Re: Mike, Will you please help me???
Re: Mike, Will you please help me???
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Posted by Jennifer
on November 22, 2000 at 17:05:06:
In Reply to: Re: Mike, Will you please help me??? posted by Liz..to MIKE....THANK YOU VERY MUCH on November 11, 2000 at 12:19:46:
: : : Hi Mike, I was reading once of your responses to someone and you talked about Slimsense. Can you tell me what it is, and how it works best? and where i can purchase it? I used xenadrine for a while and lost 25 pounds with it, but i feel like i dont want to continue becuase you hear of so many sudden deaths assosiated with the ma huang. thanks in advance.
: : Hello Mary. First of all, I want to say that I come to this and other forums to inform, basically to tell the TRUTH, regarding some of the weight loss products that work and don't work. This is just based on my opinion and expertise, which is comes from 20 years working in the health and fitness industry and 16 working as a personal trainer. So, let me first say that ma huang in any form or another, ie. ephedra, is perfectly safe IF you are in good health.
: : Ephedra or ma huang herb (ephedra contains about 2% by weight of the whole herb) has been used by the Chinese for over 5,000 years for resporatory diseases due to its bronchodilating effects. Nowadays, for example, asthma patients use it as well, for everything form the common cold to weight loss.
: : As for the reported "deaths" due to ephedra usage, the Food and Drug Administration reports that only a "handful of deaths" reported from the useage of ephedra products. What the media and the FDA do not tell you, is that most of these deaths are not from ehpedra alone, but MOST of these patients had pre-existing health conditions, and others were simply taking above the recommended doseage. There have been more people who have died or suffered permanent health damage from taking too much asprin!
: : Thermogenic products containing ephedra today, also contain guarna--herbal form of caffeine, and white willow bark--herbal form of asprin. This is a proven fat loss ergogenic aid and is perfectly safe when taken at the recommended amounts. Besides, ephedra is hardly even effective on its own then when it combined with other products such these. Once again, the media does not tell you this. What they also don't tell you about many of these "dangerous" herbs, is that the FDA cannot control or regulate the useage of natural herbs, ONLY pharmaceutical drugs. Can you see the connection....?
: : Anyway, ephedra is not the problem here. Society simply needs to learn moderation and portion control with EVERYTHING! I stand strongly behind ephedra. If I truly did not feel this product was safe, I would not let my clients, or myself and family members, take ANY product containing it. Anyway, I hope this answers your question regarding ephedra. If you need more info. you can get it at ephedrafacts.com.
: : Now to your next question, I'm not going to say anything negative regarding Xenadrine, only that I know people who have used it and felt, let's say 'weird'. The only product I use for myself and my clients is by Slimsense. If you live in Colorado you can get it at GNC. If not you can purchase it online. All I can say is it produces great results. I'm not trying to sell the stuff, just trying to help since you asked. Anyway, good luck to you with whatever you decide. Just remember moderation is key to long term success!
: Hi Mike. I just wanted to THANK YOU very much for your posts about ephedra. I use a dietary supplement that contains all the above mentioned herbs and I am SO SICK OF EVERYONE FREAKING OUT ABOUT EPHEDRA. Everytime you mention that you are taking a product containing this, people jump all over you. Everyone assumes that because someone takes a product containing ephedra, then he/she comes up with a health problem, then RIGHT AWAY the ephedra is to blame. Anyway, thanks again for your post.
The reason that everyone 'freaks out' about ephedra is that it is bad for you. I don't know what Mike's credentials are but he should not be giving out medical advice. Last time I checked personal trainers were not pharmacists or doctors.
As far as the FDA regulation of these products, they cannot because of a law that was made banning their involvement in any natural supplements. This should mean to you that they are the most unsafe products on the market. They are not required to have the ingredients that they have in their labelled strength. They may be adulterated because the manufacturers are not requrired to have quality control. There is no reqirement that they undergo clinical testing to determine if they are safe. The owner of the largest ma huang product does not even know what is in it. The whole thing is unbelievable and I am not sure where Mike was heading with the FDA and pharmaceutical reference. The fact that it is not regulated is so much worse.
Ma Huang may not cause short term effects in healthy people, but it is a natural substance that acts the same way as 'speed' or methamphetamine. It causes damage to the heart muscle that is irreversible. Over time it will not matter how healthy you are. Name me one speed freak that makes it to old age. NONE. Just think about it before you risk your health to lose a few pounds. I have heard of people having numerous side effects to Ma Huang, including seizures.
Please don't listen to Mike. I feel sorry for his clients. There is no better way to lose weight than diet and exercise. Both of those can also prevent health problems including heart disease. Do something good for yourself...do not take any product with ma huang. Is it really worth it?