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Old 01-01-2003, 08:31 AM   #1
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Question Yeast Inf/Bacterial Inf/Strep Infection - advise please

Sorry this is a long story, that I will try to cut down.
It is now Dec. and I've had vaginal infections since July. I tried to get an appt with my regular GYN in July and was told I could not be fit in, so I went to a new dr.
She told me that I had a yeast infection. She gave me Diflucan. Which I did not think helped me. I also used an over the counter cream to help get rid of it. Went back to her 2 weeks later, she said I was fine.

I was better for a short time, then went to my regular GYN in Aug and told him I still did not feel right. He examined me and said I was fine. The next week I had an infection. I treated myself with over the counter creams, in Aug, Sept, and Oct and finally went to back to the GYN in Nov and told him that I did not feel right and that I thought I had a bacterial infection from the info I found on the internet. Also, that for the last 5 months I've had an infection every month.

He gave me Flagyl from what I said and told me to come back if that did not clear it up. Once again, I was better for a few weeks and then got another infection.

Once again in the beginning of Dec (5th), I went back to the GYN. He was shocked to see me. He thought I'd be cleared up. He finally took a culture and it showed I have a yeast infection, a bacterial infection and a strep infection. He gave me Nizoral, Cleocin, and Amoxil.

Once again, I was okay for a few weeks. Then on the 31st of Dec. Iím back in his office with another infection. From the test in the office, it shows I have a yeast infection. He is sending out for a culture again.

He now has given me Nizoral again and also is having my husband take the same prescription as I am, one pill a day for ten days (200mg).

He says if this doesnít work, he will freeze my cervix to kill off the cells, so the new cells will be healthier?
I really do not want to have to go through this. If it comes to that, I will get a second opinion first.

Does anyone have any advise? I appreciate any help.

Thanks for reading this long story

 
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Old 01-01-2003, 09:08 AM   #2
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I've heard about how couples can pass these infections back and forth and that's why it doesn't clear up. Sounds like your doctor is on the right track; and hopefully, you won't have to go through that freezing thing. I really don't know anything about that; but if you would feel better getting another opinion, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. Hope you feel better soon.

 
Old 01-01-2003, 03:15 PM   #3
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I think this doctor is right in treating your husband also. I agree with the above poster that your are probably passing it back and forth. Men can be infected by a yeast infection and not know it. There are some really great books out there to read about how yeast can affect your health. Try finding "the yeast connection" My doctor reccomended it to me and it contained alot of great information.

 
Old 01-02-2003, 05:58 AM   #4
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Thanks for replying.

I am so frustrated and tired of feeling bad and really at the end or my rope.

I am impatiently waiting for the doctor to call with the culture results. I have not have any relief from the nizoral so far.

The dr did recommed "Yeast Connection". I am going to check the library first before I buy it. (Had to wait until today - they were closed due to the holiday)

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Old 01-08-2003, 10:13 AM   #5
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Yes I highly recommend The Yeast Connection as well.

I am surprised the Nyzoral didn't help you but it may be that you weren't on it long enough. I have a chronic and reoccuring yeast problem and I was on Nyzoral for over a year. For me it was a life saver, although at first I felt worse because of the yeast die off. After a couple weeks everything just kept improving a little everyday. You have to go for a liver function test every 30 days if you take Nyzoral for an extended period of time. Maybe 30 days is all you would need to get your yeast level back in balance.

Also after yeast die off you can be more suseptible to organisms in the drinking water that will flourish and cause a bacterial infection on top of the yeast infection. Sorry I can't recall the name of that little devil at the moment but I can look it up if you want to know. So you need to take medication to clear that up.

Because of my sensitivity to yeast, mold, fungus...ingested or environmental, and chronic and reoccuring systemic yeast infections (which are not caused from reinfection from a partner) I stick to purified water (reverse osmosis)and will only drink tap water if I boil it first. It makes a difference for me.

When I finally found a doctor that knew what to do to help me she said...."I don't have time to sit here and tell you everything you need to know so you need to get yourself educated." I went to the library that day and checked out 50 books. Everyone thought I had flipped out. But it was the thing I ever did. The doctors can do what they can for us (tests & medication) but we can also do many small things for ourself that make a huge difference.

Be patient. You can get this under control. I did. Keep checking with your doctor and get yourself educated.

Rae

 
Old 01-09-2003, 10:35 AM   #6
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Rae,
Thanks for posting.

I will finish all the medicine today. I feel better, but I know the infection is not gone.

I asked advise from my dentist yesterday. (I know a strange place to look for advise about this problem, but he is somewhat of a friend and the closest to a doctor that cares about me) He told me that his wife had yeast and bladder infections in the pass and she got more help from her urologist. So, I made an appt with one I had seen in the pass (for re-occurring bladder infections 1991-93?) to get her take on this.

When I was on nizoral (both times), the doctor gave it to me for ten days.

I tried to read the yeast connection, but to be honest, I hate the way the book is written. It is more like testimonials, rather than informative facts. I have tried to stop eating the foods that contain yeast. I'm eating like 4 yogurts a day.

The infection is not going completely away.

Have to wait until the 15th to see the urologist.

Rae, when you took the nizoral for an extended time, did the infections go away completely?

elephantlvr

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Old 01-09-2003, 02:17 PM   #7
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The problem with yeast infections is (as everyone else pointed out) the repeat, cyclical infection process if both partners are not treated simultaneously. You husband needs to be treated to the same extent that you are too, and it may require something more extensive than a once-a-time deal, too.

Another problem is (as was mentioned) the die off. This WILL make you feel like you are actually getting sicker, you may get nauseous, have skin reactions, your yeast infection may get worse, you may have intestinal problems, vision problems,... yep, all that stuff and more. The Yeast Connection is good, try to hang in there and bear with it.

Another problem is (as the book discusses), food plays a huge role in this, and you need to look for hidden sources of sugars and possible triggers in your diet that you may be overlooking. If you only do it part way, if you cannot devote yourself to really adhering to this eating plan, if you postpone getting well, or if you reintroduce too many different foods or do it too soon, you will just permit recolonization and reinfect yourself.

You may be hypersensitive to sugars, fermented agents, etc., (I am, very much so), and as such, people like us cannot live a "normal life" like so many others, and we simply need to accept the fact that we have to make adjustments and compensations.

 
Old 01-09-2003, 05:48 PM   #8
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elephanlvr...in reply to your question..."did it go away" I would say yes but also that you "may be" suseptible to flair ups down the road but you'll recognize them before they get out of hand.

Before I proceeded with the initial one year treatment plan, I asked my doctor for names of three patients she had treated so I could talk to them. She did and I met with each one. All had used Nizoral, faithfully adhered to the diet, vitamins and the all the suggested treatment and had recovered or greatly improved. This helped me decide what I wanted to do.

With the diet I just started out with:
baked skinless chicken breasts (with cayenne)
baked fish
home made beef stew...just a little beef, mostly vegtables, whole tomatos...no canned stuff.
Lots of vegtables..I cooked everything for awhile.
Oatmeal..great at nite when you get the cravings, it fills you up and satisfies.
Juices..Cranapple and Grape Juice..fill the glass with ice, fill half with juice and half with pure water. I couldn't drink orange juice.
Baked potatoes and yams.
Oatmeal cookies packed full of raisins.
Homemade cranberry bread or cornbread with chucks of apple. I needed something to replace the yeast breads.

After two weeks I would start introducing a new food each week to see what my food sensitivities were. I refrigerate everything. No left overs. My diet is still pretty much the same as above but we all pick our poision and mine is German Chocolate Cake. Now and for the rest of my life..no pop, no junk food, no fried foods, no fast food, no Chinese Food MSG, no ketchup etc. and limit high mold foods..cheese, bananas, musk melon, mushrooms, yeast breads and rolls,ah geewhiz..all my favorite stuff. I hate to eat out because it always makes me feel like I've swallowed a rock..but if I want to enjoy the social aspect of it, I use that chance to cheat and order a piece of lemon pie, or have a bowl of soup. I had the enjoyment of being out with friends and I didn't spend a lot of money or end up with heart burn or stomach aches. Just not worth it.

I got tested for my food allergies and found I was allergic to wheat. I went to eating six small meals a day instead of three for a couple years to maintain my blood sugar level. Car fumes really bothered me the first couple years so I would try to be off the roads at rush hour. By bother me...I would have to go to bed and it would take 24 hours to recover. I am chemically sensitive so I only use Simple Green and Glass Plus for cleaning. Dreft for laundry and Palmolive for dishes..Shalimar is the only perfume I can use because it doesn't have something in it that everything else seems to have.

It may all seem restrictive but after awhile it becomes a way of life and in many ways makes life simpler actually. You don't have to buy all that darn worthless junk. I didn't follow anyone's plan, just took in everyone's ideas and tried things and decided for myself what seemed to be best for me.

Oh, I could go on and on. I'll check back to see how your doing.

Rae



 
Old 01-09-2003, 06:27 PM   #9
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elephantlvr...I just wanted to add that this is what I felt the Nizoral and no yeast diet did for me.

My skin cleared completely up.
I no longer had bloating, gas and digestive problems, constipation etc. Real regular every day for 15 years unless I get sick, cold or dental infection messes me up.
My ear canals quit itching.
My vision got better and I no long had those black floaters and film across my eyeballs.
My nails became smooth, clear and healthy looking.
No more vaginal itching.
My periods became normal and regular, no more bad odor and discharge.(Unknown to me before this)
Much reduced pains and cramps. Goodbye painkillers, emergency room hypos and calling perimedics when I passed out on the floor at work.
No more night sweats.

Ugh, sounds like another one of those testimonials your already sick of!!!But all these things made my life happier.



 
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DoRaeMe, I really feel for you on this one. I love food and can't imagine having to give it up. But I have to be careful because I have found myself having problems with certain foods in the past few years. I love fruit but most of them are out of the question now. Also like you I am sensitive to chemicals and I have started using only baking soda, vinegar, small amounts of borax, and liquid castile soap to clean with. It's amazing because my house is just as clean, it costs pratically nothing, and I don't get headaches and feel like crap anymore. Even though I don't have a problem with yeast affecting my health, I still found the Yeast connection very very informative. Infact I follow some of the advice just to make sure I don't develop problems. It's really interesting that I was able to make my excema go away and almost never have a flare up anymore. I am a true believer that alot of health problems are caused by our surroundings and can be prevented or improved by making a few changes in our everday life. Doctors are great and I have a lot of respect for them, but I also like knowing that by taking charge of my life I don't have to visit them very often.

 
Old 01-10-2003, 01:14 PM   #11
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Well, I've been off the amoxil for one day, took the last nizoral last night.
I already feel the signs of an infection. Itchy, yellow discharge, etc.

I think this shows that the nizoral did not help me. I think only the amoxil was helping. I did not feel better until I started the amoxil. I was taking the nizoral for a day or two before and did not feel any improvement.

I called the urologist office and asked to be called if they have an cancelations before my appt on Wednesday. I think I will be totally miserable by then.

Just have to hang on till Wednesday. I'm hoping she will help me.

I also have IBS, so I can't eat a whole lot of foods because they upset my digestive system.

elephantlvr

 
Old 01-10-2003, 03:26 PM   #12
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oh good, I hope you get in soon. I didn't know you had IBS. Maybe best to stick to bland foods until things get better. You might get some Ensure to suppliment your diet. I like the strawberry flavor and pour it over ice. Its easy on the stomach.

I'm curious about your taking Amoxil and Nizoral at the same time. Amoxil is an antibiotic which is knocking out the infection and I wonder if the Nizoral is less effective taken at the same time. I don't know. I never started the Nizoral until I was done with the antibiotic and when that was done I would take the ?? whatever it was for the Giardia infection. However recently I read that there is not medication you can take to get rid of Giardia or Cryptosporidium so now I wonder what he gave me. Time to dig out the medical records.

Are you boiling your drinking water? As I understand it, Giardia and Cryptosporidium is in the drinking water. They pass through most peoples system within a month but if you have a compromised immune system they can set up an infection in you. It's a vicious cycle. Antibiotics increase your yeast and fungal level, if you have a compromised immune system it's harder for the body to get back in balance so you need antifugal and after die off, the Giardia proliferate. That's what happens to me.

After I was on the Nizoral for a couple weeks my stomach and bowels settled down. At first my urine was bright gold (from die off I believe) but gradually became clear and discharge stopped.

I hope you get some answers soon. Please let us know, I for one am really interested. Take Care.

 
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Doe-
What is the connection you see between yeast and the dental problems? (You mentioned some correlation and exacerbation in your post - what is it?)

 
Old 01-11-2003, 09:28 AM   #14
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Merrida..hummm, I can't see where I mentioned about dental fillings but maybe my eyes are blurry from being on the computer too long last night.

Part of my treatment plan was to get checked for mercury toxicity since I had some very large mercury amalgam fillings. I went to two specialists and they confirmed that and recommended I have all my fillings replaced with composite. Long story about my teeth but I decided to have the teeth pulled. Roy Huggins did the research and has written some books on the subject about how the mercury fillings affect our health. I was convinced. Once I got those big bad boys out of my mouth a lot of my health problems got better and I no longer had the excessive salvatation and drooling all over my bed at night like I had done since I got the fillings as a kid.

Do you have mercury amalgam fillings? Any problems?

 
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Hey, excessive salivation and drooling are all signs of mercury toxicity, so you did the right thing.

 
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