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Old 11-25-2004, 12:41 PM   #1
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Occlusal Bite Adjustment

Since my tmj started nine months ago I have had an occlusal bite adjustment where the tmj specialist files down the teeth to even out my bite. My bite has changed where now my back teeth feels like its more flat. Two days ago I went to the dentist again to have my bite adjusted again. I do have my regrets now having another adjustment done because now my back teeth doesn't feel like its touching properly. My back teeth doesn't have that cusp edging anymore partly due to grinding my teeth and chewing ice over the years and also from the dentist adjusting my bite. I am not going to let the dentist adjust my bite anymore because it only seems to make things worse and I cannot afford to have my teeth crowned. And if I wear a mouth splint at nights for the teeth grinding my bite seems to change. Has anyone had an occlusal bite adjustment and it made their bite worse?

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Old 11-25-2004, 07:26 PM   #2
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

Yes, I've had this done by two idiot dentists over the years. In my opinion it's nothing more than BS. I don't know a single person who has had this done who it has worked for. I don't know why dentists continue to do this to patients. I also will never allow another to do this to me because it weakens the teeth. You have made a wise decision to not allow it to be done to you any more.
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Old 11-26-2004, 05:25 AM   #3
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

I had my teeth "adjusted" several times while having the "root canal from you know where". I now know that while undergoing the root canal it caused the muscles to tighten which threw my bite off. So what they were actually doing by adjusting my teeth was adjusting it to the bad bite. Now that my muscles have loosened and are going back to where they should after a year and a half the bite is worse. It feels like trying to put two magnets together and my teeth just fight to stay apart so they won't hit in the wrong place. You did the right thing by stopping.
My doctor just put me on Neutontin and is setting me up in a pain clinic. Has anyone had any experience with one?

 
Old 11-26-2004, 11:07 AM   #4
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

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Yes, I've had this done by two idiot dentists over the years. In my opinion it's nothing more than BS. I don't know a single person who has had this done who it has worked for. I don't know why dentists continue to do this to patients. I also will never allow another to do this to me because it weakens the teeth. You have made a wise decision to not allow it to be done to you any more.
Tiffany
I totally agree. Ever since two inept dentists tinkered with my bite two years ago, my teeth never feels the same. I have trouble chewing food b/c they no longer touch each other right. On top of it, I now have TMJD and I started clenching and grinding at night ever since.

What I do not understand with so much ineptness, how the heck they can graduate from dental school?

 
Old 11-28-2004, 04:08 PM   #5
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The dentist who did my occlusal bite adjustment said he only grinded down very little only the rough edges that showed up on the carbon. In his own words this is what he said "I got rid of the speed bumps but not enough to change your occlusion." Maybe he is right because to make matters worse I do have OCD-Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder which causes me to notice every little detail or changes made to my teeth which the dentist knows. I do drive my dentist up the walls by calling him and telling him why is my teeth the way it is now just to seek reassurance. He told me that it will take time a few weeks getting use to. He also said that its something I will just have to live with because he can't reverse what he did which is true. I do again regret having it done, but again it cannot be reversed. I seem to be obsessed with this occlusal adjustment that was done to me. I just hope it doesn't make my tmj worse in the future.

 
Old 05-08-2005, 08:31 PM   #6
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

Hi, I have heard the opposite, I am due to have my back teeth filed down a bit because my wisdom teeth pushed them almost 4mm higher than the rest of my teeth and thats what started my tmj, but I have met many people who my oral surgeon has worked on that it has helped. I am looking forward to it. I cant close my jaw because they moved so much from impacted wisdom teeth. but I guess it's who does it, this guy I go to is an oral surgeon and only does tmj patient's,.nothing else. he even gave me a client list to call to put me at ease, they were all very honest with me.from what I have heard regular dentists are not very seasoned at treating tmjd, only oral ssurgeons who specialize in this are, so thats where I went, one denstist wanted to file all my teeth, I walked right out of the office, I found this guy 10 mins from where I live and he explained what he wanted to do including p[ossibly braces in the futurte. any one had braces to correct there tmj?? let me know ,mike

 
Old 05-08-2005, 11:43 PM   #7
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

Hello,
You should never let a whacko fill down your teeth. This very much has to do with vertical dimension and the concept of Gelb 4/7. When they fill it down, you lack vertical dimension & are not within the Gelb 4/7. If they keep doing it, your condyle will eventually hit the cranium. But why do some dentists do it? I don't know. Don't they have the knowledge? They did graduate from a dental school right? Anyway, i hate dentists.

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Old 05-09-2005, 10:39 AM   #8
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Hi there - I agree with all the negative feedback regarding filing the teeth down. I had a former dentist who filed my molars down to "close my bite", and now 18 years later, I'm going through the whole 9 yards of TMD treatment (had 24/7 occlusal/alignment splint, now onto 3 years of braces with oral surgery). My open bite will never close on its own without surgery, and due to my chronic bruxism + the filing of my teeth, I've worn the surfaces down to basically nothing according to my current ortho.

Be very careful of having this procedure done - it may end up hurting your alighment & bite more than helping.

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Old 05-09-2005, 12:22 PM   #9
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

I had a bite specialist, a "prosthodontist", do the equilibration(bite adjustment,shaving down of rear molars) then he put a crown and 3 inlays to correct my bite from prior bad dental work which screwed up the original natural bite. This was two years ago. My bite on the right side was "too low" and the left side was more like the natural bite. I asked him to if he could leave my left side alone as it wasn't that bad. He insisted on working on my left side(he said he would do this to help me as though he would do for his own sister--big mistake). He did the permanent left opposing crown and inlays on by throwing the permanents on at the same time, then lied and said that my teeth were touching properly when I knew they weren't. Needless to say after all the complaining he just refunded me the amount of the crown, but now my bite on the LEFT is worse than ever and doesn't even touch at all(completely open). He just ground the left side to match the bad right side which was too low. The sad thing is from the beginning, I had healthy teeth. THe fillings I had done were of a "PREVENTATIVE" nature to stop early decay before it became cavities. BUt other dentists told me this was completely unnecessary because preventative fillings are usually done to young people under 20 years old. As you get older the teeth change and are not as susceptible usually. So healthy teeth were shaved repeatedly for the money. As one dentist told me dental work begets more dental work....

THen subsequent dentists just kept blaming him saying he screwed up the bite and not much could be done except "MINOR ADJUSTMENTS". The minor adjustments just LOWERED the bite again -- so to make a long story short, I am out nearly $10,000 to correct a bad bite and tmjd symptoms when things were just made worse. MOst of the dentists I have seen do not really want to do anything at this point. THey just are appalled at what the prior dentist, espescially the prosthodontist had to do to generate income. It's really disgusting that they know this doesn't work but they just tell you what you want to hear to get your money. NOw with my short rear molars, I have tmjd jaw, neck, and spinal pain now that everything has really been thrown out of whack.

Beware of equilibrations, because just shaving down of teeth and cusps just leads to shorter teeth even if they are more even.

 
Old 05-09-2005, 12:30 PM   #10
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Re: Dentist Filing Teeth Down

GOod things,

I agree with you to call this dentists that shave down teeth WHACKOS. THe two I dealt with were the real whackos and they tried to make it out that I was too sensitive or "crazy". Every dentist that I've seen after the prosthodontist really seemed disgusted by the work that was done. Even the restorations the prostho did don't even resemble natural shaped teeth, they just are square flat blocks(like two bricks) on top of each other. I think just because these whackos pay to get through dental school they think they are god or something and whatever they say goes.

 
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