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Posted by Alan S. on November 04, 2000 at 16:01:47:

In Reply to: Re: cancer runs in family. can anyone help me with diet posted by Rick H on November 03, 2000 at 16:30:01:

: : : : : Cancer runs in my family,my mum, uncle and all grandparents have died of it. Im 27,a smoker and starting to feel like I'm doomed. The more stressed I get about it, the more I smoke. I guess theres only so much I can do, and I suppose I'm being positive by looking for prevention now rather than a cure later on. I have improved my died significantly to include fruit,fish and salad on a daily basis as well as swimming 3/4 times a week. Are there and specific nutritional supplements or additional sorts of food that anyone can recommend?

: : : : : Hope this doesnt seem trivial, as I know there are a lot of people reading this who are in a bad way.

: : : : : Thanks in advance

: : : : : Julian

: : : : First, what is your families bloodtype and what is yours? Second, you need to quite smoking, which I'm sure you are well aware of. Third, I would recommend that you adopt a very low carbohydrate diet. Why? Because cancer cells must have glucose (bloodsugar) to survive and grow. Any carbohydrate you take in except for fiber eventually gets turned into glucose. By keeping your bloodsugar levels low on this type of diet, you essentially starve any potential cancer cells. The carbohydrates that you do eat should be things like green leafy vegetables and low sugar berries, all of which provide many good antioxidants without all of the unnecessary sugars (carbs). Fourth, avoid all un-natural fats in your diet, in particular partially hydrogenated vegetable oils. Finally, I recommend that you get and read "Protein Power" or "The Protein Power Lifeplan". Alan S.

: : : Alan,

: : : When you recommend a low carbohydrate diet, do you feel the same if someone eats whole grains instead of the processed grains sold to us in stores? Aren't whole grains converted to glucose and/or some other form differently such as they are more nutritious and better for us? I'm not sure of the details, and I would have to do research on it, but I believe there is significant difference between eating whole grains and highly refined processsed grains. Whole grains are the natural grains such as wheat berries, brown rice, flax seed, millet (hulled), and natural oats for example.

: : : Rick H.

: : From what I have read, a carbohydrate is a carbohydrate, unless it is fiber. It's true that whole wheat contains more fiber than white flour, but not much (just look at the nutrition info on a bag of flour, stone ground whole wheat has about 3 gm fiber and 22 gm of digestible carbohydrate vs. 1 gm fiber and 22 gm carb for white flour). All carbhydrates except fiber get turned into glucose (bloodsugar) for use as fuel or eventually into triglycerides for storage in the fat cells if there is an excess for the bodies energy requirements. In addition, many autoimmune disorders (Celiac disease, Crohns disease, Rhumetoid Arthritis, etc.) have been traced to the consumption of ceral grains, and in particular wheat and corn. Think about it, would our pre-agricultural ancesters have eaten any significant quantity of ceral grains? Not likely. And that is the problem. Our bodies have not had enough time to adapt to diet based primarily on ceral grains. In your previous statement you mentioned wheat berries? Not sure what that is. Also, if you look at the nutrient list for ground flax seed, you will see that all of the carbohydrate content is fiber. Alan S.

: Alan and anyone else interested:

: I believe that there is significant difference in eating whole grains over eating grains that have been highly processed. I'll have to do research on it. I read about these things (sometimes many years previous) and catalog in my mind the importance of one kind of food or another for better health and cancer preventation. But, it has been sometime since that I have looked into those details.

: People often read about whole grains, and most don't have a clue what that means. The reason is most of us here in the United States have not been exposed to "whole" grains for the most part, so we don't know what is meant by that. It is our culture of eating habits (particularly the past hundred years), instilled upon us since we were very young. Brown rice is actually the natural rice that has the outer covering and all the other interior components together. This would be considered a whole grain. White rice is not actually a variety of rice as some would believe, but it is brown rice that has been stripped of this outer covering. Most of the nutrition is in this outer surface. That is why they have to enrich this rice afterwards with vitamins, because they in essence have reduced the white rice to a processed incomplete food (i.e, a "non-whole" grain).

: Wheat berries are the natural wheat seeds that have not been processed. I buy these in 25 lbs. bags, and use my Vita Mix (heavy duty food blender) to grind up the seeds into a natural flour. This form of fluor is only stable for about one or two days, so you must eat this somewhat quickly. White flour, just like white rice, has the bran (the outer surface) stripped away through processing. White flour apparently is much more stable and last for months in this fashion. But, it is a very poor substitute for the natural wheat berry seed flour.

: In summary, these are two examples of "whole" grains. They are just the natural seed products that come from grass type plants. Whole grains have been eaten by mankind for thousands of years. For example, the Bible references wheat many times. I understand Millet was a very popular grain, centuries ago in Europe, but now it is used a lot in bird seed here in the United States.

: Alan or any of you out there: It would be good that we spend some time investigating this further. I definitely will spend some time with this, because I suspect that cancer preventation can greatly be improved by doing this research.

: If anyone finds that my writings are in error, please let me know. I'm just writing this at my lunch hour at work without looking up any of this in my reference books.

: Thanks Alan and thanks to all that spend the time trying to find ways to keep us from going to the doctor in the first place. We can (statistically) reduce cancer, and a host of other diseases if we just spend the time trying to live a healthier lives by changing our lifestyles to positive ones.

: Rick H.

I agree that humans have been eating wheat and other grains for thousands of years. Actually on the order of 8000-10,000 years. The problem is that the 100,000 to 200,000 years prior to this, humans did not eat any significant grains in their hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Our genes today are approximately 99.9% identical to the genes of our pre-agricultural ancesters. There just has not been enough time for the human body to fully adapt to ceral grains as a primary foodsource. There is a whole host of ailments that have been attributed to wheat and other grains. And these have really nothing to do with whether it is whole grain or not, but it is the bodies response to the grain proteins that causes the problems. Off the top of my head I can think of arthritis, Crohn's disease, Celiac disease, and leaky-gut syndrome that are caused or aggravated by eating ceral grains, whole or not. And like I said before, whole grain is definitely better than high processed flours, but it still has it's drawbacks. Alan S.

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