Steriods - Vitamins & Supplements Message Board

mavrick36 · 11-29-2001, 12:39 PM

I am not too bad of shape but alote of people have been telling me that steriods are not that harmful when you only take one cycle(one or two months). I heard that you do lose your strenth when you get off then but would you lose your mass too? I would like to learn about safer steriods and the proper ones to take. if anyone could help me out It would be appreitated.

Thanks

eblastics · 12-21-2001, 05:48 PM

Hi mavrick36 - I'm 25 yrs old and took steroids a few years ago. I took Dbol pills alone and at one time stacked them with shots of Omnidren. They worked great and I was absolultey delighted to finally be making progress in size, strength, & and most importantly to me, weight gain. Guess what though? Eventually the cycle came to an end (6 weeks) and I lost every single pound I gained, plus some. I desperately tried to maintain what I gained by taking creatine, working out extra hard, eating better than ever, etc... It didn't matter, it was all long gone and I was feeling so bleak about it I quit working out for over a year.
The fact is steroids are very temporary and not at all worth what they do to your body. I got a blood test 3 weeks into my cycle and my liver values were about 20,000 (normal is about 200).
Personally, I recommend cell tech creatine (drink a ton of water when taking creatine), a healthy diet, and patience.

Good luck.

andreaphilip3 · 02-20-2002, 11:47 AM

bad stuff

dont do it.

drisnya · 04-13-2002, 08:15 PM

what about prohormones???? 4-diol, for example. these are natural derivatives that do produce > testosterone levels. i believe (in my limited research) that steroids are a far different thing....i saw some stuff that was veterinarian....horse shots? you gotta be kidding me...

i took a couple of cycles of 4-diol, and 19 nordiol about six months ago and had super gains in strength and moderate size. very pleasing and i did not work out to become a body-builder. when i cycled off i had no problems at all. i exercise a little less than i did when i was taking them but i attribute that to a pesky left elbow that keeps me from going heavy on bench and curls.

with prohormones i had zero rage but i did have an urge to actually get up and do some exercises...i can't say anything bad them.

Jay Tor · 04-14-2002, 04:08 PM

From personal experience [my child's] steroids are very risky even when prescribed in a life-threatening situation.

Most steroids are immune-suppressants. This means that they suppress your entire immune system therefore you cannot fight off infections properly. This is because steroids inhibit the bone marrow which produces blood [oxygen-trasnporting red cells, infection-fighting white cells and platelets].

The 'muscle' tissue gained on steroids esp. the prednisone-related steroids lacks substance - it's squishy - stringy and waterlogged.

Excess steroids cause the adrenal glands to shut down. This means that you must slowly wean yourself off the steroids otherwise you risk serious, even fatal, consequences.

Don't know much about hormone precursors. But if these precursors somehow interact within the same metabolic pathways as the steroids, then there's a good likelihood that they might result in similar problems. May be a good idea to check on exactly how they're metabolized - anything going through the liver or kidneys needs to be carefully monitored anyway.

Would suggest some more reading/research starting with the NIH and NLM databases.