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Old 09-26-2008, 02:34 PM   #16
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Re: Glabrata yeast

Alexis, the garlinase is not irritating to me at all. I tried terazol last summer (infection #1) and it did not help. 3 months later gynazole 1 took care of it, but after I used the garlic.
Meanwhile...an update on me. I am on fire again. I almost started crying today why me???? I always think of what a good girl I have been (LOL) and how many of my friends have not, why don't they have these problems (I know bitter). So last night I used a gynazole. I also just started taking itraconazole for 7 days oral.
This is a nightnare.

Gynazole 1 is a one day internal cream that sticks to your walls so you can put it in anytime. Ask your doctor for a prescription it is worth a try.

Do you have children??? I get very afraid I will never be able to have any with this situation going on!

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Old 09-26-2008, 06:04 PM   #17
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Re: Glabrata yeast

Hi,

I too have been struggling from (almost constant) Reaccurant yeast infections for over 2 years (atleast every 2 weeks for 2 years if not more)...its seems to be the same story as well. I took erythramycin for about 12 months for very mild acne, got a yeast infection and really havent gotten back to normal since.

I have pretty much done everything under the sun in regards to my yeast infections. I have seen 3 OBGYNS, 1 dermatologist and 1 neurologist (this was back in the begining and was recommended by and OBGYN that told me she could no longer help me.) Anyway, Ive done allergic yeast shots and drops/every antifungal that I know of. NOTHING works long term for me.

I eat NO sweets, no alcohol, as this turns out to be torture if I do. At one time I cut out all dairy, molds etc but didnt really see a difference with that. Diet has played the largest role and getting by. Ive taken Diflucan, nystatin oral and vaginal... at the moment I cant think of all the rest but trust me in this 2 year stint i have taken all of the well known ones. I dont think anything applied vaginally will help long term other than make make the infection go away for about a week until it comes back again because I ate a cracker or something.

Other than that the only thing that has truly made any difference is FIVELAC (threelac didnt work for me when I tried it about a year and a half ago) And raw garlic swallowed about 3 cloves daily. At this point I couldnt care less that I smell like a garlic factory. OTC oderless garlic supplements didnt work for me.

Anyway, Im just amazed that Im still in this situation...and that we can send people to the moon, etc...and still sitting around with a yeast infection for 2 years that no one can fix....This is CRAZY!

Im convinced that my vaginal yeast infections are a byproduct of intestinal yeast overgrowth of which some doctors say dont exist. At this point if I catch a doctor telling me this again I might just punch them in the face. Trust me it is real.

Anyway, I wish there was something else to do...research to sign up for....anything. I'll take any advice aswell.

 
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:04 AM   #18
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Hi KB. I know it is unbelievable that there is nothing for us! And other species of yeast are becoming a real problem. Its sad that the pharm companies and researchers don't care more about this.
So...you've tried gynazole, itraconazole, boric acid, hydrogen peroxide douches etc???
I am seeing a nutritionist. Also no sweets, candy, alcohol, or coffee. I guess coffee is HORRIBLE but tea is ok. (acid vs. alkaline)
try to take a table spoonful of apple cider vinegar in water before your meals, make your system more alkaline.

I find my situation odd because I was clear for 11 months (Oct 07-August 08) I didn't take any antiobiotics, etc....and the glabrata came back with a vengenance at the end of August. Not sure why.... maybe because I went back to a lot of my old eating habits. I'm obviously not "recurrent" but I get this strain that is so hard to treat! And ladies, coffee is really detrimental.
Anyway as of yesterday I inserted a gynazole 1 and started on a week of itraconazole 2x a day. So far its helping lol. But I'm sure it will come back as soon as I stop.
One good thing about the diet is that I've lost 10 pounds this past month and havent done any cardio! However, I don't need to lose any more weight so my nutritionist has me drinking oils. This condition is sending me into debt but I don't care. I will spend every penny to get better.

There is an antifungal called Zalain (sp?) that is supposed to hit all strains of yeast. I believe they use it in other countries. It comes in a vaginal tablet and cream. I currently am researching this.

Lastly are you also late 20's early 30s? I've read this often manifests them?
And also yeah they mentioned neurologist with me too. Because of the burning. However I know it is not a neurologic condition because I was clear for those 11 months after the gynazole. I am supposed to see a specialist in Rochester December 2nd. I will be going crazy by then.

 
Old 09-28-2008, 10:14 AM   #19
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Hi, I have taken all the meds you listed gynazole, Boric acid, etc. and also alot of other ones that werent listed. I have not heard of Zalin though. (this is a cream applied topically?) You will have to let me know if you find out more about it and if it works for you. The only thing I have not done that you mentioned is the apple cider vinegar...which I will probably go out and get today. Also I have been checked for diabetes, thyroid, stds and HIV. I dont mean to freak you out but def get checked for HIV as chronic yeast infections can be the first signs of the onset of this disease.

After dealing with this for quite some time I can say that I have found ways to make this ordeal more managable...and you are correct no sweets, candy, etc. I would be sure to eliminate any complex carbs as well to include muffins, white bread, crackers, pasta...and the list could go on forever. For me...its easier just to say no bread because almost all bread has sugar. Im sure you know this leaves us little to actually eat, especially if you have to go out to eat. I wouldnt eat any fruit either...if it tastes sweet (whatever it is) dont eat it.

I understand the frustration of treating your sypmtoms only for them to return as soon as that treatment is over. This is exactly why I think that you could spend countless amount of dollars treating your symptoms rather than fixing the problem internally. Obviously Im not a doctor but theres got to be a reason why it keeps coming back. Do you usually get relief from your treatment? Feeling pretty much back to normal then it comes back in about a week? This is what happens to me.

Theres plenty of reasons why yours could have come back though. I was told that if I do get better I will have to monitor eating habits, sleep, etc forever. I will have to take probiotics for the rest of my life. I will never take antibiotics again unless Im in some life or death sitution.

Anyway, have you tried Fivelac or threelac? It is a powder substance that I take several times a day and is kinda expensive about $60 a box (fivelac is more expensive than the three) This has done wonders for me. As long as I take this and dont eat any bad stuff I feel MUCH better. I can go a whole day and not think about it every waking second. Your supposed to introduce new things into your diet and this is usually when I begin to have problems. Last time I ate a blueberry muffin and paid for it for about a week and a half. Anyway, I would highly recomend the fivelac (trust me I was sceptical too) But if your like me I'll do anything to get control of this. Also if you do get it I take much more than they say to. Atleast three little packets a day and usually about 30 min before each meal. You also have to get it online I havent been able to find it in a healthstore.

Also, have you tried to eat raw garlic? I know this is going to make you smell terriable and probably want to throw up while your trying to get it down but it works WAY better than any garlic tab, capsule or supplement. The same reason it smells is why it works so any kind of oderless garlic wont be effective. Its the allicin in the garlic (which is the garlic smell) which kills yeast. I take garlic every night atleast a whole clove or two and this has helped me tremendously. Yes, you will smell...but I figure whatever at this point you just smell like you been cooking all day or something. I rather smell like garlic for the rest of my life than never get better.

I'll be sure to share any other stuff I find, meds, supplements etc. I am very interested to hear about your specialist too as i live in NY and would be able to go aswell.

Also you asked about my age. I am 26 and been dealing with this for almost three years now...so since I was 23. I can say I am better off today ( symptoms etc) than I was three years ago. I used to cry almost every day because it was so bad. So I do think theres hope for us. Let me know if your making any progress.

 
Old 09-28-2008, 09:46 PM   #20
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Re: Glabrata yeast

I am in the process of doing a yeast cleanse right now...but just wanted to mention that it sounds like you guys might have a yeast overgrowth (thats what I am working on clearing out now) anyways to get rid of it you need to go on a yeast cleanse diet (they say 4-6 months), but sometimes it can take up to 2 years or more to clear out of your system. The lady at the health food store recomended candi-gone which I have just started and I was already taking oil of oregano. The lady at the health food store said that for persisitant yeast overgrowth you may need to use the candi-gone (or another) kit 3 or 4 in a row back to back.

The diet recommended on my instruction sheet (I have been eliminating alot of stuff) says to eliminate all:

Eliminate all sugar intake, including artificial sweeteners ( I use stevia)
Eliminate all foods with yeast (I am including all wheat and white flour as well)
Alcohol, pop, coffee, fermented beverages and ciders
condiments, sauces and vinegar products ( mayo, pickles etc)
all fruit fresh,dried and canned no fruit juice
mushrooms and fermented foods such as soy sauce, tofu, saurkraut
cheese and sour milk products (except natural yogourt) butter milk etc
all nuts except raw almonds and seeds

It doesnt look like there is alot left but you do get used to it and if it works I am willing to try anything

if you search the internet for systemic yeast you will get alot of info.

also I have heard that the prescriptions dont clear this out it has to be a cleanse

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Old 09-29-2008, 07:08 AM   #21
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Re: Glabrata yeast

Hi Stacey,

So how are you doing now???

No, no kids.

Is the garlinase only avaialable online? I tried a few vitamin stores by me and no one carries it.

I have been using yogurt along with a femdophilous and applying that directly for the past few nights and it is helping some.

I do think that it is an intestinal issue as well, since when I took the oral nystatin all my bloating went away magically.

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Alexis, the garlinase is not irritating to me at all. I tried terazol last summer (infection #1) and it did not help. 3 months later gynazole 1 took care of it, but after I used the garlic.
Meanwhile...an update on me. I am on fire again. I almost started crying today why me???? I always think of what a good girl I have been (LOL) and how many of my friends have not, why don't they have these problems (I know bitter). So last night I used a gynazole. I also just started taking itraconazole for 7 days oral.
This is a nightnare.

Gynazole 1 is a one day internal cream that sticks to your walls so you can put it in anytime. Ask your doctor for a prescription it is worth a try.

Do you have children??? I get very afraid I will never be able to have any with this situation going on!

 
Old 09-30-2008, 03:00 AM   #22
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oh I totally believe it lives in your intestines. I had an infection a year ago and I cured it, then it came back this past August. I didn't take antibiotics or anything, so where was it? Probably in my intestines.
Since thursday, I have used two gynazole 1 (one thur and one yesterday) and I am taking oral Itraconazole 200 mg a day. So far the burning has gone away.
I had a depressing weekend...had a cold...and then was going through the "why me" thing. I worry about my relationship, my future, etc. I wanted to have kids, but you're even more predisposed to yeast during pregnancy, soo......
So the oral nystatin helped some? I have never taken that. I have taken vaginal nystatin (summer 2007). It helped but it did not cure it.

Yeah maybe try online for the garlinase. I also am seeing a nutritionist, preparing to do a liver flush.
He has me drinking kefir mixed with a half tablespoon of msm powder and a half a teaspoon of glutamine powder twice a day on an empty stomach. I love the kefir. I am also taking a teaspoon of cod liver oil with meals 2x a day. Today I start on a new regimen, which does include physicians strength oil of oregano.

Alexis so what else have you tried for this?

 
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:58 AM   #24
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Hey Stacy,

So you feel all better? No symptoms left?

I have tried difllucan (didn't help), terazol (helped some), and now nystatin. I think the oral nystatin is getting rid of it everywhere else excpet the vj.

How did you find out about the garlinase?

Alexis

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Old 09-30-2008, 03:17 PM   #25
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Oh no burning came back with a vengance today at work. I was in tears in front of a classroom of kids. So I called the specialist (who I am supposed to see December 2) and luckily he just had a cancellation so I will be going Oct 7. However I am so much on fire I nearly had a breakdown. So I guess now I am resistant to gynazole too!!! What else is left? After speaking with the nurse at the specialists office, I am under the impression he tries to treat resistant yeast with a very high initial dose of diflucan (750 or 800 mg) then a couple weeks of a lower dose? Has anyone ever heard of this?

I am also seeing a nutritiaonist...has me drinking kefir (which I love) mixed with 1/2 tablespoon of msm powder and glutamine. I am taking probiotics which is not seeming to help. I am also taking two teaspoons of cod liver oil with meals daily to up my immune.....
Alexis, a nurse told me about the garlinase. Have you ever tried boric acid???
You've been dealing with this for 2 years???? Have you ever been to a specialist???
I'm about to move out of my boyfriends house and become a nun...seriously I feel so bad for him!

 
Old 10-01-2008, 07:02 AM   #26
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Stacey,

There are other stuff...just stronger...like ketokonazole, fluco something or other which I read someone on this board got cured with.

I have heard of stronger dose diflucan. The only thing with that is that I think that you have to have tests done to make sure you are tolerating it.

Sounds like you have a good doc who is trying different things though which is great. My gyn is doign the same thing.

No, haven't tried the boric acid...been too scared to, but I think it might be time. A specialist...well an infectious disease guy who is very well respected and he gave me voriconizole which didn't help.

Alexis

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:41 AM   #27
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Try the boric acid. Product is called yeast arrest. That will come up with the pills that contain boric acid.
Voriconazole did not work? Was the dose high enough? I have read that with glabrata the initial dose is very very important. In other words taking voriconazole 2x a day 100mg or 200mg may not do it, but higher initial doses will.
So you did see a specialist?
I am seeing a specialist in Rochester Tuesday. He is supposed to be very good so we'll see. I am hopeful.
It is ridiculous that nothing will take away this burn.
I believe that last summer the only reason why the gynazole cured it is because of all the things I did before to weaken it (boric acid, nystatin, etc). boric acid does help.

What a nightmare!

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Old 10-06-2008, 08:51 AM   #28
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Hey Stacey,

No, the voriconizole didn't work. I had tried it a while ago, so I don't remember the dose, but it was enough to give me plenty of dizziness. And on top of it, it was super expensive for a one or two week dose. I also checked to see...and yup I have tried the gynazole 1 before (unsucessfully).

Yeah, that doc wasn't a yeast specialist but a top infectious disease person. Went to a few other people too...one of which told me glabrata wasn't a pathogen and to not treat it and that its all hype...since she had done research on it herself. So...in that sense I am sticking with my new gyn who knew to test to test for it and is trying multiple things to cure it.

There is someone in NY...a yeast specialist. I want to say his last name is Warren? Someone had made a recommendation before.

I believe what you say about a bunch of things to weaken it. Some of the stories I read about cures...all deal with the women trying this and that and eventually the glabrata goes away.

I just tried the yogurt (organic, low sugar) last week and I do believe it helped some. Tried it four days in a row...alongside the nystatin oral.

Alexis

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Hey Stacey,

Any new developments with the new specialist for the glabrata?

Alexis

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Old 10-10-2008, 03:18 PM   #30
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Hey yes, I meant to get in touch earlier but I was busy. Specialist wants to culture me again and send it to the hospital he works at to get a definitive diagnosis for him. He seemed very knowledgeable and spent about an hour with me. Currently I am using the yeast arrest, which I got online and it is cheap (boric acid). It helps. Also, is it true that glabrata takes a long time to culture out? I am fearful it will not culture out.
He also taught me how to culture myself so on a day where I am very symptomatic I can culture myself and walk it right into the lab.
Fluconazole and diflucan are the same thing....one is the generic....were you treated with that before? For how long and what dose?
I am thinking about trying Via Viente (found online). Its supposed to be a natural way to make your body more alkaline, which I guess is what we need.

The specialist also told me of a study with 300 women, 100 who never got yeast inf, 100 who sometimes did, and 100 who frequently did with severe symptoms. They were all colonized with the same amount of yeast. The 100 women who never get yeast didn't complain of any symptoms, the second group had mild symptoms that went away, and the last group had severe symptoms and had to be treated. That confirms a lot of what I had always thought. I am super sensitive...its not like I'm gushing yeast (that's the problem, no discharge at all)
Anyway, how are you doing??? what are you doing now?

 
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