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Old 02-07-2013, 05:52 AM   #1
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Do you have to do both?

I have a very badly aligned atlas and therefore lots of spinal issues too. What I'd like to ask anyone is this, my jaw is also very misaligned, no bite at all now, do I need to address the neck first, the jaw first or do both treatments need to be done together?
I have started Nucca upper cervical with no joy as yet, and wondered if the jaw issues are what is stopping it helping. Any thoughts? Or could I just be in so much spasm from what appears to be severe cervical dystonia that are pulling the adjustments back out as I cannot hold them. I am desperate and don't know where else I can turn. Thanks if you can advise.

 
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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Re: Do you have to do both?

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You can do a combination to get faster results. your misalignment will definitely affect your jaw and the alignment.

Do you also suffer from shoulder discomfort or have any other issues, normally misalignment can be referred from another area. Do you have any idea how yours started or is it an inherent problem?

Normally upper neck issues mean that people have lower back problems as well. it can even be as low down as the hips. If you can try and get a full body assessment to check alignment. Is one hip higher than the other, is one part of your body stiffer than the other.

Taking a more holistic view as this will give you a better idea on what else to work on. Do some neck and shoulder stretches but do it gently and carefully. You can also massage on your jaw muscles to help your jaw relax and hopefully improve the alignment.

If need be go to a physio and see if they can help. By working on relaxing the muscles it will help release the tension and your frame will stop twisting. Once it relaxes into a better natural position your other symptoms like neck pain and TMJ will improve.

Do work with a medical professional and be careful not to force anything.

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:25 AM   #3
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Re: Do you have to do both?

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You can do a combination to get faster results. your misalignment will definitely affect your jaw and the alignment.

Do you also suffer from shoulder discomfort or have any other issues, normally misalignment can be referred from another area. Do you have any idea how yours started or is it an inherent problem?

Normally upper neck issues mean that people have lower back problems as well. it can even be as low down as the hips. If you can try and get a full body assessment to check alignment. Is one hip higher than the other, is one part of your body stiffer than the other.

Taking a more holistic view as this will give you a better idea on what else to work on. Do some neck and shoulder stretches but do it gently and carefully. You can also massage on your jaw muscles to help your jaw relax and hopefully improve the alignment.

If need be go to a physio and see if they can help. By working on relaxing the muscles it will help release the tension and your frame will stop twisting. Once it relaxes into a better natural position your other symptoms like neck pain and TMJ will improve.

Do work with a medical professional and be careful not to force anything.

Thanks for your reply. I am a very complex, neurological muscular mess. This began with rough dental work losing my jaw alignment completely. I had no tmj issues at all prior. Then after months of no joy finding a cause and no one offering splint therapy as they said I didn't need it, even though I kept telling them I did, I went to an osteopath who advertised jaw and cranial work.
On examining me he saw a very high shoulder and short leg and proceeded to adjust my pelvis. This made my jaw far worse and pulled my head over my high shoulder more. He said it would all be ok when he got up to my neck to adjust. I was weary but he assured me it was completely safe.
Big mistake. Instant severe spasm in neck, more severe head pulling over, jaw completely twisted. After finding no help from specialists, I returned to him as he said he didn't feel it was permanent and was sure he could help me out of it. He adjusted my pelvis again and my body went nuts. Spine and cervical curve reversed., uneven collar bones as one shoulder way higher, whole body and head twisted and my head dropped forward leaving me with a twisted neck, twisted jaw, twisted pelvis and no hope.
So you see, I now know I had a descending problem and he has also created an ascending one. I dont know where to start, nucca, dentist, body worker all of them, indeed is it worth even trying? He messed me up way too much.
I should have found this forum first and this mess needn't have happened. But thanks for trying, I dont see how this can ever reverse, can the body/brain heal from so much damage??

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:18 PM   #4
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Re: Do you have to do both?

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Looking at your post the symptoms that you describe with your difference in shoulder height and leg length and the problems that you had with the adjustment made by the osteo confirms my suspicion that your body frame will not settle into its correct shape through manipulation on its own.

Neck adjustments and body adjustments can work if body or the muscles are relaxed enough to allow the frame to settle in its correct shape.

The body has remarkable capability to heal itself and the correction that can happen with the correct treatment and the correct care works wonders. The spasms you experienced is your body trying to protect itself from what it perceives as an injury because it is happening so fast and with force.

This is where something like yoga or pilates and stretching works with the muscles to relax them and to get them stretched and in a normal position with a better range of motion.

If you want a fast cheat to see the results you can get go and have a hot bath and get a selection of stretches that will cover all parts of your body. Do each stretch for 20 - 30 seconds but do it gently and dont force it.

Repeat 2 - 3 times a week and let me know how things change.

 
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