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tmrots 04-16-2011 06:55 AM

ear pain
 
Does your ear hurt more when your sinuses act up with this TMJ disorder? I went to the doctor with a throat, sinus thing and was certain I had an ear infection, but did not. When my sinuses act up the jaw, ear thing is worse. Does anyone else get this too?

MountainReader 04-16-2011 05:17 PM

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When my upper respiratory issues act up, it throws things out of whack for me. With my TMJ, it worsens the muscle spasms causing more ear pain for me that can get quite severe at times. My ENT has given me a standing prescription for a muscle relaxant and a tri-cyclic antidepressant (very low dose). Both of these are intended to help my muscles relax some. They leave it up to me to to figure out which will help more at the time. A couple months ago, I still went back to my ENT because I could have sworn the pain was from an infection it hurt so much. Turns out that it was just the muscle spasms. It is hard to tell what is causing the pain when it is so bad.

Also, sinus pain has a traditional symptom of jaw/teeth pain even for those who don't have TMJ. I've had that problem for about 15 years and only had TMJ for about 2 years.

tmrots 04-17-2011 05:07 AM

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Thank you for your help. This explains alot. I have ear pain quite often, and always know it's form the TMJD but this week has been really bad. I figured the sinuses added to it. This too shall pass, right?

MountainReader 04-17-2011 01:46 PM

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For me the ear pain currently comes and goes periodically. I'll have a really bad week, then months that are ok. I've had chronic ear stuffiness for almost 2 years now in my right ear that is directly attributed to my TMJ.

I'll tell you that the best thing that helped me through this was visiting a PT who has special training. She works my neck and does oral trigger point releases. It usually takes repeated visits, but when my muscles finally loosen and spasm less some the pain is significantly better.

My problem lies in that my muscles are constantly tight. I just can't afford to continually visit my PT or massage therapist and my muscles tighten right back up.

To make matters worse, I found out I have hypermobile joints. I attribute my TMJ and a shoulder issue to this. When my TMJ makes my facial and neck muscles spasm, it travels down to my shoulder. When my shoulder gets worse, it ends up triggering my TMJ ear pain. It can be a viscious cycle at times.

Fortunately, I haven't had as many bad flares since I've had my repositioning splint for a while, but I still have periods of spasms that drive me nuts. When the ear pain is bad, it keeps me from sleeping which makes things worse.

My TMJ specialist wants me to start with Phase II and I'm really anxious to start since I know it will take a couple years, but I just don't see being able to afford it anytime in the forseeable future. :( Right now, I'm just "stuck" where I'm at.

As for the sinuses, I used to get about 4 infections a year that lasted about 8 weeks each, with a few rounds of antibiotics. I've been receiving immunotherapy shots for years and I'm down to about 1 infection a year. :D Huge difference.

Are you using a neti pot along with your other treatments for the sinus problems?

tmrots 04-17-2011 02:13 PM

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[QUOTE=MountainReader;4732981]For me the ear pain currently comes and goes periodically. I'll have a really bad week, then months that are ok. I've had chronic ear stuffiness for almost 2 years now in my right ear that is directly attributed to my TMJ.

I'll tell you that the best thing that helped me through this was visiting a PT who has special training. She works my neck and does oral trigger point releases. It usually takes repeated visits, but when my muscles finally loosen and spasm less some the pain is significantly better.

My problem lies in that my muscles are constantly tight. I just can't afford to continually visit my PT or massage therapist and my muscles tighten right back up.

To make matters worse, I found out I have hypermobile joints. I attribute my TMJ and a shoulder issue to this. When my TMJ makes my facial and neck muscles spasm, it travels down to my shoulder. When my shoulder gets worse, it ends up triggering my TMJ ear pain. It can be a viscious cycle at times.

Fortunately, I haven't had as many bad flares since I've had my repositioning splint for a while, but I still have periods of spasms that drive me nuts. When the ear pain is bad, it keeps me from sleeping which makes things worse.

My TMJ specialist wants me to start with Phase II and I'm really anxious to start since I know it will take a couple years, but I just don't see being able to afford it anytime in the forseeable future. :( Right now, I'm just "stuck" where I'm at.

As for the sinuses, I used to get about 4 infections a year that lasted about 8 weeks each, with a few rounds of antibiotics. I've been receiving immunotherapy shots for years and I'm down to about 1 infection a year. :D Huge difference.

Are you using a neti pot along with your other treatments for the sinus problems?[/QUOTE]
I used to use the neti pot when I had several infections one year and then got lazy. I need to start again. Sounds like you have a rough time too. I would consider any treatments, but sadly my insurance has a $30 copay for everything and it is too expensive for me right now to do anything. I saw a TMJ specialist and would do work on me for $6500, so I just deal. Even my cheek muscle is sore and swollen (on both sides).

Thanks for the help.

Single Cell 04-18-2011 08:07 AM

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I'm currently dealing with ear issues thanks to a sinus infection. For the last 3.5 weeks, the sinus infection caused my TMJ to go extra haywire, and I've not been able to open my mouth very wide, and it's been soft/liquid diet for me. My left joint is the one that is locked up, and my left ear is driving me bonkers.

It's constantly itching, and mildly painful. I've been netti-potting; the first time I did it, my ears cracked and popped and I had immediate relief, but it doesn't seem to be as effective on my ear issue after a few weeks of this....

tmrots 04-18-2011 08:13 AM

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I did the neti last week and couldnt' believe how clogged up I was. I wondered if the solution was ever going to come out! It helped for the moment, but was short lived. I am on day 3 of my antibiotic and still not feeling great. Sinuses still blocked and the ear, temple, jaw pain is just as bad as ever. It's getting old.....

Single Cell 04-18-2011 08:25 AM

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[QUOTE=tmrots;4733558]I did the neti last week and couldnt' believe how clogged up I was. I wondered if the solution was ever going to come out! It helped for the moment, but was short lived. I am on day 3 of my antibiotic and still not feeling great. Sinuses still blocked and the ear, temple, jaw pain is just as bad as ever. It's getting old.....[/QUOTE]


Lol, yeah this is certainly getting old. I want to just take a bottle brush and shove it into my ear to scratch it. I had to take my ambien last night just to get a little sleep, it was itching so intensely.

PatientZero 04-18-2011 09:52 PM

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I've had sinus problems all my life because I have a very bad deviated septum. I use to gets tons of sinus infections. My sinus doc recommended the following.

First drink lots of water, stay away from dairy, alcohol and allergy medications because they tend to make sinuses worse because they stuff you up and dry up mucus.

Buy a saline nasal wash. Buy sudafed. Buy Afrin. Buy chloraseptic Spray.

Yes clogged sinuses make TMJD Worse. So at the first sign of nasal congestion take sudafed, use the saline nasal wash. If things are getting worse use Afrin. Most people that get lots of sinus infections wait to long before they treat the nasal congestion.

~~~
Tom

tmrots 04-19-2011 04:22 AM

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Thanks for the help. I am one who waits too long, I hate any meds and have tried the antihistamine for the sneezing, itchy eyes, but now understand I should avoid that and go with the decongestants. I picked up some saline spray too, so will get going on that as well. Hope you all have relief too!

saltyk9 04-19-2011 08:26 AM

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I'm currently struggling with allergies. Had them come a little over a week ago. They were so bad that I had to call in sick from work. Usually, my ear is always stuffed up but I can pop it no problem and do so hundreds of times a day. With the allergies, it is still stuffed up only I haven't been able to pop it in a week.


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