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Divine
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posted 12-15-2002 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Divine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
16- "Except to go to the derm then i threw back on my sweat pants and went back to my daily routine.. DOING NOTHING! I cant wait till this gets BETTER..I really want to get back to LIFE!!"


Omg man I can so relate to this. I would basically just SLEEP until my breakouts were over or a pimple was gone, and that could be for days at a time. I soo understand what you mean by wanting to get back to life.


also takeitez posted this: "They reoccur because the pore is already damaged, blocking the path for which the oil can surface. Therefore, the oil gets stuck under the skin and builds up to form a whitehead. then when it becomes infected, it turns into a cysts."

In what way do you mean the pore is damaged? Just wondering? like what happened to it in the first place etc

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posted 12-15-2002 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crandle1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this accutane stuff sounds painful.

for women - have you considered the acne preventing form of the pill? it is called dianette (there is also one called yasmin that is more expensive and has only been around for a couple of months) and you have to give it at least 6 months for it to work properly. so far i'm on my 4th month and at the moment i now never get (touch wood!!!!) and big red or huge "i've hit my head" spots or whiteheads. blackheads are also clearing up. bogstandard zits are becoming fewer and far between. i have not noticed any side-effects (also - this also clears up any spots you may have elsewhere - i used to have lots on my back and upper arms aswell and they have all completely gone) althought i am sometimes a bit more intolerant to cheese than i used to be but my doctor has not confirmed that that could be in any way related to the pill. i strongly recommend you try this, especially those of you that are having second thoughts and doubts about accutane. i'll also keep you posted on how my pill treatment goes so you can compare the two different treatments.


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posted 12-15-2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for willowtree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
21,

Thanks so much for your fabulous Accutane journal. It takes a lot of effort, courage, and energy to keep us updated, especially when there are critics out there; also I know some days you must feel so frustrated you don't even want to log on...

How are things going? I'm curious to hear if you decide to try Spiro (even though sticking to Accutane for a while is probably a good idea.) As you mentioned, it's probably hormonal in part if you break out when ovulating and your estrogen + progesterone are high. My problem is I break out whenever the Forces That Be decide, so I'm not sure Spiro would work for me. The other prob is I REALLY hate the pill (last time it gave me awful hyperpigmentation, which led to me looking like I had a mustache!! Not my best look.) Anyway with Spiro most derms recommend being on the pill as well..grr.

Take care and keep the strength!
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posted 12-15-2002 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 21withacne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
day 65
glad you like my journal-
no new zits. which is a good thing looking forward to seeing the endo and seeing what he has to say about all this. my derm has "selesctive" hearing and thus does not want to listen to anything i have to say that could be hormone related! take care guys and thanks for all the support!

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Personal note for me: hormonal-

-carbs& insulin resistance (gp had diabetes; i crave carsbs; i think i am hypoglysimic (sp?))
-pcos& spiro
-flare bad during ovulation and a little right before my period
-concentrared on lower half of face (face and aroud mouth)
-forehead and upper cheeks and nose clear
-mom has digestion problems and needs to take fiber supplements
-i have the obesity in which i can not lose weight
- i get tired and have cold hands all the time
-when i took the quiz in cosmo ( i know this sounds silly) it diagnosed me as a carb lover and that i need to cut back on these; also described me as having weight in the middle of my body- like an inner tube around the stomach (pcos symptom!)

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day 66
one new white head- on - you guessed it- my chin! yes yes always there! other than that nothing. i am going to see rebecca my esth on wed going home to ny thurs so i dooubt i will write that much while i am home. i will let u know how the endo goes though!

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posted 12-18-2002 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Divine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Day 68
Almost 10 wks and I see noting better. Went to my esthetician, Rebecca, today... love her! She is great and said I have like no oil... hmmm once again I am convinced I do not have an oil problem- must be hormonal. I got a new little red zit under my eye. Rebecca gave me some shots and used the lance. I also started the prednisone today. Ah--- what will ever work? Starting to lose hope with accutane...

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posted 12-19-2002 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TSB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear 21withacne:

Did your dermatologist start you on a low dose of accutane with the intention of increasing it half way threw the treatment? (This is a new approach to treatment to avoid the really terrible acne flare in the beginning)

Or are you on a full dose now (1 mg to every 2 kg of body weight)?

If you are on low dose intitially this may explain why your acne is taking longer to clear.

I was on a full dose from day one (60 mg of accutane and I was 137 pounds) and I went from bad to monsterous in that first 6 weeks or so. It wasn't until I was in month 3 that I saw improvement and by month 4 I was noticably clearer. But really only in the last stage of treatment (last 4 weeks) did I totally clear.


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Day 70
TSB-
I was started at 60mg/day and have continued the same throughout.

My face looks much better now that I got a facial. But I am also on a steroid so maybe that is helping.
No new ones

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Day 73
Have a new large, re-occuring one in between the eyebrows- lovely!
Went to the doctor today and asked about spiro- he said he would give it to me but I want to wait until I am off accutane before starting new meds.
Am going in for blood work to test for thyroid issues. Doc says I do not have hormonal imbalanaces as I do not match the "profile"- whatever that means>?! Very frustrated right now.
Other than that accutane is fine as is the presnidone. Ok I am going to take a nap but will be on later.
Could I be ovulating and that is why I have the new, re-occuring one all of a sudden? Hhmm will check back in my journal to see if this is ovulation time...

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hey whatsup??

I am also on accutane, a few details about me are: i'm a 17 yo male, i weigh 63.5KG, I have a yeast infection on my skin (seborrheic dermatitis (spelling?), have had acne since I was 13/14 so like beginning of puberty I guess. My skin has never really been oiley and I only break out on the lower half of my face really, a few breakouts on my forehead but it tends to stay clear quite well.

My skin is looking so much better now but you're way further into the treatment than I am!! i'm on day 36 of mine at 35mg/day.

My main problem is how much my skin is flaking, the moisturiser I use is non pore blocking and slightly tanning so when I have like practically no red marks it covers then up beautifully and my skin looks clear, but this flaking looks like i'm wearing a beard and moustache of flakey skin!

dunno what to do about it

I'm this close to asking this girl to go out with me and I am about 95% she likes me in that way I made her laugh and stuff last time I saw her and I know she's single so in her texts she always says she loves me, misses me and wants to be with me

well anyways let me know how things go, must be harder being a women coz as a bloke I will prolly grow out of it within a year or two anyways, in fact maybe I am already?

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Day 76
My skin has been looking great- only one zit in between the eyebrows. Also I am using St Ives medicated and love it! I think manybe the accutane is starting to work... afterall it has been 2 and a half months!

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Day 77
New white head on the chin- hmmm must be ovulating?! Think I am. Other than that the one between the eyebrows is not healing yet and I have a date tonite! Grr! It better go away soon! I am fully off prednisone and now just on accutane. Am going to call my derm today to see if I can go on spiro at the same time- my doc here seems to think it is Ok.

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How was your trip to the endo.? What did they do to you?

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Day 79
New little zit on my forehead and thats it- I am ovulating so the zit is to be expected. I called my derm today to see if I could be on both spiro and accutane at the same time. We shall see what he says! I would love to try spiro as recently I only breakout during ovulation and right before my period. My face still gets flustered from the accutane though. Overall my skin does not look bad.

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Day 80
Starting yesterday I am drinking a cup of green tea a day. Ok it tastes gross but I have heard good things about it- sooo!
Other than that no new zits which is nice.
Lips are still dry

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Day 81
I did a mask last night and it did not help much. Had terrible dreams about my skin last night- really horrible. Ummm the one on my forehead is not going away. I hate this!!!!!!! Why won't accutane work? I almost on month 3.
I can feel a new one on my chin forming. I normally get my period around the 8th. Between ovulation-my period I always break out. After that though I am pretty clear! Damn being a girl!! Grrrrr! I am telling you this is hormonal!

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the green tea is pretty sick at first but if u do it EVERYDAY and dont skip a day then you can get used to it.... It doesnt bug me now.. I actually, sort of, somewhere in my mind, like it a little..LOL

The only way it tastes sick is if I forget about it next to my desk then I drink it and its COLD..!! or if it's NOT warm ENOUGH....It has to be HOT for me to drink it and like it

anyway g2g

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Day 82
Got another new zit on my chin!!!!!!! I know I should be getting my period in about a week so I will blame it on this. I am totally convinced I have hormonal acne- I need some spiro and yasmin. Accutane continues to do nothing.

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20....please...even if it is hormonal accutane could still work.... You & me are within 1-2 weeks in the same range in our course right now.... My face JUST barely STARTED to show LITTLE improvments 2 weeks ago... It's not much diff. now.... It takes time... I wouldnt get nervouse or say ACCUTANE IS NOT WORKING unless you have 3 days of the WHOLE course left and your still not "improved" AT ALL.... U know.... I know im only 16 but acne rules my life and I can prove that because I havent left the house in over 2 months...Literally..Im still on that Indep. Study and Im staying on it for the whole year. And I dont plan to leave the house until I look at least decent... im prob. looing at another 2 months or less. And sicne acne rules my lfie I read up on it alot and I know ALOT about it for my age.... Dont loose hope on Accutane yet...I heard of one girl on her Journal where she was all sad and depressed because she wasnt cleared and she had only 1&1/2 weeks left. And in the last week she got MAJOR improvemnt... I know it's stressfull and crazy and all that...But trust me... Accutane TOOK OUT ITS ANGER on me..lol.. MAJOR!!U know about all that cause you and me were posting back and forth throughout that... And Im still going..Barely..lol............ Keep Hope.... Dont even CONSIDER that it might not work...Worry about that when it comes..IF IT COMES...Let's hope not..For both of us...


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Day 84
I have a few new zits in random places: one near my left eye and one on the left side of my face. I never break out in these places- I have no idea what to think anymore. Starting today I made a 6 week long health plan contract with myself. I am not drinking any alcohol or bad carbs. I am upping my intake of fiber and fruit and green tea. I am really losing hope though.

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Day 85
New whitehead on the chin- squeezed it.
New red zit on jaw/chin line- ouch!
Uummm I am PMSing so the zits are to be expected- yeah accutane is not doing **** for me- i am convinced my acne is hormonal.
Bought aqua glycolic today and used it for the first time- doesn't feel like it cleans very deep.... but not harsh at all.. we shall see!

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Day 86
Hhmmm another new one near the mouth. I need to get on sprio- right before my period I always breakout on chin/near mouth/jawline. And I have the reoccuring ones and mirrired ones. I am going to call my doctor tom and see about the perscription. I may even stop accutane altogether and go with spiro- besides accutane really does not help those with hromonal acne so why waste my time and money, right?

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21,

why don't you just give accutane a little more time? you aren't even at month three. so many accutane users don't see good results until month three...or month four....and some people don't even see very good results until they have completed their 5-6 months. i can understand it must be totally frusterating, but it most likely will be good results in the end. everytime you get a zit you say you're ovulating or pmsing. maybe you're just still breaking out. lots of people experience an initial breakout, but it doesn't stop there. they still get breakouts until the treatment is almost over. accutane=patience. and you need a little more patience. forget about spiro and everything else right now. most people who go on accutane have a successful treatment. sure, some people have to take it again...but seriously, most people are pleased with the results. just because you break out around the time of your period doesn't mean your acne is hormonal. that just happens to most girls....period. so stop stressing...and give accutane a better chance. i truly hope it works for you...just be a little more patient. you won't regret it.

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hey 20withacne, it took me 4months (out of a 5month course) before i saw significant improvement in my skin, hang in there.

accutane does not work overnite or over 1 to 3 months in some cases.


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Day 90
Found out yesterday I have hyperthyroidism. And I now know that hyperthyroidism is a disorder in which the thyroid is overactive. When the body is over-flooded with thyroid hormones, they stimulate increased overall metabolism, increased protein metabolism, calcium imbalance, glucose intolerance.

Feel like I am finally getting somewhere with my problem. I will wait and find out what meds I will be put on.

In addition I have a new pimple on my chin and started my period yesterday so hopefully now my skin will calm down as it usually does after I get my period.

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Day 91
My skin looks like crap still and I swear this accutane crap is not working!!!!!!!!!! Just pi$$ed!!!!!!!!!!!

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20 with acne:

I know what you mean about accutane......I've been on it for about 5 yrs. and never been clear....however, I also have lupus and am on a maintenance dose of accutane in relation to that. But I have tried spiro and even that isn't really doing what it should. So now, on the advice of the dermy, I added yasmin.......

only to reasearch one of the other meds I take for lupus and find out that finally acne is listed as a possible side effect.
I am very disheartened and now do not know what to do. I guess maybe I will try to call the dr.
Why don't they just tell you about that....I remember about 4 years ago researching this med and it wasn't listed as a side effect. I pulled up about 3 or 4 sites with it listed as the 3rd one in line.
So I bravely took the yasmin last night....I gave my body estrogen that I haven't had any of since my hysterectomy.....and now I find out it could be caused by the other stupid medicine.....
So this is probably the rest of my life, fighting between the lupus and it's treatment....and the side effects and acne. I am not sure if that is really what is causing it, but now if I drop the lupus med, I won't know if I am breaking out from the yasmin, the lack of this med....or just as usual.
If I stay on the lupus med...I won't know if that's is what is keeping me from feeling better. I hate the days when I have to think all day about what to do..and even then have a hard time making a decision. I really hope the accutane will kick in for you....I hate the waiting game too.

Lots of good luck
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Day 92
Well now that I have my period my skin decides it wants to clear! This is always the way, so for now it is trying to clear...

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hey 21-
i pretty much have a very similar situation- except i went on accutane for 6 months (i think at 80mg/day?)over two years ago when i was a sophomore in college. i went on accutane b/c i saw it as a final solution even though my acne was moderate and random- just too persistent for my taste. basically the first 4 months sucked- my skin got so much worse and really really dry- after i finished my skin was clear for 6 months- then i started breaking out again when i went abroad for 4 months. then i was clear for 6 months. last semester i started breaking out again- i thought it might be hormonal since i only get a deeper zit on my cheek- for some reason only on my lower left cheek too which is bizarre- so i went on ortho- which did nothing. so now ive been off it for almost a month but that doesnt seem to help- im hoping it just needs more time. i might try yasmin b/c it has a lower level of hormones but at this point i want to just either take a semester off and go on accutane again (which is kind of implausible b/c i'm graduating this spring) or just stop everything. i've been on adoxa for over a year but i feel like i have built up a resistance to it- but i dont know- and i dont even think my dermatologist knows (and i have seen MANY dermatologists)- i might get some B5 as that sounds promising- oh yeah in addition i also use avita gel- and have tazorac cream- hmm after reading this posting i feel that i have ODed on treatments- seeing as i also got a microdermabrasion treatment last week and use a 3% glycolic acid facial wash. im also feeling like this posting is not very helpful to you but just a laundry list of my product history- but to try to help you out i would just stay on accutane- if you have already suffered 2 months you might as well just stick it out- and you seem to deal w/ breakouts a lot better than i do so hopefully you will not confine yourself to your room as i did for 1/2 of sophomore year- i would try yasmin if you already havent- but some people (as i feel i do) react adversely to birth control. also- as i too frequently do- cortizone shots at the derm are not a bad option for those random deep zits that appear and just sit there- although i do have an occasional darkened spot where i got the shot it is a nice quick fix when you dont want to have to go to classes for the next week w/ a huge lump on your face. alright well good luck- i hope you have alittle more faith than i do in acne products b/c at this point i dont really know what to do besides hope- everyone tells me its not that bad and just to deal w/ it but they also dont have to wake up each morning praying that a new zit has not surfaced overnight.

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Day 94
my skin is looking good, keeping fingers crossed...

i like the aqua glycolic!
thanks for the advice sporadic!

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Day 97
got a facial the other day and loved it. my skin is broken out on the forehead- a place i NEVER breakout!!! other than that no new cysts which is nice but my lips are very dry. my skin does not look good but only a few active zits.

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Day 100
My skin has been really good for the past few days and I did not want to jinx it, but had to report the good results! I go tp the gym every day which I think may help and I drink green tea every day with a multivitamin.

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Day 101
I think this stuff is finally kicking in! I still do not have a new zit! Very pleased yet still sticking with the multivitamin, green tea, lots of water, and gym routine so not to jinx it! Take care all!

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Day 102
I knew it!! As soon as I report good news- BAM 2 zits on my chin!!!!

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posted 01-23-2003 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 21withacne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Day 103
I popped the one zit last night so now no active ones but my skin still looks like crap But I am trying to be optomisitc about it and think happy thoughts. I put a green tea bag on my face tonight as I drank the tea- eeeww! Other than that just the dry lips. I go to the derm next week for the blood work- I always hate that but hey I am willing to try anything.

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posted 01-24-2003 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 21withacne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
day 104
no new zits yay for me! but i think it is more than just the accutane- i am being healthy too! i was contimplating the urine thing... hmmm!

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posted 01-25-2003 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 21withacne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Day 106
Still going strong w/o any zits (but believe me the red marks still looks like trash!). But overall I am very pleased. Keeping fingers crossed!!

Contuing to go to gym, drink green tea, take vitamins, etc.

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posted 01-30-2003 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 21withacne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Day 110
Ok so I have not been to the gym or had my vitmin or had green tea or accutane (i ran out and am going to the derm tom!) in 4 whole days now. so i have sprouted one new, but small zit. So it is ok but i really want to get back into my rooutine. But classes this week have been crazy and I have been getting like no sleep. I will start my routine up again on Friday.

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