Do a search for Dr. Mercola to see what he says about vaccines. My kids, now 28, 26, 20 and 19 didn't get vaccinated. I had letters on file at school stating that it was due to my personal beliefs that they should not be vaccinated and it worked. There is a lot of information about the stuff big pharmaceutical companies are shoving down our throats...and into our children. My kids were much healthier than anyone else's kids I know. Never missed school, never had the 'normal' snotty noses, etc.
I almost died from the DTP vaccination as a baby. I ended up having an allergic reaction and was in the hospital with 105 degree fever. My mother is a huge advocate of vaccinations as she works for a doctor's office and it is one area we will always disagree on.
Totally understand your situation. Stick to your decision not to vaccinate your youngest child. As parents we have been given the duty to protect them. I feel all parents should ask a few more questions before giving their child something. My husband and I were always a little hesitant about them and for good reason. We ended up waiting to vaccinate our oldest daughter, who is now 3.5, until she was 11 months old and I'm thankful. She reacted 2 weeks after her first Pentacel shot with a high fever, some vomiting , mild diareah and (loss of appitite for 2 weeks), which she couldn't afford because she was always a slender baby. Since the first reaction was 2 weeks after we didn't rush to blame the shot-i WISH WE HAD. Two months later and the 2nd shot she reacted the same but this time it was the very next day. I asked people about it and they said that it was normal. So two months later off she went for her third shot. This time she cried a lot when she was given the shot and that night she was spiking a fever and the same reactions happened. There were times when we couldnt get her to stop crying. We were thankful she didn't get these when she was only 2,4 and6 months. I would have lost it because at least she was older and more robust to handle it. Anyway, a month or so later she started getting a lot of fevers (once 3 fevers in two weeks) so we took her to the clinic and she had no signs of infection anywhere. We were told she was just fighting something. A month later she picked up a stomach bug and as she was getting over it she started having seizure type episodes. Now these happen when she sleeps and has been very sick, we are still trying to figure them out. We don't know if there is a link b/w the seizures and the vaccines. It's coincidental though. We have not continued with any more of her shots and never will. We will educate her on the risks and when she is 18 she can make that decision herself. There is an exccelent book written by Stephanie Cave and Deborah Mitchell if you want to do a search. She is a doctor who deals with vaccine damage. She also explains what you can do to make them safer if you do choose to immunize. Also, which children should avoid them because they are at higher risk for adverse reactions. If you live in the USA apparently, if you push hard enough, you do have these opption (I.E. sepparating the MMR). If your in Canada you apparently are out of luck, you either do it the governments way or the highway, as was our experience. We chose the highway for the sake of our daughter. We also will not be immunizing our youngest daughter because my children are at high risk becuase I have autoimmune disorders- Milk allergy, asthma, exema, hayfever, and IBS. I just plead with parents out there to educate yourselves. Make sure your sources are credible. You will be terrified once you start learning more about how they are made, what's in them, how long (or how short) they are tested for and the lack of observation for longterm adverse reations.
Anyway sorry for blabing its a touchy subject
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By law yes...but a parent can sign a waiver exempting their child from the vaccinations. I am not sure if the dr's signature needs to be included on it as well. I know this because I went through it a while back before I had decided to homeschool. My kids are now in public school and I went ahead and got their vaccinations. For me the pros outweighed the cons. I still feel uncomfortable about vaccs but the fact that there is no longer any mercury in any of the vials it has made it easier for me.
I would never make a parent feel bad for not vaccinating. It is hard to tell parents what to do for their children. That is their right. All of my decisions were made by my husband and myself. We did not let anyone else out there influence us. I think vaccs are much easier on kids as they get older versus when they are babies and toddlers.
By law, in order for children to attend public school, they must have vaccinations
I will go out on a limb here, but I believe it may vary by state? Our state while they encourage and prefer it cannot deny a child education because they arent vaccinated. I have a very good friend whose child is only weeks younger than one of my own who will not vaccinate. I vaccinate. When we both enrolled our children in kindergarten I provided my vaccination form (s) - she signed a release. DONE. He went to public school the same as my child of the same age......this just being my personal experiece etc.
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well i had a meningercoccal scare and had to be taken to hospital by my dad simply because i was too lazy to go down to the local doctors to get the vaccination. i went to japan for a year after year 11 and everyone at school got it done for free so i missed out due to being away. my simple laziness could of cost my life.
also i went to high school with a girl who doesnt get vaccinations due to religious beliefs. she had a younger sibling who died from the whooping cough. that poor baby would of suffered not being able to breathe.
I think everyone has their own right to do whatever they chose in this situation. But, my opinion is that children should be vaccinated. ( REMOVED ) , and believe me, it's much worse on children if you don't vaccinate. The risks of the vaccines are much less than the risks of not vaccinating. It's especially important in this day and age. I am not condemning those who don't vaccinate. It's your choice. I am only stating my opinion.
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By chosing to not vaccinate your children, you are placing NOT only your kids life in danger, but other childrens life in danger. It is much safer to take the vaccinations rather to not take them.
For example: The more and more people that decide their children don't need the vaccination, leave their children wide open to get the illness. When this happens, then the newly vaccinated children are able to catch a much stronger strain of the disease from all the unvaccinated children running around, which could harm not only your child, but everyone else's children too. It is a bad deal.
i agree. im doing a 20 week report, and my group topic is on epidemics. my subtopic is on whether or not vaccines should be mandatory in the United States. i obviously believe and know that immunizations MUST BE COMPULSORY. paralytic polio has been eliminated in the US and the entire Western Hemisphere BECAUSE of vaccinations. before vaccines were developed for this disease 13,000 to 20,000 cases of polio were reported annually in the US. in 1953 to 1963 an average of 450 measles-associated deaths were reported yearly in the US. IF MEASLES VACCINATIONS WERE STOPPED 2.7 MILLION MEASLES DEATHS PER YEAR IS EXPECTED WORLDWIDE. before a vaccine was developed for haemophilus influenza type b meningitis, approximately 20,000 cases of invasive Hib were reported each year. since the introduction of the Hib vaccine, Hib incidences have reduced by 98%. prior to pertussis vaccines, between 150,000 and 260,000 cases of pertussis were reported annually, with up to 9,000 pertussis-related deaths. i could continue on with the rest of the infectious diseases and why immunizations must be mandated but i really dont feel like repeating my whole first draft. im not trying to change anybody's stance on the topic of immunizations. just to inform people. i just dont understand why people still believe that mercury in the vaccines causes autism....because they have already extracted the mercury if you opt out your children from receiving immunizations you are sending your children to their deaths (probable/possible) if they become diagnosed with one of the many infectious diseases and other diseases. think about the benefits of getting immunized. and the consequences of not getting immunized. vaccines are being improved to prevent adverse effects: newer pertussis vaccine (acellular or DTaP) which is effective and is associated with fewer mild and moderate adverse reactions compared to the older (whole-cell DTP) vaccines.
hmm. yeah, i do not want to make anyone feel bad because they did not immunize their children. i do not have kids, hence my age, and i do not want any in the future, but if i were to change my opinion i would rather make my actions based upon my own beliefs, alone.
adverse effects ARE normal. please do not think im trying to change people's opinions. im just trying to inform anyone. but, think about the BENEFITS of getting vaccinated and the consequences of not getting vaccinated. if anyone is interested there is a great site on what would happen if we stopped vaccinations. http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/...WhatIfStop.htm
To vball: I applaud all the research you are doing on this topic. Perhaps you'd like to debate a room full of parents who have vaccine damaged children? What would you say? I am truly curious, as I am pregnant and have more or less decided that we will be selectively vaccinating at our own pace. Any vaccines we choose to do will be done one at a time and when the kid is older and thier body actually knows what to do with it. I am interested to hear your reply.
I've heard the vaccine-autism correlation thing too, vball03. Of all the "I'm anti-vax" stories I've read, most of the parents said they weren't doing so because of the mercury in the needles.
Whether you vaccinate your kids or choose to cross your fingers and hope they don't get measles or hepatitis, there will be a risk involved, although the risk of damage from the vaccines is significantly lower than that of what is being vaccinated against. However, it's the parents' choice if they want to play roulette with their children's health.
I also had a terrible and life-threatening reation to the DTP vaccine. In 1971.That's 36 years ago, and I know (from logic and experience as well as research) that the vaccines that they administer to babies now are so completely different that they are virtually not the same vaccine at all.
I do know that all of the dirty-infested h*llholes that the Army sent me to would have been a lot scarier if I hadn't been vaccinated and immunized. Yellow fever, plague, anthrax.... yes, I've had 'em all stuck into me at one point or another.
There is a time and a place for everything. If I had a kid going to college (which I will in a couple of years) there is no way that I would let him go without the MCG vaccine. No reason at all for young folks to be dying of meningitis when it is completely preventable.
Everyone has an opinion, and we'll never agree. But this is definitely a good forum to discuss it, and I am glad that everyone is voicing an opinion whilst respecting those of others.