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Old 10-25-2009, 03:35 PM   #1
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doctor in Bethesda, MD

Has anyone heard of or been to Dr. Michael Singer in Bethesda, Maryland? He is part of Bethesda TMJ practice.

 
Old 10-27-2009, 05:47 PM   #2
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Re: doctor in Bethesda, MD

I live in the area and because I've had to see multiple specialists (at the referral of my local surgeon), I know of most of the D.C. area specialists. My local surgeon has never mentioned this doctor (he may be very good though), and given how few specialists there are, he has told us that he's given us the names of everyone he "trusts" in the area (I've wound up needing multiple surgeries in New York, but this D.C./Chevy Chase oral surgeon knows TMJ and has done a couple of procedures on me, so we value his opinion greatly when it comes to things like referals for specialists).

I don't know if this helps, but I see Dr. Mintz who's also in Bethesda, and I don't know what I would do without him. He is the sweetest man and a TMJ/splint guru. Every time I leave his office, I always think, "wow, I am so lucky to have Dr. Mintz!" Unfortunately, I'm a total surgical case, so even though I'm a rarity for Dr. Mintz in that he keeps pretty much all of his patients out of the OR, he's lead my team of doctors and still be of great significance to my care. He's always looking for new ways to get me out of pain and is a master to when it comes to splints. If you're looking for a good TMJ specialist, I couldn't suggest Dr. Mintz more.

 
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:35 AM   #3
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Re: doctor in Bethesda, MD

hi tmj225,

thanks for the referral for dr. mintz. are you in just one splint or 2 different ones for night and day? i am sorry to hear you had to have surgery. are you doing better? how is the pain? i live in the glen burnie area and have been seeing the doctor i asked about for 8 months with no resolution in symptoms at all so this is why i was asking about him. if you don't mind, who is the oral surgeon in the dc/chevy chase region you are referring to? i have been in pain for going on 5 years now and have seen so many dentists. i am so depressed and so desperate at this point to get the right help. i will look up dr. mintz and give him a call. thanks so much!

 
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I can answer your questions, which were directed to my daughter's post. She has a day splint and a night splint. The oral surgeon in DC and Chevy Chase is Dr. Clarence Lindquist. Hopefully, you'll obtain some relief soon. Good luck.

 
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RAKIND,

Thank you very much for replying. I too, developed my problem after wisdom tooth removal. I have been suffering for almost 5 years now trying to find the right help. So, thank your daughter for the name of Dr. Mintz and thank your for replying as well. I hope your daughter is doing better. If I could just feel like I am in good hands and have a good doctor on my side, I think my mind could rest a little. Thank you for your kindness.

 
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Please let me (us) how you do with Dr. Mintz or any other doctor. What treatments, interventions have you had so far?

 
Old 10-31-2009, 11:21 AM   #7
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hello rakind,

thank you. i will let you know what dr. mintz says as soon as i can get to see him. my problem is different than your daughter's though it started after my wisdom tooth removal. from everything i know and have learned since then, i believe that when my wisdom tooth was removed my jaw joint seated itself in a more anatomical position (more back and up) which essentially pulled my whole jaw backwards and ending up with a huge space all the way around and only sitting on my second molars (anterior open bite). the first tmj dentist i saw said that wisdom tooth removal cannot shift or change your bite and that i was having muscle spasms due to my open bite. well, my open bite didn't develop until after the wisdom tooth removal. i know my body and have always been very in tune with it. i know what happened. well, this dentist put me in a "locked" in splint, in what they call centric relation (which by the way, my jaw never wanted to be pushed or function that far back). this in turn, after a year in this splint, with no adjustments whatsoever, opened up my bite even further. so now i have a bigger open bite and more pain than i began with. since then i have been to many dentists who have only tried to help what they see and not try to figure out exactly what went wrong. i think that diagnosis is key to the beginning of fixing the problem. Just recently i explained my original problem to 2 dentists and they both said exactly what i thought has happened, which is that my condyle seated itself in a better position ( not a good thing though) after I lost that most posterior tooth. So, now I guess it is all about how to fix it and then how to fix my bite. i have been in about 13 different splints from different dentists but now i realize that all of them were just guessing and not putting two and two together to try to figure me out. bascially, my mri's are fairly normal with some slight displacement of my left disc, but nothing major they say. i have seen a couple of oral surgeons and they all have said that i don't need surgery. i need to find out where my bite is comfortable followed by braces. but up till this point, i have heard it all from all kinds of quacks. i was told my joints were deteriorating, probably from something like Lyme Disease so I went all over the place trying to gain a diagnosis only to find out that testing is just as controversial as tmj treatments are. i was told both my discs were out, something was eating at my bone, that i needed splints, surgery, braces, etc. my head has been spinning the past 5 years. but i am in a place now that i know what happened but i don't know who to go to to properly address the problem. hoping dr. mintz can shed some light. it is such a long history that it is hard for one doctor to follow everything i have been through. it has affected every muscle in my body at this point. i saw a dr robert gerwin in your area, bethesda, and he said i have widespread myofascial pain in all 4 quadrants of my body. i believe it is all due to my bite/jaw imbalance. my bite has changed radically from what i once had and my body is unable to adapt to it. i don't know how much research you did on doctors and theories but i am confused by the two camps that say, bring your jaw down and forward, and the other camp who seats your joints slightly back and up and say that is where all your teeth should fit together and where you should function. alot of the pankey trained dentists believe this. then i have been seeing dr in bethesda, who wants to shave all my back teeth down and says by getting my front teeth to meet again, the pain will go away and then he can build up my back teeth. this doesn't sit well with me. what if he constructs a bite that my muscles still don't like? i don't think this is the right way. though he is a member of the www.aaop.org like dr. mintz is. and he says he has been doing this for 20+ years. i have found vast differences in the doctors from this organization. i know there are lots of tough tests they have to pass to become a member of this org. they say there are only 250 of them nationwide but i feel that anyone can pass a test if they study hard enough. i have found that even though these dentist say they have been treating tmj disorders for years, doesn't mean they are any good or should be treating it. sorry this has gotten so long. i have a long story and alot of thoughts. i have done an extensive amount of research and reading being that i have been going through this for so long. most docs i see don't like that i know as much as i know. i have had several comments made to me about it. that just means to me that they are intimidated and probably not the doctor for me. my husband and i have spent 35k dollars in the past 5 years on various dentist, splints, chiropractors, massage therapists, etc. it is quite ridiculous that our insurance has covered only a portion of consultations and that is it. i have had a couple of splints that made all my muscle pain go away only to be completely ruined by a subsequent adjustment by the dentist, that didn't need to be done because my pain was gone. so i know it can happen and i have sort of been chasing that ever since. if i ever get another that is comfy and takes my pain away, i know better this time, not to let anyone touch it.

how is your daughter doing? can she go to school or work with the pain she is in? i haven't been able to do anything. this has completely taken over my life and my husband's. she doesn't have a bite issue does she? how long do they say before actual recovery might be? sorry for all the questions. i am interested in other's stories.

i have heard good things about dr. mintz from many people and doctors so i am hoping he can be of some help to me. are your daughter's splints comfortable to her and how often does she have to have them adjusted? have they ever caused her more pain where she had to go in and have them adjusted because they didn't feel quite right? i also have a hard time on medication. I don't tolerate many things well. I was put on a muscle relaxant which made me feel sooo much more depressed and drugged that i had to come off of it. it wasn't worth the small relief i was getting from the pain. and no one has ever prescribed anything other than 800 mg of motrin for me. i am not looking for a hard core pain reliever but motrin doesn't touch my pain and after 5 years i fear i am really damaging myself by continuing to take it. i have lost alot of friends over this because everyone has their judgments and wonders why i am not better if i have been to so many doctors. no one knows what the pain is like and how debilitating this is. i love those people who say "oh, tmj, i had that once, but it went away in a couple of weeks, my jaw was sore, etc." they have no idea. that is one reason i hate to tell people i have a tmj problem. i wanna say, "take your worse headache, facial pain, eye pain, neck pain, tooth pain, shoulder pain, sensitivity to light, dizziness, and back pain, and put them all together at one time, and that is how I feel almost everyday."

sorry i think i just needed to vent or something. well, i hope your daughter is on her way to recovery. i appreciate you listening and giving me the referral. thank your daughter for me as well. be well.

 
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Re: doctor in Bethesda, MD

HI---After reading your story I just had to wish you good luck and let you know that you certainly are not alone w-your pain issues. I've been in severe chronic muscular pain for almost 9mo. straight now. I've had tmjd for almost 20yrs, but it has been almost unbearable since last winter when my old dentist damaged my joints, and left me almost incapacitated with no proper splint to wear. I've been with a new dentist for almost 4 mo. now and it has been an uphill battle. I totally understand your frustration, pain levels, and I truly wish you all the best of health, happiness, and hope for the future with your new doctors. Tmjd is the most debilitating, painful, mistreated, misdiagnosed dysfunction in my opinion that the human body can develop. We as patients need to be our own advocates, and stay on top of cutting edge new technology for our own sakes, and keep talking and researching amongst ourselves. I believe this is the only way we can truly find a good doctor, get well, and be able to go on and live a normal life. I will pray for you and hope that you find a great dentist very soon. Take care, J.

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Old 10-31-2009, 02:34 PM   #9
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hi jmitchell,

thank you for your response and encouragement. i have been following this forum for a couple of years now but never posted till recently. i have followed some of your posts. i am sorry you are in this position as well. you are right. it is one of the most frustrating conditions to have because there is no one size fits all treatment. What helps one person doesn't help the next. So we spend thousands of dollars seeking different dentists in hopes that this will be THE ONE. It is maddening, depressing, exhausting, scary, and so many other emotions. The pain is bad enough to deal with but then throw in the emotional part of dealing with chronic pain, the out of pocket costs, and searching all over for the next dentist to see. i have become so cynical when it comes to the medical profession. i always remain hopeful when i go to a new consult but in the back of my mind i am thinking "ok what is this one going to tell me that i already don't know or what is he going to try to convince me of. i'm not an idiot and i do think most of the tmj docs would like their patients to be. the one i have been seeing for 8 months has told me that i have read too much and that most of what i have read does not apply to my situation (i.e. never do phase 2 before you are comfortable in phase 1). and he has been doing this for 20 years and a prosthodontist for 30 years. i had one doc tell me i have made too much of a career of trying to get better. can you believe that one? then i love the ones who say your bite has nothing to do with tmj but it is what you do with what you have (clenching, grinding, etc.) not true. when your bite is altered from what you were used to fo 35 years, there is only a certain amount of adaptation that the body can maintain. and with my bite changes my body doesn't like this new bite. it is completely lopsided and i only hit on my two back molars and one canine. the other side of my mouth feels completely collapsed. i would like to hit one of these tmj docs in the jaw with a bat and tell them to go home and take some motrin and not focus on it so much. i have also been told that, that i am too focused on this. well, if i wasn't in pain 24/7 i wouldn't be focused on it. and if i wasn't in pain i certainly wouldn't be in the dentist office every week. i would be out living my life.

i understand what you are going through too. it is hard, especially because one feel so alone and that doctors don't really care. i think at this point there are many who just wanted to make a their money off of me and knew they couldn't help me but told me they could. i would much rather be told, "i don't know, but i will try my best." i always feel like everyone just wants my money at this point because they can get away with charging astronomical fees because they know we are in pain and we will pay it. i have been to alot of consults though that i didn't choose that person to try to help me for one reason or another.

do you feel you are improving even slightly? i have had many different ways and splints trying to help me. I have been pulled forward, pushed backward, locked in, etc. i have had some of the most horrible feeling splints. i know what a good one should feel like because i have had two in the past. if i have learned one thing through this, and like you stated, we have to be our own advocates, we have to speak up and stand up for ourselves and if the dr. doesn't like it than they are not the one for us. we are the expert in our own pain, not them.

thank you for wishing me well. i wish you all the best too. we have to stick together. i never wanted to join a group before because i thought it would keep me even more focused and depressed about the problem but it is a nice place to vent and to know that i am not alone. nice to chat with you. all the best to you.

 
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hi again jmitchell,

i noticed you are in Illinois. There was a lady on her a while back. Her daughter was successfully treated by a guy named Dr. Lewis Klapper in Lake Bluff. You may have read some of her posts. Mosmom? Have you heard of this doctor and are you close to Lake Bluff? Just a thought. I am always looking for the success stories and the doctors who made it happen.

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hi again jmitchell,

i noticed you are in Illinois. There was a lady on her a while back. Her daughter was successfully treated by a guy named Dr. Lewis Klapper in Lake Bluff. You may have read some of her posts. Mosmom? Have you heard of this doctor and are you close to Lake Bluff? Just a thought. I am always looking for the success stories and the doctors who made it happen.
Hi again..Thanks for the kind words. I did look into Dr. Klapper thoroughly, and read all of Mosmom's posts, even contacted her, but in the end, I decided not to go that route. As far as my new doctor, I've been in a repositional splint bringing my jaw slightly forward, for about 4mo. now. In my case, I got tmd from braces being done wrong on me in highschool, I should have been in expanders, but was put in braces incorrectly. During my treatment the spasms started. I also had my wisdom teeth extracted before braces. I've been told that also having my tonsils removed, and an old whiplash injury just added more fuel to the fire, so to speak adding more trauma to the tmj's. So, 20yrs. later, after being w-a dentist for 10yrs. that didn't know what he was doing, my discs are shot, I have bone on bone rubbing on the left, and I'm in severe chronic muscular pain that is relentless at times. The thing that is overwhelming and kind of depressing is that when I was put in the splint 4 mo. ago, (being finally put in the right place after so many yrs. ), I felt like I had whiplash all over again...I just had postural x-rays done on Mon., to see if the PT I've been doing is helping w-the splint, and my neck is straighter a bit, so I'm improving on that angle, but still have the muscular issues big time. I can tell that my dentist is good at adjusting, because if you can believe this, there was no adjustment made when I first received it. THat was completely shocking to me. I'm extremely sensitive to wrong adjustments, almost hyper sensitive, and in the 4mo. of wearing this thing I've only had 2 adjustments done on it. It's a lower full arch acrylic splint. I feel from all the research I've done the last 8 and a half mo. , and talking to people who have had success stories, the type of tmjd specialists that know the most are dentists that belong to the ICCMO, also, belong to the American Academy of orofacial and craniofacial pain associations, and that are Functional Jaw Orthodontists as well as neuromuscular dentists. They believe in the whole down and forward mandible position, and not making any changes to the bite until phase 2, period. That is my opinion, i'm sure people will disagree with me, but I truly believe that for me, these are the people that I trust the most. When I had braces done in my teens, they should have had me in expanders, then maybe braces afterwards, but what they did was totally narrow my palate, and close my bite so tightly and narrow that my facial structure completely changed, not for the better either...Wow, if I would have known then what I know now, I would not be in the shape that I'm in, I guarantee you that. I'm not going down without a fight , and I"m not going to stop researching and talking to people, getting second opinions, until I see major positive results in my health. I have to for my family's sake. This is affecting my kids lives dramatically, as well as my husband's. I can't give up hope.
What I do hope for the future is all the quack so called tmj specialists, (mind you that tmj specialist is a self-proclaimed title, not an earned title like an MD"s license) will be held accountable by someone who finally takes a stand and recognizes that they are stealing people's life savings, lying to us, and telling us that they can help, when all they are doing is draining us dry and hurting us because of their greed. I"m always saying that they all have a special front row seat in Hell. At least my old one does, along w-my orthodontist. LOL. It's called Charma people, get a clue.
Anyways, I wish you the best, if you ever need to vent, I'm here.
Some day we will all look back on this and know that we are better people because of this whole ordeal, that we've learned patience, tolerance, and compassion on a grand scale, and figured out that dirty laundry and dishes mean nothing, spending time w-the family means everything. I truly believe we will all get through this. (but wow, what a lesson, I didn't sign up for this one. lol) Later, J.

 
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hello jmitchell,

i can relate to part of your story. i too, had braces done incorrectly in my teenage years. from what i understand, back then, they didn't take into account that the muscle, joints, and teeth need to work in harmony with one another. there are orthodontists nowadays that take that into account when planning ortho. i too, needed a palatal expander but i may have assisted in my own demise because i refused to wear it and made them take it out. i couldn't stand it another day. i had the little key and needed to get on the roof of my mouth and turn it twice a day. i couldn't eat with it or talk. it was awful, but i was also a teenager. so they put braces on me anyway which they shouldn't have since i did not follow through with the palatal expander. I also had a car accident that i hit the left side of my face really hard on a dashboard and was told that slowed the growth of that side of my face and joints. you can see my face is asymetrical. looking back, i had headaches all through my 20's and up till this all happened and i believe it was all due to my bite. they began after i got my braces off but i never correlated the two till all this happened.
I am SOOOOOO sensitive to splint adjustments that is is ridiculous. That is either part of the reason I can't get well or that it is really in the way the dr.'s i have been seeing are adjusting them. if i have a high spot anywhere it sets off my muscle pain and i end up back in the office only to end up with a high spot somewhere else. alot of times it doesn't feel right when i leave but i am hoping it will settle in but it never does, so i am back in the office, paying all over again. i have learned now, that i am going to sit there in the waiting room from now on and make sure it feels right before i leave. because once you go, you can't blame it on their adjustments. they mostly say, well, your jaw moved. that is how they can keep charging me. they don't have to take any responsibility for their poor adjusting skills. if my splints are the least bit bumpy i know i am trouble. they say i am occlusal sensitve or an oral surgeon called it occlusal positive. whatever it is called, it stinks. and i just would like them to have to take responsibility for something. like you said, charma baby. it'll come back to them one day. at least i can only hope.
what did your dentist of 10 yrs. do to destroy your joints?
i know, this has been really hard on my husband and me. we have a strong marriage but it has still taken its toll. after 5 years how can it not. i am like you, i will keep fighting even though i have to admit there are some days i wish i could just disappear from all of this. i have been through some hard stuff in my life but this is by far the worse.
yes, having your tonsils removed might have worsened it because they had to keep you open, and whiplash, well that didn't help either. i can relate to your whiplash feeling. i have that alot. plus last year i actually had a massage therapist over stretch my neck and i was in severe muscle spasm for 4 months straight. i cannot tolerate being stretched at all. i rebound and my muscles tighten back up even more than they were. i had an mri of my neck because i thought he did some damage but thankfully it was only muscle spasm but the worse in the world. i had headaches up the back of my neck everyday and my neck, well, i basically couldn't move it for months. no one will ever stretch me again that is for sure. i have learned what my body can and cannot tolerate through all of this.
thankfully i don't have any kids right now. i can't imagine what they must be feeling and how they wish they could help you. hang in there. i know it is hard. i deal with chronic muscle spasm somewhere, everyday. my jaw feels like it is being pulled in every direction and there is no place for it to rest. all this does is set off every other muscle. it is like the domino effect. so i understand what you are going through.
does your doc belong to one or all of those organizations? i will have to look up the iccmo. i haven't heard of that one.
you're right, dirty dishes and laundry mean nothing. spending time with family is everything. i just wish we could sit and enjoy life being pain free. we will one day but we have to keep plugging along and fighting for ourselves. every now and then when i have a few pain free hours i think to myself, gosh, is this what most the world feels like. gosh, what i couldn't accomplish if i felt this way alot more often. i certainly appreciate every one of those moments more than i ever would have. i am here anytime you want to talk or vent too. i wish you well j. take care.

 
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hello jmitchell,

i can relate to part of your story. i too, had braces done incorrectly in my teenage years. from what i understand, back then, they didn't take into account that the muscle, joints, and teeth need to work in harmony with one another. there are orthodontists nowadays that take that into account when planning ortho. i too, needed a palatal expander but i may have assisted in my own demise because i refused to wear it and made them take it out. i couldn't stand it another day. i had the little key and needed to get on the roof of my mouth and turn it twice a day. i couldn't eat with it or talk. it was awful, but i was also a teenager. so they put braces on me anyway which they shouldn't have since i did not follow through with the palatal expander. I also had a car accident that i hit the left side of my face really hard on a dashboard and was told that slowed the growth of that side of my face and joints. you can see my face is asymetrical. looking back, i had headaches all through my 20's and up till this all happened and i believe it was all due to my bite. they began after i got my braces off but i never correlated the two till all this happened.
I am SOOOOOO sensitive to splint adjustments that is is ridiculous. That is either part of the reason I can't get well or that it is really in the way the dr.'s i have been seeing are adjusting them. if i have a high spot anywhere it sets off my muscle pain and i end up back in the office only to end up with a high spot somewhere else. alot of times it doesn't feel right when i leave but i am hoping it will settle in but it never does, so i am back in the office, paying all over again. i have learned now, that i am going to sit there in the waiting room from now on and make sure it feels right before i leave. because once you go, you can't blame it on their adjustments. they mostly say, well, your jaw moved. that is how they can keep charging me. they don't have to take any responsibility for their poor adjusting skills. if my splints are the least bit bumpy i know i am trouble. they say i am occlusal sensitve or an oral surgeon called it occlusal positive. whatever it is called, it stinks. and i just would like them to have to take responsibility for something. like you said, charma baby. it'll come back to them one day. at least i can only hope.
what did your dentist of 10 yrs. do to destroy your joints?
i know, this has been really hard on my husband and me. we have a strong marriage but it has still taken its toll. after 5 years how can it not. i am like you, i will keep fighting even though i have to admit there are some days i wish i could just disappear from all of this. i have been through some hard stuff in my life but this is by far the worse.
yes, having your tonsils removed might have worsened it because they had to keep you open, and whiplash, well that didn't help either. i can relate to your whiplash feeling. i have that alot. plus last year i actually had a massage therapist over stretch my neck and i was in severe muscle spasm for 4 months straight. i cannot tolerate being stretched at all. i rebound and my muscles tighten back up even more than they were. i had an mri of my neck because i thought he did some damage but thankfully it was only muscle spasm but the worse in the world. i had headaches up the back of my neck everyday and my neck, well, i basically couldn't move it for months. no one will ever stretch me again that is for sure. i have learned what my body can and cannot tolerate through all of this.
thankfully i don't have any kids right now. i can't imagine what they must be feeling and how they wish they could help you. hang in there. i know it is hard. i deal with chronic muscle spasm somewhere, everyday. my jaw feels like it is being pulled in every direction and there is no place for it to rest. all this does is set off every other muscle. it is like the domino effect. so i understand what you are going through.
does your doc belong to one or all of those organizations? i will have to look up the iccmo. i haven't heard of that one.
you're right, dirty dishes and laundry mean nothing. spending time with family is everything. i just wish we could sit and enjoy life being pain free. we will one day but we have to keep plugging along and fighting for ourselves. every now and then when i have a few pain free hours i think to myself, gosh, is this what most the world feels like. gosh, what i couldn't accomplish if i felt this way alot more often. i certainly appreciate every one of those moments more than i ever would have. i am here anytime you want to talk or vent too. i wish you well j. take care.
Good Morning--
I hear what you are saying about being sensitive to high's and lows of a splint. The muscle issues and the way you describe them are almost identical to me sometimes. Like I said though, my doctor's splint was almost 95% correctly made and adjusted when I received it, in my opinion. That was a first for me in the 20yrs. I've had this dysfunction. I truly believe that if you could find an excellent doctor that does splints the right way you should be able to tolerate them and be on the road to recovery, that is my wish for you. Finding the dentist is 99% of the battle, though. That's what is so maddening to us. I feel your frustration.
To answer your question about my doctor belonging to all of those associations, and the ICCMO, yes he does. I am so jaded about this whole ordeal and tmjd doctors in general, even after all the research I've done, I"m still skeptical and watching my progress and treatment like a hawk. They know this too, everytime I go in I have tons of questions for them, and I think I may be driving them nuts, but I really don't care. THat's what I paid the big bucks for. They'll have to deal with it. LOL. I"m always joking and telling my husband that these tmj docs should try to wear these repositional honking splints for a few hours and see how uncomfortable and torturous (sp) they are...maybe they would get a clue as to why we are so frustrated. Over the last 9mo. I've talked with extremely sincere tmj docs that I didn't end up going with because of their treatment styles, and talked with very rude tmj docs w-the all knowing "God Complex" attitudes that are intolerable to me, that I agreed with how they were treating tmjd...You just need to use your gut, and if you find someone that does the right tests, has the right credentials, who cares about the attitude, right? as long as they fix the problem. Ok, I wrote a book.....Talk soon,,,,,J

 
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