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Old 10-21-2008, 07:09 AM   #1
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i need an ovulation guru

i'm back in the game, finishing up af now, starting to try again this cycle and have been having issues for the past few months (as i'm sure most of you know of, or can find on this portion of this website.) but i'm starting to think a little more deeply in the whole "ovulation process" and have a few questions.

1. i've only been going by my cm every month. but even so, is that even accurate? i mean, everything that happens to us while ttc can be explained by something else, could ewcm mean something else too? and could it be possible that i haven't been ovulating and the cm means something else?

2. do your hormones change during ovulation, or a few days thereafter? (which could explain some of the nausea i've been having for the past few months.)

3. by the time you see your ewcm, does that mean you are supposed to bd right then and there? does that mean you have already ovulated and missed your chance or that's just like the "prime time" to have bms?


thanks in advance, any other f.a.q.'s about ovulation would be a big help. i'm really trying to smarten myself up here, without spending money (of course.) i'm a tight-wad haha

 
Old 10-21-2008, 08:49 AM   #2
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Re: i need an ovulation guru

Hey Cookie,

I'm no super pro or anything but will try to answer what I've come to understand as I've done a lot fo research as of late. My answers I'll bold so it will be asier to read through..

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i'm back in the game, finishing up af now, starting to try again this cycle and have been having issues for the past few months (as i'm sure most of you know of, or can find on this portion of this website.) but i'm starting to think a little more deeply in the whole "ovulation process" and have a few questions.

1. i've only been going by my cm every month. but even so, is that even accurate? i mean, everything that happens to us while ttc can be explained by something else, could ewcm mean something else too? and could it be possible that i haven't been ovulating and the cm means something else?
I'm pretty sure EWCM means that you're in your fertile window, so, you may not necessarily be Oing at the time you see EWCM. Plus, EWCM according to tcoyf can happen at random times in ones cycle and shouldn't be a main predictor. I don't know if other things can cause it too, I'm sure this is a possibility though. Maybe someone else can answer this better..

2. do your hormones change during ovulation, or a few days thereafter? (which could explain some of the nausea i've been having for the past few months.)
Yes they do! You get an LH surge I think it is just prior to O, then progesterone kicks in.. There's quite a few hormones that come into play and if there's too much or too little of one, it can cause issues.. Sometimes it may just be a matter of the estrogen being dominating over the progesterone, so I've read..

3. by the time you see your ewcm, does that mean you are supposed to bd right then and there? does that mean you have already ovulated and missed your chance or that's just like the "prime time" to have bms?
I think it just means it's prime time. It's best to use other methods like charting your BBT and checking your CP, I know it doesn't sound all too grand but I've started doing this as just relying on one thing alone doesn't seem to be accurate enough. Best thing to figure out when you are truely ovulating is to chart your BBT. Just get a regular thermometer and check your temp every morning right when you wake up. Look up online various sites will allow you to chart and it's fairly easy. They can even take a fairly well educated guess when you O'd or approximately when you will. I think it's kind of neat!


thanks in advance, any other f.a.q.'s about ovulation would be a big help. i'm really trying to smarten myself up here, without spending money (of course.) i'm a tight-wad haha
Tight-wad's unite! We definately have to be like long lost sisters or something haha I'm such a stinge with money too.
I'm looking up a lot as I'm trying to understand this all better. I don't know half of what's going on though. All I've mentionned above is from what I've come to understand so if any of it is wrong, anyone please correct me!

Good luck cookie!!!!!!

 
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:20 PM   #3
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Re: i need an ovulation guru

Hi guys,

Thaele, you can tell both of us have read the same book ha ha. I would have answered exactly the same. The only little thing I would add, is about ewcm if it shows for a couple of days, I think it's a pretty strong indicator of impending O, I "think" if it shows any other time, it's only like for a day or something. "I think"

Cookie, I don't think ewcm appears as a result of anything else i.e. medications, stress or anything else like that, I think things like yeast infections can sometimes mask it, but you'd know if you had one of them!!

I wish I was an ovulation guru! I'm on CD13 now and still no smiley face on my opk and I don't have much CM either, so not sure what's going on. It's funny, DH even asked me had I got my smiley face yet!

One thing is for sure, my own face isn't smiley at the moment, I just developed a nasty cold sore today, so that should make for interesting bd'ing tomorrow. No kissing and bag over my head ha ha!! xx

 
Old 10-21-2008, 12:32 PM   #4
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Re: i need an ovulation guru

thank you to my usual repliers for always doing your bests to answer my many, many questions


see, the thing that always confuses me, is i have "daily cm." or at least that's what i call it. i mean, its very light, mainly just when i wipe. i've had that as long as i can remember. but i can tell when i'm getting towards my ovulation time, and i do notice a difference in quanity and "texture" for lack of a better term.

dh doesnt want to do any of the bbt'ing or anything like that. he just wants to do it "the old school way." his theory is, they didn't have this technology 100 years ago and people still got pg. haha i love his sense of humor (note the sarcasm.) anyways, we'll give it a whirl this month and next month, and shoot for the specialist if we're not successful by the end of january's cycle.

 
Old 10-21-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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haha FH would think the same but I decided to be a bit more proactive to find out if I am even in fact O'ing.. so far, seems like I'm not. Or, I am.. and.. what I'm doing just isn't working and I can't tell one way or the other. I even went so far as getting FH on multi vitamins!!! At first he was saying "you're going to have to bring it to me all the time because I'll forgoet".. I was annoyed by that because it's just laziness talking.. but, I thought fine, so long as you're taking them. Well, I bring it to him and he's already taken it!! Shocking to say the least.

You're probably better off not charting and whatnot because I have to tell you.. you end up with even more questions in the end. I'm only saying that because I'm frustrated, it does work for others. I'm wanting to try the cough syrup thing though. I don't think I ever have nearly enough EWCM.. if ever.. I'm hoping maybe this will help that. Though, if I'm not Oing, that would explain the lack in CM too and there won't ever be enough .

Good luck Cookie!! It'll be about time you get your BFP. Maybe we can get them at the same time That'd be nice!

 
Old 10-21-2008, 01:19 PM   #6
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Good luck Cookie!! It'll be about time you get your BFP. Maybe we can get them at the same time That'd be nice!
..you know, since we're all seperated at birth and all good luck to you too. i think we're all beyond confused at this point. at least we have eachother!

(thank god for this forum!!!!)

 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:23 PM   #7
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..you know, since we're all seperated at birth and all good luck to you too. i think we're all beyond confused at this point. at least we have eachother!

(thank god for this forum!!!!)
Ditto!!!!!

 
Old 10-27-2008, 07:20 AM   #8
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Re: i need an ovulation guru

Heya, Cookie-

I think I have read the same book as the other two ladies. It is the fertility _bible_ as far as I am concerned. Really cheap copies can be obtained online. I swear by my much-loved paperback!

Also, I highly recommend tracking your BBT online.
The site that I use has a 20-part/20-day tutorial which really helps to break down what is happening in our bodies (and when!) so it is easier to figure out ovulation and identify possible fertility issues.
My on-line chart lets me not only track temps, but CM, OPK results, BDing, and as many "symptoms" as I want to monitor. I myself started to keep track of breast tenderness, increased sex drive and nipple sensitivity (sorry if TMI!:P) and found that over a series of months patterns emerged that give me an early indication that I am about to "O". Earlier indication means more scheduled BDing in that fertile window (and not exhausting one's spouse by starting toooo soon ).

As a side note,
I like using the tiny, little OPK strips that come in a pack of twenty.
Watching the positive line "Fade in" gives me another head's up that "O" is approaching.
I can also POAS several times a day without burning a hole in my pocket.
I then use the more expensive smiley face to confirm results

Whew!
I just threw a lot of information at ya,
I hope at least some of it helps...

Best of luck and stickybean wishes!
~Shannon

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