I had a question? maybe a silly question? so don't laugh
Is ground beef bad for you?, the reason I ask is because I eat ground beef about 2-3 days a week and I get the regular ground beef(not lean) to me the regular gb just taste better! and to get the fats that my body needs.
I don't think I get enough fats in my diet anyway?
my diet just consist of low calorie cereal skim non- fat milk, or oatmeal with blueberries, fruit or maybe a couple eggs with 100 wheat toast,( I do watch out on the condiments)
Then for dinner/supper I have bake/grill chicken /turkey fish/tuna a veggie or two /leamon water/and then theres the ground beef? usually just a grilled pattie, smothered onions! and more veggies like lettus tomatos, green beans/ lima beans/ chooped spinach, whole kernal corn/peas all fresh/frozen,
but is the ground beef bad for me?
I don't eat much dairy products just the skim milk/eggs and a low fat yogurt about 3 or 4 times a week
I just want to make sure I'm getting the nutrints/fats I need.
been having bal troubles? lately
I'm loseing weight but having a little trouble with ''other'' things?
anyone have any ideas..I don't want to go see a Dr.
What makes you think ground beef is a good source of the kinds of dietary fat your body needs? Ground beef is high in saturated fat. I did a search and 4 ounces of 70% lean ground beef still gives you 13g of saturated fat. So if you're eating the regular kind several times a week, you're taking in quite a lot of saturated fat. There are two kinds of fat you want to avoid, saturated fat and trans fat. The healthy fats are unsaturated, polyunsaturated, and omega-3s. The foods that include these fats are fatty fish like salmon, nuts, omega-3 eggs, ground flaxseed, and extra virgin olive oil. I love red meat, but I limit myself to one meal per week and always use the extra lean kind. Unless it's for a cheat meal (which you should only have one or two of per week), avoid regular ground beef.
Last edited by OutToLunch; 05-25-2006 at 09:57 AM.
I completely agree with OutToLunch. Ground beef, especially the chuck, is very high in saturated fat. It's on my no-no list for a ton of reasons (weight, cholesterol & GI troubles).
If the "bal troubles" you referred to are bowel troubles, you need to incorporate more fiber and healthy fats into your diet. Instead of lemon water to sautee that chicken or fish, use olive oil. Put some olive oil on salads. Ground flax is an excellent source of healthy fats & fiber. It's good on your oatmeal, too. The skins of apples and potatoes are great sources of fiber. Incorporate a baked potato into one of your dinners, and incorporate an apple as a snack -- just be sure to wash them really, really good and eat the skins.
Word of caution: If you decide to try ground chicken or ground turkey for your ground beef meals, check out the labels! They're often higher in fat than ground beef. They grind the skin and dark meat, too. Best bet is to take a package of boneless, skinless chicken breast right to the butcher and have him/her grind it right there for you.
Like OutToLunch, I treat myself to red meat once in a while, but rarely in the form of ground beef. It's just too boring, lol. If I'm going to treat myself, it's filet mignon all the way, baby. If money's tight, then I'll buy the inexpensive london broil and braise it covered in the oven for a tasty roast -- not to mention the nice sandwiches the leftovers make
well alright then guess I'll cut out the ground beef...OutToLunch I did cut out the beacon...now you say cut out the ground beef....well I will if you reserch it...guess I'll stop buy it.
I was just thinking that it was a source of fat that I may need? I avoid the sat/trans fats as much as I can,the only fats I eat is like in the fish/tuna, but there the good fats right? and then theres the yogurt.
what is a good sourch of fiber other than eating the peeling /skins off apples/patatos?
I don't eat much G.B. anyway, just though it might help to ''losen'' things up a little.
is cottage cheese good for ya..in moderation? I eat that also as a filler with fruits.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP/OPINIONS /SUGGESTIONS
I appreciate them.
First off, what ever gave you the idea that ground beef would be a source of the good fats? Like I said above, the best sources for the healthy fats are fatty fish, nuts, flaxseed, and olive oil. Animal meat tends to be high in saturated fat so look for extra lean cuts or trim it yourself. Turkey is actually leaner than chicken so there's less to trim off.
Watch out for tuna. It's a good source of protein and healthy fats, but the canned kind tends to be high in mercury so eat it in moderation. Do a search and you'll find a list of which types of fish are still safe to eat.
Yogurt is also known to be high in saturated fat. If you eat it or any other dairy product, get low or nonfat only. Cottage cheese is a good source of protein, but it's very high in sodium.
Fiber should come from fruits, vegetables, beans, and whole grains. By the way, cut down on potatoes. It's a food that causes massive sugar spikes.
what is a good sourch of fiber other than eating the peeling /skins off apples/patatos?
Beans, certain breads, certain boxed cereals, green leafy veggies, brown rice...of course there's supplements, as well. I know there are a lot of foods full of fiber, but these are just off the top of my head because they're what I eat. There's also currently -- and in the past -- discussion on the diet and nutrition boards about good sources of fiber. Harry is also a gem full of suggestions over on the bowel disorder board.
And you don't want to just peel the skins off, LOL. Eat the whole thing, including the skins
You can do an easy internet search for "high fiber foods" and then just take your pick of foods you might be interested in.
You mentioned cottage cheese. I love it myself (the 2% kind), but you might want to lay off cheese until your, um, "pipes" are running good again. If you must, use a very strong cheese you don't need much of, i.e., parmigiano reggiano, bleu, etc.
Be sure you're drinking plenty of water and incorporating aerobic activity daily. A 20-minute walk after dinner loosens things up for me. Based on what you wrote, you need more olive oil in your diet. Trade that hamburger for olive oil. Very healthy trade, IMO.
If things don't clear up, don't hesitate on seeing your doctor. He/she can prescribe a softener and order any testing that might be warranted. It's definitely better to be safe than sorry in this category. I think more fiber, more olive oil, a brisk walk after dinner and plenty of water will help you, tho.
My personal Opinion is Go with the Lean Ground beef and you Should be Fine. Everything in moderation. As Long as you arent eating to many other Saturated/Trans Fats the Ground beef should not be a problem.
It really depends what your goals are....If you want live with a "Perfect" Diet (if there is such a thing) then Cut it out. But if you want a Good diet that allows for "Bad" Foods in moderation. then what you are doing will not be a problem.
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if you start to miss ground beef or bacon or anything,you should try morning star farms (its a vegetarian brand).. they have tons of meat replacers that are low in fat and good for you, they all taste really good and they are vegetarian! yayy
I've been knowing for a while now that potatos cause sugar spikes. When I told a so-called nutritionist/weight loss specialist it's the reason I stay away from potatos, she acted as if that was the first she had ever heard of such a thing.
Anyway, do sweet potatos cause the same sugar spikes as the white potatos do? I've always heard if you have to eat potatos, the sweet potatos are a better choice.
Sweet potatoes are a better choice. Basically treat regular potatoes like white bread. I'm not surprised the nutritionist didn't know about potatoes. There's a huge lag time for nutritionists and doctors to learn about the latest findings. Most just don't have time to keep up so chances are people like us know about things that they don't. I've met doctors who haven't heard of High Fructose Corn Syrup.
I personally think that eating some ground beef - as long as it is high quality (which means organic, grass-fed) is perfectly fine - I've noticed that during certain periods my body craves red meat, which I don't often eat, and it feels healthy to give my body what it asks for. Of course this doesn't mean that eating pasta or chocolate is healthy as long as I crave it, but when I am eating healthy, I don't crave these types of foods - I crave salads and fruit and various other things that nourish me. Everyone needs different nourishment, so my opinion is that if you are craving ground beef, go ahead, as long as it is in moderation and above all HIGH QUALITY!
Anyone who craves a hamburger occasionally can opt for the pricier 95% lean cuts of ground beef...or the slightly fattier 93% "lean."
It's STILL pretty fatty with 45% of of its calories coming from fat, about half saturated.
But it's a far cry from from the 75% "lean" which is 77% FAT by calories...like eating a stick of BUTTER!
Be careful cooking the very lean burgers, they turn rock hard if made well done...and they cost too much to ruin.
Very true Lenin in regards to the cooking of lean meats. The only red meat I eat is Buffalo, and the only way I eat it is rare, medium rare at the highest! Anything beyond that is a waste of money since I will throw it out if it's over cooked. It loses it's flavor not to mention you're liable to dislocate your jaw trying to chew it. It's what I imagine chewing leather coated in sawdust to be like! lol
Sweet potatoes are a better choice. Basically treat regular potatoes like white bread. I'm not surprised the nutritionist didn't know about potatoes. There's a huge lag time for nutritionists and doctors to learn about the latest findings. Most just don't have time to keep up so chances are people like us know about things that they don't. I've met doctors who haven't heard of High Fructose Corn Syrup.
Outolunch, this isnt about you and ITs not about whats Right or whats wrong...just reading your post made me think about this
.but I find it very interesting How Many People Can Hear one Thing From hundreds of people and then hear the opposite from a single person and they automatically believe that person. ( I have been guilty of it)
If we are not to believe nutrionists or Doctors then who should we believe? Because one Dr Wrote a book and had a different Idea does that make him right? How Many People have read Kevin Trudeau 's Books and believe him over their own doctors? the guy doesnt have any expertise...he consistently repeats that what he says is what he believes ..Obviously to prevent himself from being sued...
Its also Interesting how Many of the people that promote these Idea's Tend to knock Doctor's and nutrionists alike.
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The reason I knock doctors and nutritionists is because I have friends and family members who are in those fields. And even they readily admit that their knowledge is often not up-to-date. Of course, they would never tell patients this, but they do admit in private. One doctor in my family rarely prescribes anything for his kids. He preaches that food is the root cause of most illnesses. He's also big enough to admit that with his busy career and personal life, he doesn't have time to read the latest research findings nor do his colleagues. Further, there have been plenty of books and articles written on the subject for the last 30 years. People are so used to thinking doctors and other health care professionals are experts. In med school, most doctors only take a semester of nutrition. And the curriculum is assembled by groups with affiliations to the food industry.
I don't AUTOMATICALLY believe someone just because they're telling me something different than the majority. I look at everything with a critical eye. But that has to apply to everyone, including the people who express the majority opinion. Back in the 80s and 90s, doctors kept telling their patients to eat diets heavy in carbs. They, like a lot of us, believed the government and its silly food pyramid. But we now know how wrong the government and a lot of those doctors were.
As I tried to say...I was not directing at you personally.....I was making more of a general statement. And you are Probably right about General Practioners. But there are many Doctors that to Specialize in Diets and Weight loss.
Sure there have been many Books....but if it is Comercial Book then the Author is doing it to MAke Money.....I would take more credit in Things that are Written in Scientific journals and Texts. When it comes to the Metabolism I would tend to Listen to Endocrinologists. As For the Internet....You cant really trust anything on the internet. There is no accountability on the internet....anyone can say anything they want.
The Weightloss industry is huge.....there are lots of people that make lots of money on it. If they can come up with somthing that is different and unique ti puts them in the position to make much more money. Many of These So Called Experts will Take Different Facts or Truths and twist them into something that isnt.
I know you dont agree with this but Insulin Spikes is one of those. They Use the Fact that Insulin is What Stores Fat. So they Conclude that if you have more insulin in your body then you are storing more fat! They forget to mention that you still need to have a calorie surplus before any will be stored as fat. that before it is stored as fat it will first get stored in glycogen. What is left will be stored in Fat Regardless of how much insulin is available. The Amount of Insulin in the body does not control how much fat is stored.
Everyone knows know that FAT does not make you fat. But at one time it was thought that it did. This Was Based on the Fact that the body needs very little fat each day so if you were eating more then you needed it would be stored as fat!
Now they twist it around and basically use the same Idea for Carbs...and they say Carbs make you fat! It doesnt Make them money to just tell the truth and that regardless of what you eat it is Too many CALORIES that make you fat. Bottom line is that if you consume more calories then what you body uses then you Gain fat...if you Consume less then it uses you will lose.
And Just because something you eat gets stored as fat doesnt mean you are going to gain weight. If your calories are at a deficit or in balance you will Burn off that fat.
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I think I replied to the wrong post.
I thought the topic was about GROUND BEEF.
Alas, with my experience with Atkins diet boards, all discussion turn round towards the carbohydrate content of food...vis a vie, are potatoes worse than yams...even when the subject started out as BEEF!
Anyhoo, ground beef is generally a source of carb free food that is IMMERSED in gluey, heart ruining fats in copious quantities. It is a high fat food whether 70, 80 or 90% fat content.
Yams on the other hand yams are a very nice food...as are Idaho potatoes...HOLD THE BUTTER!
thanks you guys, I'll try to remember what all you guys have advised and suggested..its great information from all of you guys.
I was thinking what all you have said as for as whats a good fiber food...my thoughts was basicly the same.
as far has eatting the G.B. (ground beef) I can't lie to you guys I do eat G.B. only because I love it I guess? but I just have it in a ''monderation'' kind of way if theres such a thing..I know its cheating my body but if I just eat a little maybe 1 or 2 x a week? and not much of it...usally I do eat healthy sinse Janr of this year, but I do have a cheat day...rib-eye /bake patato...or the G.B. then the old favorite ''chololate'' cheese cake/Ice Cream! but I eat or cheat in moderation.
then theres that exercise...I only cheat like once a month...but I exercise everyday for at least an hour..or longer.
I have trouble with buffet's?..most of my friends want to take me out..were do we usally go? the darn temping buffets thats where....I usally eat a salad, veggies, thats bout it maybe some fruits..but to see everyone there piling up there plates with all my old favorites is sure hard on me to turn down but 3 times now I did turn it down..I'm going to lose my weight I need ...no matter waht.
I can't turn down the invations for dinner either... or I'd be a prude...
if some one is trying to lose weight a buffet is not the place to go..but so far I've manage to get by ok so far....takes a lot of guts and seer will power.
as far as my ''plumbing'' everythings is fine..I find it some times if I don't eat enough of the fiber foods I get that way or eat a lot of dairy.
so all of you have help me on that...No Dr for me.
I'm not a true blue dieter...I just try to eat healthy more & better health wise than I use to and learning my food groups and taking it all quite seriously now.
I'm loseing weight on what I'm doing..I just w hope to keep it off and slim down and start to feel /look better.
I want to be 34x34 in my paints like I use to be not the 38's currently. there getting loser..lol but not there yet.
anyway thank all of you for your help I appreciate all of you guys.
Your Doing Great Chevy! Some People Can Cut certain Foods Out...But I a Firm Believer that Anything is Fine in Moderation. Even FRENCH FRIES and CHICKEN WINGS!
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