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Old 09-04-2007, 02:42 AM   #1
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Massage Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

I ran into a women the other day who is a licensed message therapist and i was telling her about my jaw and my ear fullness, muscle tightness in my left side. She said there are muscles to manipulate for that and she would be happy to work with me.

Anyone have any experience with this or luck? Thanks much!!
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Re: Message Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

I had very good short term results with facial and neck massages but my pain/soreness would keep returning. Dentist wasn't surprised said if the cause of the problem wasn't treated i.e. a bad bite then massage can only be a stop gap measure.
After a hot shower I rub arnica oil on my temples and jaw. Its a herbal and has anti-inflamatory properties, get good results.

Now I'm in splint therapy, the loads are shifting which is a weird sensation. Week one, not better but changing which is giving me hope because I was getting really down over the whole experience.

 
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:27 PM   #3
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Re: Message Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

Same here - I went to PT for 4 months in which they would do deep heat therapy, ultra sound therapy and then massage therapy ending with stretching exercises - I would feel pretty good or better than before the appt but it would only last a few hours to a day and then return since it doesn't fix the real problem. I went twice a week as that is all my insurance would allow. But if you are in terrible pain it is better than no treatment so if your insurance will cover it I would recommend you give it a try.

 
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Re: Message Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

the wierd thing is i don't have extreme pain, i just get the full feeling in my ear/jaw and have muscle tightness on the whole left side of my head/neck.
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Re: Massage Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

also, i feel like my left side of head is under water - just off but again, not extrememe pain??
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:22 AM   #6
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Re: Massage Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

The muscle tightness is probably either causing inflamation to the eustachion tubes or constricting them which can cause the fullness in the ears and pain in that area as well. The muscle tightness needs to be addressed since it canl cause other seemingly unrelated symptoms.

 
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what do you mean seemingly unrelated symptoms? Thanks
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I went to a massage therapist almost 20 years ago when I first was diagnosed with TMJ. My dental work and bite had already been addressed. The MT was very helpful. She made me aware of different ways I would hold my head and the way I talked, which was also contributing to the problem.

In recent years I have had flair ups of the TMJ that manifested itself in differnt ways, like the ear fullness that folks have talked about here. There is a TMJ pain clinic in the local hospital where they will massage, stretch and otherwise treat the actual muscles inside the mouth and the joints. I found that very helpful also.

I would agree though that you have to address the underlying issues too. If your bite is off or you have other structural issues, it would probably only relieve you temporarily.

 
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what do you mean seemingly unrelated symptoms? Thanks
Some people bounce back and forth when they have symptoms like an ear ache or fullness, some jaw pain, etc and are not sure if it is related to their tmj or some other problem requiring an ENT when in actuality it is usually caused by the muscles overworking and becoming inflamed. I guess from your previous post where you said "I don't have extreme pain" I assumed you meant or thought that because you did not have extreme pain your other symptoms may not be due or related to tmj or that you were even questioning if you had tmj and not some other issue or condition. Sorry if I misread or misunderstood your post.

 
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thelma -louise - okay - i get what you meant - thanks
i have been to an ent and nothing wrong with ears etc. I have had tmj for years but haven't been to a specialist is some time since i moved to a community many years ago where there's noone that really knows what they're doing with tmj. Should i go to a dental school to have it checked out? don't really know where to start. I've had the popping and clicking for 20 plus years, the fullness/almost dizzy feeling in one ear/jaw area, etc. Where should i start after all of these years?
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A dental school is actually a great place to start since they usually have a separate tmj dept and pain mgmt clinic and most of the professors also have their own private practice - although they charge more if you go to it - but its also a great way to get referrals of other drs that may be in your area. You can also search the web under TMJ or maxillo facial pain specialists or neuromuscular dentists and see what you can find in your area as well as check the Archived Information sticky post at the top of this forum for org web sites related to tmj - most of them list member drs. There is also a Great TMJ Dr sticky post at the top of this forum that lists drs recommended by current or former members.

 
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If your TMJ is muscular instead of structural, then you may get good results from massage. Mine is muscular and caused by tension. I have a lot of pain in my shoulder and neck as well as jaw, and my left shoulder is higher than my right. I don't have any popping. I had good results from Bowen therapy, as well as physical therapy. I haven't had a massage, but I have one scheduled on Friday and I am nervous about it. It's myofascial trigger release therapy (I have myofascial pain other places also). My mom just had it and she said she felt like she'd been beat up.

 
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Re: Massage Therapist and TMJ - anyone get help

What's the Bowen therapy?

Hopefully you can relax and enjoy your massage. By the time I got to an MT, I was so discouraged that I really had an attitude about it. I had been to numerous doctors, dentists, etc. Been through having my bite adjusted a miilion times and a bite plate to wear at night. It took the MT a little while to break down my defenses that this wasnt just another therapy that wouldnt work.

Maybe the MT can assess the way you hold yourself and talk, etc. I found I tended to not open my mouth when talking and talk more with a clenched jaw. Learning to open my mouth more widely really helped as well as taking frequent breaks at work relax the neck, open the jaw more fully etc. I also incorporate some of the hands on inner and outer mouth manipulation that they did at the TMJ pain clinic.

 
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