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Old 08-13-2009, 06:27 PM   #1
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Something is so wrong with my Jaw w/ update

I have noticed over the last couple of weeks that my jaw has been clicking and popping. This morning when I woke up I realized that when I bite only my front two teeth touch, I can slide my jaw back, but it's not comfortable. I have also noticed that my vision is not quite right, and some vertigo. The lower back teeth on the right side ache, but are not sensitive to hot, cold, or even the pressure of eating.

It's funny i had a bout with vertigo two years ago that lasted for 4 months and no one really knew what was wrong with me. It went away on it's own slowly. But at that time I didn't notice any problems with my jaw or teeth.

I have an appointment with my dentist on Tuesday and one with my regular doctor tomorrow. I think my question is - is this one of those things that the earlier you catch the easier it is to treat or have I been slowly causing damage and not even knowing it? Is it always a joint problem or could I have just messed up the muscles and or ligaments. Should I ask my regular doctor for a muscle relaxer?

Update - Went to my regular doctor today. She checked out my jaw a bit, and said yea i think something is up with your TMJ. No wonder you feel like you're off. I explained about my insurance thing - she told me things could be worked out for some of it because it is a medical/dental issue because of the vertigo. So that made me feel a little better about that issue. She also gave me a muscle relaxer to use before i am able to get to the dentist. She also wrote a prescription for physical therapy because apparently the muscles in my neck and shoulder aren't right either. She also advised to limit the chewing etc. So I guess good news about her not thinking I'm crazy.

Thanks so much

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Old 08-13-2009, 06:52 PM   #2
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

Hi---sorry to hear about your jaw..Whatever you do, don't try to slide your jaw backwards on purpose until your dentist sees you. If you do happen to lock before you see him, bear with me on this because it's worked everytime I"ve locked, ---you need to gag yourself pretty hard to hopefully recapture the disc so you can open again normally. Just a good tidbit of info.. To answer your question about being just a muscular tmj case in the beginning, yes it is possible that your muscles are so tense from clenching at night that you are causing them to spasm and pull your disc out of place, thus all the popping and clicking. When I started to have tmj problems 20 yrs. ago I was purely a muscular case, it was brought on by bad orthodonal work. If you let the problem go, you definitely can get damage and degeneration of your tmj joints, so find a good tmj specialist or see if your dentist can refer you to a good one. You may only need a nightguard or something like that. I doubt at this stage in the game you are a complex case, so keep researching and find a good doc. to go see. Take care--good luck! angel:

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:06 PM   #3
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

Good Evening,
I agree with JMitchell that you need to find a TMJ specialist. You'd be amazed at the array of symptoms TMJ can cause so don't discount any of your symptoms when you see your doctor and dentist. As far as asking for muscle relaxers I've found that doctors get their backs up when I ask for a particular type of medication. I would be sure that the doctor hears you when you tell him your symptoms. If his plan does not include some type of muscle relaxer I'd just review my symptoms again and ask point blank what you should do to address said symptoms.
Good luck with the doctors, remember be direct and factual with your symptoms.
Let us know how you make out.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:34 PM   #4
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

Thanks for your advice! I've have the same doctor for over 20 years and with the exception of asking for xanax for flying (which is only every couple of years) I have never gone in there asking for anything. I hate pills. So she'll know I'm in bad shape if I ask for something.

I go to the dental school in San Francisco - and i know they have a TMJ clinic run by faculity members - so I will ask them about that on tuesday. In the mean time should I try not to move my jaw? or any other tips you can think of for the next couple of days.

I'm in a bit of a jam though - I have great health insurance through my work, but i don't have any dental insurance - i read in in the health insurance manual under the TMJ section - that a splint and therapy are covered. I Know nobody will know the answers about insurance. I guess I'm just venting.

 
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

HI again--try to get the tmj treatment billed under mayofacial pain disorder, MPD----Sometimes insurance co's will accept that diagnosis and you can get some treatment covered. As for now, just baby your jaw, no gum, no chewy foods, no crunchy anything. Look at my old post where I posted a good list you can bring to a tmj specialist ...It's under silverwings name from the end of June...This gives you a good idea what tests should be run to see how bad your tmj is before treatment. Take care---J.

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Old 08-14-2009, 02:07 PM   #6
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

Sorry, you are having problems. My jaw has been doing the same thing. mine has where it feels like your jaw is coming forward and bumping your bottom teeth to your front teeth. I saw you are from the San Fransisco area? I live in the east bay, I just saw a doctor by the name of Dr. Goldman in Walnut Creek. I have only seen him once, but I hear he knows his stuff. If you want any contact info for him I would be glad to give it to you. Hope you start feeling back to your normal self soon

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Old 08-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #7
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Hi, one more thing I wanted to mention. If your regular dentist wants you to try anything, dont do it until you see a specialist. Your regular dentist could make it worse. My dentist gave me this thing to put in my mouth and it made things worse. My specialist was not happy with the dentist and told me to throw it away. Just a small tip.

Rebekah

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Old 08-14-2009, 07:10 PM   #8
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

bekahjan,

Did your dentist make any suggestion to you about what happened to your jaw or what he thought his plan of action may be.
I've read a lot of stuff on this board - but trying only to look at the posts originally written by people in the beginning stages. And taking in all the advice the veterans have for the new kids. Some of the posts by the veterans are kind of freaking me out though - especially the one who have been going through this for so long.

By the way I looked up the number to your new dentist and will keep it in mind when I start needing to look at my options for treatment. I'm still at the point where I think I'm going to wake up tomorrow and feel perfectly fine.
Thank for all you help everyone!

 
Old 08-14-2009, 11:54 PM   #9
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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

My general dentist just explained how my jaw works and then gave me a mouth guard to wear that made things worse, so I went to my orthodontist and she referred me to Dr. Steven Goldman in Walnut Creek who is a TMJ specialist.

I have only met with Dr. Goldman once, but he says my bite is messed up because of the dental work. I think my original problem is I had braces then my teeth shifted when they shouldn't have after a new crown. Dr. Goldman was not happy with the mouth guard my general dentist gave me. So be careful what advice you take, it should only be from a specialist.

I am going back next week, to hopefully hear our next step. We cut our appointment early last week because he wanted me to get a second opinion on if I need a root canal because he didnt trust my dentist and said it could make it worse. It is important to catch this early, if you let it go without help it could possibly go on for years.

I have been having serious problems only since the beginning of June. So I am still new to all of this. Will update on what Dr. Goldman says. He seems to know his stuff and listens to everything you have to say. It is expensive, but as far as I can tell no more expensive then everything else I am hearing.

The consultation from Dr. Goldman costs 475$. That is where I am at the moment.

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Re: Something is so wrong with my Jaw

Do not stress out your jaw...from what it sounds like it sounds muscular more than anything as well as your neck. Have some x-rays done. I had one done of the side of my head and saw that the vertebrae in my neck was completely messed up.

I feel like this is a mantra now but do not let anyone treat you unless they are a TMJ specialist, even if you have to move. A lot of dentists have no idea what they are getting themselves into and can make it worse. Orthodontists tend to be a little shady in my opinion because they are more concerned about aesthetics.

Research is your friend. Make note of EVERY symptom you suffer and see how they relate; that was the only way I was able to figure out what was wrong with me. You know yourself better than any doctor out there.

 
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Do not stress out your jaw...from what it sounds like it sounds muscular more than anything as well as your neck. Have some x-rays done. I had one done of the side of my head and saw that the vertebrae in my neck was completely messed up.

I feel like this is a mantra now but do not let anyone treat you unless they are a TMJ specialist, even if you have to move. A lot of dentists have no idea what they are getting themselves into and can make it worse. Orthodontists tend to be a little shady in my opinion because they are more concerned about aesthetics.

Research is your friend. Make note of EVERY symptom you suffer and see how they relate; that was the only way I was able to figure out what was wrong with me. You know yourself better than any doctor out there.
Hi all--I slightly disagree with velvett. because in my opinion, if you have the added benefit of your tmj specialist be an orthodontist as well, particularly a Functional Jaw Orthodontist, they will understand how to finish your case far better than a regular dds will. They are out there, we just need to find them. With that said, I think that there are far too many dentists out there that claim they can treat tmj but really have no idea what they are doing. Especially in severe cases where your bite has been changed prior to their treatment. I agree, research is your BEST friend. Going in prepared will give you the best outcome, especially weeding out the bad docs..

 
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