years ago, when I developed more symtoms with my ears, I went to a Neuro-otologist. He was amazed at my hearing level and told me it was all related to TMJD. He said get "it" fixed and your ear problems will go away. That seemed pretty hopeless at that time.

I developed a screaming, roaring Tinnitus almost 3 years ago. I went to 5 of the best ENT's in my area, they said nothing to do with the TMJD, nothing would help, learn to live with it.

I went back to the Neuro-otologist, he said, completely TMJD related. Get something done for the TMJD and your ear problems will get much better or may go away completely. I thought getting any help with the TMJD at this point was pretty hopeless and didn't want to believe him.

In December, I got a splint designed to relax the muscles and support my joints (no disc) and immediately began to get better. The ear problems have almost gone away. The Tinnitus is still a little bothersome. I've been told it's usually the last to go. The Hyperacusis is now back to just incredibly good hearing, mostly, and he was absolutely right.

If you have this specialty (Neuro-otologist) in your area, I would reccommend seeing one. They have much more training than regular Ear Doctors or ENT's. They have an incredible understanding of the neural aspects of ear problems and the one I see knows as much about TMJD as anyone I know. He actually sees the close proximity of the TM Joint and the Auricular Cavity.

If you do not have TMJD, this type of Specailist might could tell you what you do have.

You could be in the early stages of TMJD and other symtoms may follow. (I had ear problems all of my life, and spent 2 years as a young adult trying to find out what was going on with my ears before other very obvious symtoms of TMJD began and I was diagnosed)

When you have time, do some reading about "Pinto's Ligament", the "Tensor Veli Palantini" and the "Tensor Tympani" muscles and the connection will be a little clearer to you.

Good Luck to you and I hope you find the answers you need soon,

Cymy Sue


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