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Old 11-05-2006, 10:36 AM   #1
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Safe amount of Vitamins?

HI everyone, I am a diabetic ( on oral med.) and I have asked you questions about what vitamins I could take to help better control my blood sugars. Since then I have started taking A.L.A. 200mg daily, Cinnamon 1000mg.2 xdaily, combo pill of calcium,magnesium and zinc, a super b-complex pill which contains a very high percent of daily value of the B1,B2, B3 and B12, that is needed, Fish oil 1000mg daily, and a vitamin that is called Blood Sugar with Gymnema plus GTF Chromium and this vitamin also contains: Cinnamon,Fenugreek210mg.Nopal Opuntia spp.150mg.,Gymnema Sylvestre extract 75%,Gymnema Acids (leaf) 100mg, and Bilberry(leaf)100mg. Ok, now for my question my doctor has not heard of a lot of these vitamins and therefore doesn't seem to have an opinion of whether I should take them or not, so does anyone know if this is a safe amount to take of these vitamins? What about the super b-complex, since the b-1,2,3 and12 are over the percent daily value am I over dosing on it?

 
Old 11-06-2006, 12:28 AM   #2
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Re: Safe amount of Vitamins?

I made a regimen for my friend with diabetic neuropathy
that consists of 67 dietary supplements {pills} daily,
not to mention the 22 doctor prescribed pain pills daily.

Seems crazy, but there is a great evil that needs curing
and the doctors offer no help as they say 'there is no cure'.
This is a situation where either sit still and do nothing or
try something. We are lucky, cyberspace is a huge library
and it's easy to do homework and get fast answers.

The decision to try alternative treatment was chosen,
the doses are high, the regimen is divided into 6 sessions
daily.

This regimen was started a month ago and no side effects
have been noted with dietary supplements.

Benefits realized so far are;

1. lower blood sugar, about 100 points lower on average.

2. insulin intake was 100cc daily, now it's 35cc daily
and some days only 20cc is needed.

3. no consipation problems anymore {caused by the pain meds}

4. mood is boosted {fixed B12 deficiency}

5. regular urination - to help evacuate water retention
caused by another pain pill.

6. cholesterol triglycerides levels dropped 40% - 50% , but
total cholesterol and HDL still need fixin - time will tell.

Recently,

A. we added some homeopathy pills as an experiment
B. another type of supplement to see if it can be a substitute for another very bad {doctor's prescribed}
med.

Last, we tried a certain supplement to help with mucus
in the lungs, my friend has morning coughing fits for years
and to my suprise, this dietary supplement has fixed this
problem in just a week and this suppliment has been around
for 40 years, lol.....

The more we experiment with supplements, the more
amazed I am.

I view supplements as a preventive maintenance type of
medicine in small doses and certain supplements may be used for
treatment if taken in higher doses. This seems to be the lesser
of the evils.

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Old 11-06-2006, 04:43 AM   #3
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Re: Safe amount of Vitamins?

Jenny....What your taking is very good for diabete's. The only thing i'd increase is the fish oil. Your taking 1000 mg (300 mg EPA/DHA) so i'd raise that to 4000 mg of fish oil daily.

As far as the B vitamins at high doses...well they are water soluble and you''ll urinate out any excess as dark yellow greenish color. Just remember that for type-2 diabete's that diet still is number one over controlling it and that supplements will enhance the diet changes.....
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:17 AM   #4
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Re: Safe amount of Vitamins?

Thank you so much for easing my mind about the B vitamins and about increasing the fish oil.

 
Old 11-06-2006, 01:48 PM   #5
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Re: Safe amount of Vitamins?

Hi Jenny,

I am also diabetic (type II) and am just starting to take supplements to help control blood sugar. I just wanted to let you know I have taken megadoses of b-vitamins for years (since high school, and I'm well past 30). Like 6foot3 says it will just pass out of your body.

I can testify that taking high doses of Methylcobalamin has eased my neuropathy pains a great deal, and fairly quickly. The FDA recommends something like 2.4 Micrograms, I take well over 10000 milligrams daily with no problems. Of course I take a multi and other supplements, not just B12.

I have a friend with some sort of reaction to B vitamins, but I think that is extremely rare.

Besides, I read someplace, maybe here, that the FDA recommendations are the minimum requirements.

Anyway good luck to you,

 
Old 11-10-2006, 12:50 AM   #6
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Re: Safe amount of Vitamins?

Hi

Have been taking oral diabetes meds for about 6 years. Metformin 3g and Glipizide 3 daily

Have improved my health markedly with Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg twice daily with extra Vit b1 added to protect the liver. Also take B12 sublingual drops as Metformin depletes B12 also take Co enzyme Q10 100mg daily as metformin depletes this too. B12 is best absorbed under the tongue in liquid form.

i also take 6 to 8 g of fish oil and about 600mg magnesium aspartate. Also magnesium great for cramps and anxiety and aids sleep

 
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