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Old 06-23-2002, 10:11 PM   #1
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so tired of dieting....

i am so tired of this weight issue. lose some, gain some more. i've been taking the pills regularly, eating alot of salads. treated myself to a candy bar over a week ago, decided 1 a month wouldn't kill me, stayed with my exercise... been doing everything the same that i was doing when i lost the 9 pounds... now i get on the scale and i've gained 5 of it back. i'm tired of it. i'm just gonna eat myself into obesity. if anyone else has ordered the pills i hope you have better luck than i. seems as though i'm just destined to be fat, so i might as well at least enjoy what i eat. so tired of trying, so tired of fighting. i give up. hope yall are doing good, take care and God bless! <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif">

 
Old 06-23-2002, 10:28 PM   #2
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Re: so tired of dieting....

The scale sucks. Its how you look and feel that matter! keep at it!

 
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Old 06-24-2002, 05:34 PM   #3
 
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Don't get discouraged. Have you read the 3 Season's diet by Dr. John Douillard? He says "starvation" diets don't work. That it's really a matter of when you eat more than what you eat. The key is to get your body in balance and then eat your big meal when your body's digestive activity is the highest.

 
Old 06-24-2002, 08:43 PM   #4
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Re: so tired of dieting....

What pills are you taking?

 
Old 06-24-2002, 08:49 PM   #5
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Re: so tired of dieting....

Exercise! You will feel AND look better. Even just a 30 minute walk several days a week will help immensely. Best of luck!

 
Old 06-24-2002, 09:16 PM   #6
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Re: so tired of dieting....

If you are tired of dieting, then stop! Statistics show that it rarely works for long anyway. In fact, only 0.5% of people keep their weight loss 5 years. Dieting is useless and potentially dangerous.

Statistics also show that a fit fat person has the same lifetime expecations as a normal weight people (and they pay the same insurance rates also). So the key here is to get moving. Make yourself fit which you can do with 30 minutes of exercise every second day.

The final thing to do is to reduce the amount of sugar you eat by as much as possible. Don't target weight, target sugar. Sugar makes you fat, it makes you want to eat more sugar and it can eventually lead to type II diabetes. Don't worry about eating fat, because fat kills hunger and it won't add to your fat unless you eat lots of sugar with it.

You can be happy, healthy and fat....through exercise. And by exercise I mean fun exercise (like walks in the park, riding a bike, kicking a ball with your kids), not torture. And, by the way, exercise will not help you lose weight either (lots of studies show that). You are doing the exercise to get fit, not to lose weight.

Have fun.

 
Old 06-24-2002, 10:10 PM   #7
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thank you all for your replies. i appreciate them. i am a "big" chic, really big. not sure where the weight came from to begin with (i was always small, until 3 years ago it came out of nowhere). i have been walking 2 miles everyday for about 2 months now. just the walking alone i should have lost a few pounds at least. but up until a few weeks ago i had not even lost a pound (at that time i had been walking just alittle over a month). i got some pills in a few weeks ago (from a place called fat free combo. 2 bottles, 1st is fat attack, 2nd is t-burn). i continued pretty much with the same diet, except i stated eating a real dinner every night of the week, not just once a week like i was. i also had 1 cheat day, i ate 1 candy bar, 1st one i'd had in months. in 10 days i lost 9 pounds. i was so excited, i was finally losing weight. i got on the scale again the other day (for weigh ins) and i've gained 5 pounds back! i've still been walking my 2 miles a day, still watching my fats, carbs, sugar, calories, etc.., i was still doing everything i did when i lost 9 pounds. but 5 found its way back to me. its so daggum frustrating. i hate my weight, i feel so fat and nasty, but NOTHING i do helps me lose.... nothing!!! i have been so depressed since i found out i gained that weight back all i've done is eat and eat and eat. i ate so much i made myself sick. i didn't do my walk yesterday and i didn't do it today. whats the point, its not like its working. it hurts me to walk, but i was so determined it had to work...lol, who was i kidding?! all it did was hurt me because i'm such a fat --- my body can't handle carrying my weight. all this time i've been hurting myself, knees feeling like they are breaking, ankles swelling up hurting like hell, back killing me.... for what?! just to be the same fat --- as i was when i first started, just in more pain because i'm trying to walk around and carry all of this fat! i don't know what else to do. i called about that gastro (something or other) only to find out i cannot afford it. 10 to 20 thousand dollars for the procedure! like i carry that much money on me. i don't have insurance, so there went that idea! i don't even want to leave my house anymore i'm so fat! i hate people seeing me, i hate seeing myself! my lisence (picture on it) was taken 4 years ago (when i was thin) i still have the same picture on it. when i get carded or just have to use my lisence NO ONE BELIEVES THAT IS ME!!! i have been told that i need to go get my lisence because they will not accept someone elses! what a slap in the face, i'm so fat i don't look like myself! i am so depressed, i hurt so much, i feel like a failure! i'm so ashamed of what i've become i can't even stand to look at myself anymore. everyone says "diet, exercise, increase your daily activity, drink water" i've done all of that, so why isn't anything working? i have no reason to lie or exaggerate, i've tried EVERYTHING but NOTHING is helping me. i'll lose a maximum of 15 pounds only to gain back what i lost plus some. my own kids tell me i'm fat.... it hurts me so much to hear those words, but i know its true. i cry every night and i truely hate myself anymore. i just don't know what to do anymore other than just give up. its useless!

 
Old 06-24-2002, 10:36 PM   #8
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Have you had your thyroid levels checked? Hypothyroidism (low thyroid) can cause rapid and significant weight gain and extreme difficulty in losing it even under strict diet and exercise regimens. There are several blood tests that can be run, but I would recommend TSH, Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, and thyroid antibodies be tested to see if you are hypothyroid and possibly suffering from the autoimmune thyroid condition Hashimoto's Disease. Also, check out the Thyroid forum here at Healthboards for more info, especially the information archive.

Alan

 
Old 06-25-2002, 03:03 AM   #9
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Have you tried any of the low carb diets? I know a lot of people scream it's unhealthy, but there are a lot of misconceptions about what low carb really is. Cut out sugar and flour and basically you are now low carbing. You can have meats of all varieties, veggies, nuts, cheese, small amounts of fruit and alot of other good stuff. It will regulate your appetite and take off the weight. Carbohydrate Addict's Diet has a very healthy plan. Personally I like to do Atkins. Check out a newsgroup called alt.support.diet.low-carb. Lots of support and inspiration over there. Good luck!

 
Old 06-25-2002, 05:55 AM   #10
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well, fatanddepressed, i'd say you'd needed an attitude adjustment. ever hear of a "self fulfilling prophesy". perhaps you should change your user name to "bigbutdetermined". you don't need fad diets, you need a major lifestyle overhaul. read some inspirational material, concerning disabled athletes overcoming great obstacles, you know, those with prosthetics who have climbed mountains and ran races. i ran a road race last summer, a race that included walkers too. there was one overweight lady who stands out in my mind. she wore a tshirt that read "it ain't over
'til the fat lady crosses the finish line". and she did. she inspired ME! who cares what others think of you? you should be out to pursue YOUR happiness, not their's! find the support you need locally because we can only do so much for you here. that may mean getting involved in a local walking club or seeking professional help, but you can't surrender to unhappiness, you know it.
best of luck
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Old 06-25-2002, 12:14 PM   #11
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What comes to mind when I read your post is a couple things. First, the nick you've chosen. Does it indicate a dperession problem that you're not getting the proper treatment for? Do you see a therapist? Maybe I missed a post of you speaking of depression.

Untreated depression can make you fat by keeping your mind thinking negative thoughts and keeping you in self sabatoge situations which in some people produce a tendency to eat. You said you have eaten so much you make yourself sick. This isn't healthy mental behavior. I'm not saying you're nuts, just that depression can do this to you. Many people use food as comfort instead of fuel. Do you think this may be a problem for you?

Also as Alan suggested, if you've tried everything and know in your heart you're not cheathing then there is something medically wrong with you as if you eat less calories than you burn you will lose weight EVERY TIME IN EVERY SITUTAION. So do consider speaking with a doctor about a thyroid problem.

Good luck to you.

 
Old 06-28-2002, 05:13 PM   #12
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Please, please check out Eat Right 4 Your type,(book and web) and The Diet Cure, by Dr. Judith Ross (book and web). Changed my life. Between the two, I lost 120 pounds in 10 months.

 
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by all things:
<B>Please, please check out Eat Right 4 Your type,(book and web) and The Diet Cure, by Dr. Judith Ross (book and web). Changed my life. Between the two, I lost 120 pounds in 10 months.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not the losing that is important, its how long you will keep it off. After you have lost weight several times you will learn a few things. Like it gets harder and harder to lose it, it gets harder and harder to keep it off, and in the end most people can't stand the strain, give in and put all their weight back on. Good luck to you, its a long long road ahead.

 
Old 06-30-2002, 08:39 AM   #14
 
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I used to be fat. I researched every different diet and exercise program and came up with something that worked. I was and am committed and will never go off it. Mine is a combination of Atkin's, omega-3 and neandrathin (caveman) diet. I agree with low carb, especially the elimination of fast acting carbs, so that part of Atkin's diet I adopted but not quite to that extreme. I do consume in very small quantities the better carbs such as whole grains, brown rice, etc. Nothing refined, packaged or processed or sugary foods. I don't agree with the high amount of fat in the Atkin's diet and have gone to pretty much a fish, poultry and lean meat ocassionally. All the fruits and veggies I want and some nuts. Which is the omega-3 and neadrathin concept. Studies have shown great health benefits in omega-3 from weight loss, lower heart disease and now studies are showing countries with higher intake of omega-3 in the fish oil form have much lower rates of depression, the list goes on and on. Neandrathin concept goes on the fact that we didn't evolve on carbs and our bodies don't manufacture it very well, makes sense I guess. But to all I did keep eating some low fat yogurt (ok the 120 yr Russians is something to also consider!), low fat cottage cheese and skim milk. Now finding all the right things to eat wasn't just it, the other big thing I found was portion control. That was probably #1. I stick to 3 sensible meals a day and don't snack, that is sometimes hard because I do at times get hungry and I just have to fight it. I do have one cheat day per week, which has also worked well. I know I can have something forbidden every 7 days which keeps me going the other 6 and its much less painful. But I don't go overboard on that day. The other key is definitely exercise and I found weight resistance training to be most beneficial. Our metabolisms slow down as we get older, mainly due to loss of muscle mass. I just simply use ankle weights and dumb bells to exercise. I take the stairs instead of the elevator and walk more, etc. etc. I pretty much only drink water, and alot of it. I'm also hypothyroid as someone else mentioned to have checked. Yes, I agree definitely have that checked. But let me say that firstly find a doctor that really knows about the condition, an endocronologist you should go to. Hypothyroidism is probably one of the most misdiagnosed things. There's a normal range for thyroid levels and many can be at the low end when they may not have normally been for them but are considered to still be in the "normal range". There's also more than just weight gain associated with it, you will be excessivily tired, retain water (that classic puffy face), your hair and nails may become more brittle, joint aches, depression, and in women your cycles will become further apart and more profuse. With the thyroid condition now under control with medication and diet and exercise I went from a size 18 to a size 6 and plan to remain this way. It can be done, don't ever give up. The other thing I found was in the beginning weight loss was very slow, I don't think I really started seeing results for about a month. But then as continued dieting and exercise I've slowly changed that and started to really increase the weight loss but never at more than 2-5 lbs a week. It took a total of 15 months. Now I just have to maintain it. Though that should not be difficult because I'm adament about keeping this new lifestyle forever. Hope this helps.

 
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Usedtobefat:
<B>I researched every different diet and exercise program and came up with something that worked. I was and am committed and will never go off it. Mine is a combination of Atkin's, omega-3 and neandrathin (caveman) diet. I agree with low carb, especially the elimination of fast acting carbs, so that part of Atkin's diet I adopted but not quite to that extreme...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you haven't already read the book "Protein Power" by Dr. Michael Eades, I think you would find it interesting. It contains much useful information on the low carbohydrate diet. It is not quite as strict as Atkins but still stress the avoidance of sugars and other highly refined carbohydrates. The importance of Omega 3 essential fatty acids is discussed also. So is resistance excercises. It is packed with supporting scientific references also. Dr. Michael R. Eades even wrote the forward in Ray Audettes book "NeanderThin". "Protein Power" is well worth the $6.00 I paid for it.

Alan

 
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