I just saw my dentist this morning and he started talking about how this new device can probably help my situation since my bite is bad and seems to be the cause of my tmj problem. He started to describe how it's used and I smiled and said I just read about it on the internet (thank you for your post!) He is going to find someone in my area who has one and I'm going to try it out. In addition, he's working with a new company that has developed a way to take impressions and transfer them to computer so the dentist can play with the model on computer to determine the best treatment plan. It's similiar to the process they use for invisalign braces, which I already have. My dentist is going to try to have my case analyzed and used by the company as a case study. I'll keep you posted on the developments.
"He is going to find someone in my area who has one and I'm going to try it out. In addition, he's working with a new company that has developed a way to take impressions and transfer them to computer so the dentist can play with the model on computer to determine the best treatment plan."
wow - I would be really interested in that - if you can find out the name of the company so I can mention it to my tmj dr. He told me he recently switched to a different lab that has better technology and more training with tmj cases so I think he would be interested in this. Sounds very promising.
I am curious to know how that works. I am seeing another dentist next week for a consult and the week after seeing one in town that use the tek-bite computer (the only one in my area that uses it) so if I think he could really help me I'd rather go to the one in town as the other dentist is an hour away.
I guess the computer is suppose to actually tell you a lot more than just the carbon paper they use like how hard each tooth and what angle each tooth hits.
I called the dentist with the tek-bite computer and they don't want to see me until my orthodontic work is complete (makes sense). Then I saw my ortho to get the remaining trays of invisalign and mentioned this other dentist and the tek-bite, he got very arrogant and said he doesn't need a computer to tell him how to adjust teeth, it's just a new gimic and the dentists that have them must charge enough to cover the cost of the machine. He said there's an art to adjustments and he's very experienced and a he teaches other dentists how to do it. I really didn't like his attitude, but on the other hand it will cost me another $3,000 to go to this other dentist with the tek-bite vs having my arrogant ortho do the adjustment which is included in his whpping $8,000 he charged me for the braces. I'm not sure which way to go, any thoughts???
Also, I had a CAT scan today ordered by my primary care doctor, she wanted to see exactly what those lumps are under my ear. It's probably the muscle tissue built up from the constant spasms but she wanted to rule out anything else.
Before i put out big bucks to pay for dentists new equipment,
i would look for a neuromuscular dentist in your area that has
been trained to understand that all people have some form
of maloclusion but are asymptomatic and they are not clenching or bruxing. The rest of us have symptoms of facial
pain, joint clicking and head pain. Most all dentist who have
kept up, realize TMJ has to do with the bite and no one is
using carbon to bite down on. You can work with a specialist
who uses and understands that the pain comes from the muscles, not the joint and the bruxing and clenching is the
jaw's way of finding that comfortable position. A Tens unit
can be used to diagnosis where the points are that are causing the pain and a doc in hollywood who was on Extreme Makeover uses a bite...am not sure here if i can
post the docs name and there are many who use it....it is
cheap and the Dr. is Dr, Bill Dorfman. he makes no money
from it and someone else manufactures it but if it is your
bite it will stop the pain in two minutes....look it up. Karen
Thanks Karen, prior to the orthdontic treatment I did see a neuromuscular dentist and had my teeth adjusted. It seemed like it was helping for a while but towards the end of treatment the spasms came back and he didn't want to continue with the adjustments.
I've read about the tens unit but have not been to anyone who has used one. That brings up my other question-when you have adjustments done and your neck and facial muscles are in spasm are they adjusting your teeth to your "bad bite"? The neuromuscular dentist fitted me with an NTI which I had to wear the night before adjustment and I had to go to his office first thing in the morning without taking it out. Supposedly my muscles would be relaxed at that time. But because this has been going on for over 3 years my muscles have been in spasm for the entire time and weren't relaxed during the adjustments. How do they determine what is the correct bite? Right now my bite is different when I sleep, sit, stand etc and I can never relax my jaw and feel comfortable. I feel like I'm allways fighting with my jaw.
Hi will try to give you more details without breaking any
rules here. I have blocked eustachian tube or full ones and i
am constantly popping my ears to relieve the pressure. There
is another board here for inner ear disorders and there is a
huge thread on inner ear problems and bruxing or grinding of the teeth and jaw clenching. Look at the board. Also the
orthosis that Dr. Dorfman uses and says it works immediately
to relieve the pain and correct the bite is called the best-bite
discluder and it is available to anyone. I have no idea if it
works and almost sounds like something too good to be
true. I also would suggest you just type in Neruomuscular
Dentistry and hit a site that explains what it is and how
problems are diagnosed and the solution or theirs to your
pain. I would think that the only time your jaw is relaxed
is at night and that is when we are clenching or grinding.
The grinding and clenching is the body's way of trying to
get to your comfortable bite and jaw position that is the
natural one. You may have never gotten to that state. It
sounds like the dentist you had gone to was on the right
tract but the tens unit should have been used since it
pulses and relaxes the muscles in he jaw area and sends
blood flow in and toxins or lactic acid build up out from all
of the contractions and spasms. You have to have been
able to relax the jaw enough for them to fit you with a
orthosis to correct your bite. There are different methods
to to this and i think a ten unit can show what muscles
you are using and which ones need relaxing. That is why
facial massage is so good. It is amazing but when your
head is forward over your body and your neck hurts and
shoulders and arms.....this all goes back to the correct bite
and joint placement. This throws the entire body out of wack.....I was amazed at how these muscles take over and
we have such pain from using the wrong muscles that you
do anything posture wise to your body to compensate. I
had to have my hip resurfaced because of many years of
dance and i had pain for four years prior and walked like
Lurch on the Munsters.....i had to relearn how to walk again
after the surgery since our body is so use to walking the
wrong way that it continues to do so after the reason is
long gone. That is why you where the bite orthosis to retrain the proper muscles to work that area. Hope this