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Re: Dear Thanbey

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Posted by Leona on September 12, 2000 at 00:50:33:

In Reply to: Dear Leona, posted by thanbey on September 11, 2000 at 14:28:05:

A sclerologist reads the whites of the eyes paying attention to the veins on the white area as these can indicate any health problems. Here's an experience on just how accurate it is: My friend had her eyes read and it showed up that she had a problem in her left breast and her liver was not funtioning well. My freind did not tell the sclerologist about any health problems that she already had.It was accurate as she had a lump in her breast, and she had Hep C, both of these problems she already knew she had. I had my eyes read also, I had recently been admitted to hospital for accute lead poisoning, I also did not reveal my current conditions. Well my liver was taking a beating from the poisoning, this she picked up within about 10 seconds.she also picked up my fibroids on my uterus.
Hepatitis is a virus is it not? the dates of recognition of Hepatitis C are irrelevent to colloidal silver, as viruses, bacteria, and fungus cannot survive where silver is present.This has been known for many years.
I agree with your recommendation that these results be reported to a research center.
I assure you that I never discouage anyone from seeking sound medical advice, on the contrary I would encourage anyone who is unsure of their complaint to seek medical diagnosis first and foremost, and then if they wish to try this alternative it's their own choice if they wish to do so. No I do not sell this product.

: : :It does not surprise me that any hepatologist would even consider this product for treatment of hepatitis C as it is a natural product! and therefore goes against conventional medicine. I did not claim that colloidal silver kills the hepatitis C virus, I was merely reasoning on the facts, however I do know of someone that had advanced Hep C who had been using colloidal silver with excellent results. Prior to it's use, this person was having up to 4 night sweats a night with at least 1 major one that required a full bedding change, he also was very tired most of the time, he couldnt play with his children as it was too exhausting, 10 minutes in the garden was a full days work. Within 5 days he was reporting a reduction in night sweats, by the 8th day he reported no night sweats at all which was a relief to his wife as she says it was driving her mad.He had renewed energy and had become more active.He had also gained a healthy amount of weight which he really needed as he was underweight. One month later he seen a Sclerologist who reported that the liver was repairing itself.He continues to improve.My question you quoted back to me to which you answered "no" "has anyone had success with this product" Leonard Mullen put a post on the Hep C board dated 11/19/99 entitled, "My son cured of Hepatitis C" to which you yourself answered.The blood tests that showed no Hep C after being diagnosed some months earlier are encouraging to Hep C sufferers.You wanted me to prove that it is safe and effective?The F.D.A. have taken care of that request: Sept.13,1991,letter written by the Food and drug administration's consumer safety officer, Harold Davis, states that Colloidal Silver, considered to be a pre 1938 drug, "may continue to be marketed without submitted evidence of safety and effectiveness (required of all prescription drugs marketed after 1938) as long as they are advertised and labeled for the use as in 1938"


: Unbeknownst to you , Leona, hepatology has been taking a large interest in complimentary therapies. there is even a book out by Robert Gish, a reknown Hepatologist, and Misha Cohen, a TCM practiitioner. On our board, We have Dr. Dan Labriola of Seattle, a very well respected Naturopath.
: I have never heard of a Scerologist. But, I haven't heard of everything. What is a Sclerologist? And how do they determine whether the liver is healing itself? The only sure way to know that is a liver biopsy. No other test of any kind will be able to tell you that your liver is healing itself.
: Do Sclerologists perform biopsies? Do they work WITH allopathic practioners?

: The NIH has complimentary studies ongoing (Dr. Seef) and have found that milk thistle may have benefit. At the very least , the have found that it is not harmful. I know hepatologists who prescribe a number of "alternative" approaches. But they are tried on a case by case basis after having gathered information through the approriate testing and evaluation.

: In 1938 (and for that matter, 1991!), Hepatitis C was unknown. So, what condition(s) is coloidal silver approved for? It may be safe or even have some effect on those conditions, but for someone with liver disease even so called safe substances can be deadly if not monitored by a licensed practitioner knowledgable about hepatitis C.

: Lastly, the improvements to people's health sounds good. Weight gain, decreased fatigue are good things. Attributing to colloidal silver, or even assuming this has meaning beyond those improvements is a dangerous assumption to make. Many people with very advanced liver disease due to hepatitis C have NO symptoms at all. To discourage them from seeking sound medical advice is not helpful.

: People who believe this stuff has caused liver improvement should report it to a research center so that it can be investigated. But experimenting on your own is very risky because the liver can take a great deal of abuse before failing.

: You never answered my question: do you sell this stuff? You have posted its benefits for other conditions also.

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: thanbey
: www.hcop.org


: : The evidence is that no hepatologist has recommended this as a treatment for hepatitis C. No liver conference I have ever attended has recommended it or shown any evidence whatsoever that this substance kills the virus as you claim.
: : : None of the clinical trials currently underway have any interest in this product. It has shown NO evidence of efficacy at all. And it may be harmful to the liver.

: : : Evidence works the other way, Leona, you have to prove it safe and effective, not prove it isn't. You could harm people with liver disease by giving them products that have doubtful safety. The liver processes all the substances the body takes in.
: : : People with liver disease have to be careful what substances they expose themselves to. I think that is important enough to say it strongly.

: : : Remember your question? Has anyone had any success with it? The answer is NO.

: : :
: : : thanbey

: :
: : : :Your post would be helpful to me if you would supply me with the evidence to prove that: "The claim is wrong, Colloidal Silver does nothing at all for hepatitis C" as you so strongly put it.

: : :
: : : :
: : : : : My friend is only 18 yrs old and she has hep c,I have heard that colloidal silver is very effective as it kills viruses, has anyone had success with this product for this ailment?

: : : : : Dear Leona,

: : : : : This claim is wrong. Colloidal silver does nothing at all for hepatitis C and could make your niece feel worse.

: : : : : I hope this helps,

: : : : : thanbey

: : : : : www.hcop.org

: : y evidence whatsoever that this substance kills the virus as you claim.
: : : None of the clinical trials currently underway have any interest in this product. It has shown NO evidence of efficacy at all. And it may be harmful to the liver.

: : : Evidence works the other way, Leona, you have to prove it safe and effective, not prove it isn't. You could harm people with liver disease by giving them products that have doubtful safety. The liver processes all the substances the body takes in.
: : : People with liver disease have to be careful what substances they expose themselves to. I think that is important enough to say it strongly.

: : : Remember your question? Has anyone had any success with it? The answer is NO.

: : :
: : : thanbey

: :
: : : :Your post would be helpful to me if you would supply me with the evidence to prove that: "The claim is wrong, Colloidal Silver does nothing at all for hepatitis C" as you so strongly put it.

: : :
: : : :
: : : : : My friend is only 18 yrs old and she has hep c,I have heard that colloidal silver is very effective as it kills viruses, has anyone had success with this product for this ailment?

: : : : : Dear Leona,

: : : : : This claim is wrong. Colloidal silver does nothing at all for hepatitis C and could make your niece feel worse.

: : : : : I hope this helps,

: : : : : thanbey

: : : : : www.hcop.org




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