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Old 02-01-2006, 10:36 AM   #1
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Insulin and Weight Loss

A Lot of Diets base their theories on Insulin Levels. And that you want to keep Insulin levels down because it is a fat storing Hormone.

but do you realize that When you have an insulin spike because of eating a High GI food that the spike is only for a very short time?

Also That inorder for the insulin to store Fat there needs to be an excess of Calories available to store? meaning if your calories are less then what is being burned then Insulin will not store any as fat!

Also the Difference between a high GI carb and low GI carb really is not the amount of insulin needed to bring your blood sugar down....It is that a High GI Carb will raise it Faster then the Low GI Carb. If both are 15 grams of carb then the same amount of insulin will be released. With the low GI carb it will just be released more slowly.


Insulin is completely Misunderstood by Most people when it comes to Weight loss. It truly is not something that one should need to be overly concerned about.

 
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Re: Pmac's Topic of the Day - Insulin!

What I read that makes sense to me is a little different from what you have explained. It is not just a matter of insulin levels, but the interplay of glucose and insulin. Gaining even a little understanding of that is what helped me understand my overeating and FINALLY get it a little under control (most of the time, at least ).

So the story goes (very simple version, of course) . . . some of what we eat turns into glucose once it is digested. Glucose provides energy, so the body uses some of it immediately. But when there is more glucose than the body can use right away, the body shoots out some insulin to help store the glucose for future use (some as fat - hence the insulin/fat storage connection).

Problems start with some of our modern food. Much of the refined, processed stuff turns into glucose very quickly, much quicker than most things we **** sapiens would have eaten in the "wild". Compound this with overeating, and tremendous amounts of glucose are being introduced into many of our systems; much more than the body evolved to handle. For all this excess glucose, the poor body attempts to keep pace by producing insulin to "store" the glucose. Some people's systems seem to do okay with this and handle all the excess; some don't.

Some bodies have so much trouble keeping the glucose and insulin balanced, that the minute they detect glucose coming they overcompensate, pumping out insulin without regard to how much glucose is actually there. What can happen then is that there is too much insulin in the system. When there is too much insulin in the system, the body then wants glucose. How does the body get more glucose quickest? Eating! So the body then puts out a call for food, not because it is hungry, but because it needs the glucose to get rid of the insulin. Then the whole cycle starts again.

Indeed, a common phenomenon among some overeaters is the compulsion to eat even when they are not hungry, even when they have just eaten, and being practically powerless to stop. Traditionally, this has been explained (condemned) as lack of will power. Of course, it is self-serving of me to favor an out-of-balance hormone model, but I think it does a better job of explaining the situation than "lack of will power". It also holds out better hope for solutions.

Personally, I would recommend people learn about insulin. Some may find answers in the course of their learning. And with so much type 2 diabetes around, most of us will probably benefit from knowing something about insulin. At the very least, they will learn something about their bodies.

 
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Re: Pmac's Topic of the Day - Insulin!

I think you are fairly close. What happens is that when you eat something that is High GI you get a spike in Blood sugar levels...your body then produces insulin to lowere it. what can happen is that a bit too much insulin is produced and the Blood sugar level then gets a bit too low. One possible symptom of Low blood sugar is Increased Hunger. The Body will fairly quickly Fix the Low Blood sugar...so if you weight the Hunger/craving will subside. It is this Sequence that will cause some people to Be hungry right after eating High GI Foods. This is what can cause over eating. this does not happen with everybody and can easily be prevented by Eating some Low GI foods at the same time (fat,Protein) As when you combine foods the Overall GI of what you eat decreases.

As for The Aspect that many state about The fat storing capabilities of Insulin.....Insulin will not Store Fat unless there is an excess of Calories.

All Foods, Protein and Fat included. Will get broken down to glucose an then be stored as Glycogen. The Average person can store 2000 calories of Glygogen. It is when the glycogen is full that any excess Glucose is then stored as Fat.

 
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Re: Pmac's Topic of the Day - Insulin!

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The Body will fairly quickly Fix the Low Blood sugar...so if you weight the Hunger/craving will subside. It is this Sequence that will cause some people to Be hungry right after eating High GI Foods. This is what can cause over eating.
In a relatively healthy body, yes. The view of some is that some people get so out of whack that it is not fixed so easily as you say.

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this does not happen with everybody
Agreed. That's why I used "some people"; "some bodies" an awful lot in my post.

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and can easily be prevented by Eating some Low GI foods at the same time (fat,Protein)
Gosh. That sounds like low carbing!!!

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As for The Aspect that many state about The fat storing capabilities of Insulin.....Insulin will not Store Fat unless there is an excess of Calories.
I'm not quite sure of the reason for saying this (again) since I think most of us are/were eating excess calories if we are reading a weight loss board. But as long as you brought this up, one of the "low carb experts" (actually two, the Hellers) found a connection between excess insulin levels and heart disease even in people who were not overweight.

 
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Re: Pmac's Topic of the Day - Insulin!

No...Not low Carbing...I said to combine Proteins and Fats with the Carbs.

One thing to keep in mind about insulin levels......Being overweight causes insulin levels to be higher. High Insulin levels do cause you to be overweight.

The People that are out of whack and it doesnt get fixed as easily are considered to have HypoGlycemia.....Which Like diabetes is a Problem in itself.

This Is more to Debunk the Myth that Carbs and Insulin levels cause you to be fat! Which I am not sure from what youo have said if you believe or not.

 
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