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Kielbasa
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posted 01-05-2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kielbasa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can a male last longer during sex?

I don't even look forward to having sex because I'm so self-conscious about ejaculating so quickly. In fact, I have begun to avoid dating because I'm afraid that eventually things will become intimate and "she" will expect sex ... only to be disappointed. It's totally embarrassing

At this point I would gladly forgo any orgasms of my own if I could go long enough to please my partner.

I can masturbate for hours with out ejaculating, but only seconds during the real thing.

Please, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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posted 01-05-2003 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just let yourself go the first incident you have, sex, jsut settle down fore a bit, build yourself up, and the next time, you'll go some much longer.

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posted 01-06-2003 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silently confident     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try going until almost the point of ejaculation stop then wait a minute or two and continue do this a few times it it will help you develope a longer sex session. think of sex as a set of numbers one through ten. you are going from 1 right to 10 you need to go 1,2,3...,10 so bye stopping and starting you will be able to handle the higher levels of sensation. It works. talk about it with your girl frist.

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posted 01-06-2003 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lady^     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try matrubating before going on a date that way you may not come so quick when with a girl.

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I agree with another post, try masturbating to the point of having an orgasm, then stop for a few minutes, and then start again. it will be hard at first(pun intended) but with practice I think you will find what you are looking for

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posted 01-06-2003 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lady^     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I think he should masturbate and have an orgasm so that he gets that first one out of the way. Then when he's with his girl he should last longer.

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posted 01-06-2003 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wrin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a good method to release tension, Lady^, and will help a lot.

I also suggest you look up a method called the "squeeze" technique, it is a method of gripping your penis during an erection so that you lose your erection, and have to start all over again. This can be done alone, to train yourself to go longer, or if you believe it is an anxiety issue, can be done with your girlfriend present with you playing with her without her knowing what you're doing. (And even if she does know what you're doing or asks what you're doing, I somehow doubt any woman worth your time would have a problem with you trying something so that you last longer in bed.)

And if she doesn't have a problem with it, how about just going more than once?

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posted 01-12-2003 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, this problem can actually start to deter you from creating meaningful relationships-- like a snow ball effect. Loss of self-confidence has to play a major role with sexual performance.

Having relational problems anyway, I worry too much about finding the right girl- then losing out because I'm no porn star when it comes to bedtime. Sounds insane to you? It's true. This way of thought has seriously been injected to me (not only through past experience), but by the way society perceives sexual experience.

Are these the only ways to increase stamina? Has anyone overcome this problem, or has it just been cool as of always?

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Premature ejaculation is a common problem and there is no common solution. I doubt any of the above suggestions would work. However, there are a few prescription solution that your doctor can provide. The most useful is taking a small dose of antidepressants. These drugs often have the side effect of delaying ejaculation sometimes to the point of being unable to finish (which frustrates users). You can just adjust the dose til you find a happy medium. This solution has been shown to work in a large number of men.

Taking viagra has been successful for some men. So that is another alternative. Even if you ejaculate fast you can still get hard again in a short time and try again.

An other alternative is a prescription drug called paroxetine (might be its generic name) [20mg] that works combined with viagra [50mg]. It works in 80% of cases so far. It did improve most mens ejaculation times from about 30 seconds to 5 minutes.

Don't give up there are several proven methods that work. You just need to find the one that works for you.

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posted 01-12-2003 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your suggestion, but force feeding pills shouldn't have to be the answer. I agree that the methods described above wouldn't do much to cure the problem.

Of the men who can last a long time, is it just luck, no anxiety, no stress, no fear, etc... that is playing a role in their abilities? How common is this problem, if it's a common problem?

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It is pretty common for the male to have an "oops" prematurely, during his first encounter or two with a new partner...especially in the early stages of his dating career. It takes time and practice to mature in the bedroom. Sometimes I even wonder if many of the guys who never seem to be able to commit to one partner, might not just be guys who never matured their technique enough to be confident with the same woman.

Anyway...you have to understand that total love making is not merely the act of sexual intercourse. If you have a problem with "oopsing" before your partner has been pleasured...then you just have to make sure that you pleasure her in other ways, before you get inside and "oops". And maybe, just the idea that she has already been pleasured, will take the stress off your mind, so that you can relax and enjoy a longer time inside of her. If not...that will still be allright because she's already been taken care of; and will likely get a thrill out of your quick burst of passion.

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The drug Paroxetine that you mentioned is another name for the antidepressant drug Seroxat. This is very similar to Prozac.

I don't think though that you should be filling yourself full of drugs with potential side-effects - and antidepressants have many, as a solution to this problem. Find the cause rather than just treating the symptoms and you will find a solution.

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Originally posted by madcat:
Of the men who can last a long time, is it just luck, no anxiety, no stress, no fear, etc... that is playing a role in their abilities? How common is this problem, if it's a common problem?


Premature ejaculation is the most common sexual complaint and with a reported frequency of about 30%. So it's pretty common.

Of course any man can go off early if he is excited enough. But premature ejaculation is characterized by the constant inability to hold off. No one knows why this happens. Some speculate its hypersensitive nerves, over sensitive penis, or some chemical imbalance.

What is clear is that it doesn't usually clear up by itself and it can become quite debilitating. I know drugs always seem like the last thing you want to deal with. But, so far as I know, there are no other viable alternatives.

I have always been a fairly rapid shooter. I could last a long time with masturbation and foreplay but when it came to intercourse I had to really work at waiting. Frankly it was a real down side to intercourse. My own feeling about it is that when I was on top the muscles in my groin and butt were very tense and that caused an immediate sensation that I wanted to ejaculate. I had to fight against that feeling constantly. So I think it's some kind of muscle thing perhaps that puts pressure on your penis and/or prostate and causes a sensation of over stimulation. I could be in my wife and not moving and still feel that pressure to ejaculate very soon. Any kind of thrusting made it very hard to wait. Being on the bottom was definitely better because that feeling wasn't as strong. It was still there though.

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If you can make it to insertion, you're doing better than one of my ex-b/f's.
Have you tried Ginseng & Ginko? They boost stamina.

(Psychologically speaking, blue m&m's also give stamina, but that's something totally different.)

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posted 01-12-2003 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, then I guess I better get Mars to send me a supply for the winter

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LOL Maybe.

I used to have a bowl of blue & green m&m's in my room. Everybody would ask me what the deal was with only 2 colours--don't I like them? My answer was always quite simple. "Green are aphrodesiacs & blue enhance stamina. In short, I want to get it up & keep it there. Have some!" It's that weird urban legend/myth/whatever....I'm sure many people have heard this though. Sometimes it really does work if you believe it will. A guy I used to date, used to eat them & wash the whole lot down with ginsing tea. Obviously he believed it it too much--he rarely reached orgasm withing the 1st 3 hours! That was hell!

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You have the internet at your fingertips, literally, do some research, I'm sure you'll find a HEALTHY alternative to antidepressants. If not, just ask your doctor, don't be embarrassed, as Orion said, it's a common problem.

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Can't believe the mod hasn't removed that website yet ... in the previous post.

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I had the same prob when I was younger. The only way I could last was to use a really thick condom. Give it a try, and remeber, when you feel you need to "take a break", it's the perfect time to do "other things" to satisfy your girl. You are young, don't put pressure on yourself for nothing.

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Has anyone tried deferol? It's suppose to be all natural and not a drug. I tried searching the internet to see if it's a scam and couldn't find anything. It's only $30 for a bottle, which isn't too bad. I know pills aren't the solution, but if I could get some help along the way to the solution, that would be great. If it could help me last, I might get the confidence needed. Any opinions on this? Anyone try it?

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Sounds like performance anxiety. Maybe take a look at your desire to last real long first and relax that high standard of yours. I read a medical journal and the average duration before male orgasm is about 6 minutes. So stop thinking you have to last two hours before orgasm or you're better off alone.

Other tips: Try a lidocaine topical ointment (like dentists use before a shot) or other numbing ointment to help lower the intense pleasure sensations. Better yet, as awkward as it is, talk to your partner and let her know that your first shot is quick (now that you know yourself better) and your second (if she's interested) would take a lot longer and let her decide how long she wants to play with you. Also give yourself time and foreplay her first. If you focus more on her pleasure than yours, it may help you as well. Lastly, no one is perfect in bed the first time and every time. I'm sure even James Bond has a quickie now and then, i.e. don't be so afraid of failure, it means that you are human (not perfect) like the rest of us.

Try to learn to manage your intense pleasure sensations rather than avoid them or keep them all to yourself. Sexuality is a wonderful part of growing into adulthood and the memories last a long time.

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I still think that if you have a loving partner, you should be able to let yourself go the first time, and please yourself, and then just go at it again if can do it again. You'll last so much longer. And plus alot of it is mental. If you think you can last long, most likely you will alst longer. And throughout, don't jsut think about the pleasure that you will get at the point of climax, think about how it feels now, and only now. Might help.

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Whoa! Pills and ointments seem a bit drastic. Why not just observe a simple rule that has worked every time for me. Always make sure she arrives first (by whatever means), then it won't matter how things go with you.

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i have the same problem!!!!!! always less than 1 minute after penetration!

do the suggestions above actually work? masturbating to the point of ejaculation then stopping and going again a minute after seems like a good idea - id rather not use ointments or pills.. it would make me feel more incapable than i already feel!

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Im really close to trying any of those pills also, i tried the squeeez techniq and the masterbating before sex, but it dosnt really work for me, it may last alittle longer but its not long enough for my girlfriend to orgasm, when shes really into it i have to tell her to hurry up and orgasm before i do, i want us to enjoy it longer. In the porno movies we watch they seem to go on forever, they must be using pills?

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In the porno movies we watch they seem to go on forever, they must be using pills?

Don't worry about how sex goes in the porno movies. Those guys are picked because they can go a long time. Also, they have probably had several orgasms that day, causing them to be slower. On top of that, they have sex for their career, so they probably aren't nearly as likely to be over excited or nervous as us normal people.

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It's not surprising to see the number of responses that suggest the use of drugs to solve the problem. What happens if you go off the drugs? Right back where you started... DO you really want to rely on drugs the rest of your life to enjoy sex? This route of instant gratification is not the best one in my opinion. To each his own, however.

I dealt with PE all of my life.. I no longer deal with it and it has changed my life.. The key to getting over it is retraining your mind to not expect ejaculation (pleasure) so soon after sex/intercourse has begun. Men get to excited over the anticipation of orgasm. They are accustomed to having the orgasm quickly due to mens masturbation practices.. You simply need to train your brain/penis to last longer than you are used to or you need to provide some negative reinforcements at the time you feel the urge to ejaculate.

Here are some natural routes.. Use them alone or in combination and you should see changes pretty quick. Don't expect a solution in 2 days or even a week for that matter. Give it a month and once you're there, you likely won't have to deal with it again.

The best way: Have sex more than once a day.. Do it 4-5 times or if only a couple times per day, do it back to back.. Do it til you're sore... Train your penis for a marathon. This is how porn stars do it.. All they ever do is have sex... and their job requires they can hold off/stay hard for long periods of time.

Stop/Start, etc: Just as posted above.. Masturbate and bring yourself close to orgasm, then stop. A good thing to do at the stop point is kegel about 20 times. Regain your erection, masturbate again until close to orgasm and stop. Repeat several times for say 30 minutes or so.. Important.. Do not finish off by ejaculating. Do this daily, or atleast every other day and don't finish off by ejaculating. Yes, it is tough.. but refrain.

Kegel exercises: Kegels involve the flexing of the PC muscle between your balls and anus.. It is the muscle you use to cut off urine flow. It needs to be strong if you are to benefit from it. Flex it.. Do alot of them.. Work up to 300 a day and do them everyday. They are tough in the beginning. Eventually, via the strength of your PC muscle and PRACTICE, you will be able to voluntarily control your ejaculation. There is alot of info out there regarding multiple male orgasms.. Kegels are the starting point. The idea is that when you feel you are going to ejaculate, you do a really strong and prolonged flex until the feeling subsides. Takes practice, but all worthwhile things do. I would recommend doing these regardless for penile health.

Slap: When you are having sex and begin feeling the urge to *** , pull out and slap your glans (head) up against your partners; thigh, bum, cheeks, your hand, etc. This redirects pleasureable nerve impulses.. You may have to do several in a session. MOre of a temporary solution.

The Bend: Be careful with this one.. Make sure you are really hard. Masturbate until you get close to ejaculation... When you feel the urge to ejaculate or the muscles beginning to contract, gently press your penis downward toward the ground/between your legs and hold it there until the contractions stop. Do it gently as to not break anything.. After a few goes, you will get the hang of this.. You probably will only be able to do this once per session. It's best to do the bend a little before you feel contractions.

Acupuncture: Have no direct experience with this,but have heard read that it can be successful, although expensive..

Negative Visual Stimuli: While having sex, think of something relatively unpleasant.. think about changing the oil in your car, digging a ditch or wallpapering the kitchen. Don't tell your significant you're thinking of this stuff. It does help and eventually you can think about the task at hand.

Penis Exercises: You know the ones that help make your dick bigger? Been doing this for a while now and have run across a few benefits.. One, I get mega hard erections. Two, my dick is getting longer and fatter. Three, I can have more frequent erections and more forceful ejaculations. Four, I am increasing the overall health of my penis to avoid alot of the problems men experience later in life. and finally, it his helped me with PE.

Extend foreplay: Simple.. Make foreplay last 45 minutes... Have your significant stroke you gently and backing off when you get close.. When you get head, make it slow and soft..til you get more used to it. The key is extending the sessions beyond your normal climactical expectations or the "2 minute" mark.
Also: WHen the woman/man is on top, men have more control. Any position where the mens hips are thrusted forward will cause him to ejaculate more quickly. Same goes for women by the way.. so use that to your advantage.. So, women go on top. Also, when the woman is on top, have her go slow.. With little in/out movement. Stay deep, but maybe have her/him wiggle a bit,just enough to keep you at that "edge". Get used to it and have her/him work up thru longer and longer thrusts.

Thick condom... Use a really thick condom to start and then graduate to thin. Be sure to allow yourself plenty of practice/thrusting before you go thinner.

Masturbate before having sex.. Maybe an hour or two. This is just like the first one, but solo and not as fun.

Oh, and I just have to say... In my experience, the pinch method is a waste of time.. Really not as
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These are what I had found thru exhaustive internet searches and message boards... Feel free to add to the list.

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Your problem like those of many guys is that they jump straight to sex. Then when they do, they stick to one motion, one position until they orgasm. Of course you won't last long doing that and the girl won't like it.

What women want is attention, caressing, teasing, licking, kissing. Spent more time on foreplay. Kiss her body up and down, feel her, get comfortable being naked with her. This will get a lot of the anxiety out which will better prepare you and which will arouse her and better prepare her to accepting your penis inside her.

Women like it much more if you make them need it. Tease her and all that time will take away your fears and anxiety and will please her. When both are ready then proceed to sex.

When you start having sex, start slow. Remember she doesn't wanna get rammed right away. Take your time, be passionate. If you feel you're getting close, slow it down, switch the rythmn of the pumping, or withdraw, wait a second and then go back in. You'll only need to do this at the beginning.

Once you get into it, then you'll be able to speed up. But do this gradually. Try not to focus on the feeling in your penis but rather on pleasing her. It keeps you lasting longer and makes you a better lover.

Now that the pace has quickened, you can't just withdraw or you'll break her building orgasm. Try not to think of the feeling down there. When appropriate, switch positions and that will give you the time need.

The goal is to focus on her and not to dive right into sex. This has helped me and I've lasted so far the longest 7 hours straight. This will make you more comfy with each other and sex will be fullfilling for the both of you. Try it out. If there are ladies here that agree to what I say, email me or post a reply.

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My dear hubby has this problem too...sometimes it can pose a problem, but most times, it does not. We just get really into the foreplay, and by the time we get to the actual "deed" he has me so worked up it doesn't matter if we go 5 minutes or 5 hours. However, the previous posts regarding being more comfortable with your partner does not always solve the problem. We have been together 6 years, and we still deal with this.

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HornyScorpio,
7 hours?! .. what's your number?.. I'm just kidding.
I think it's great that you trained yourself and care about what women want. I think men must remember to be more giving during sex, that it's not just about his pleasure but hers as well.

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posted 06-05-2003 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pods     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An erection and intercourse for 7 hours straight... Yeah right.

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I believe his story about 7 hours straight. In my younger days That long was not a problem---just slow down and possibly switch to oral awhile. You never heard that story about the fater bull and son bull? The son said--"lets run down there and @@@@ one of those cows!!" The father said--"no son lets walk down and do all of them!!" Two hours is still no problem, but I run out of steam after that---just getting lazy now that I have been married so long.
Just worry about making her happy and until she is--don't wory about yourself.

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posted 06-09-2003 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rkl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i would tend to disagree with the advice of masturbating before you go out and have sex. it sounds good in theory, but you can run the risk of killing all of your desire and sex drive for the night because of it. i recently wanted to increase my sex drive with my girlfriend, so i went a week without masturbating. by the end of the week i was getting really horny. the day i was going to go out and have sex with my girlfriend, i got scared because i felt like i was so aroused i was gonna come too quickly, so i masturbated that afternoon. later that night, i wound up not being able to keep my erection because masturbating earlier that day made it too hard for me to come and/or be aroused. trust me- coming too quickly is *1000* times better than losing your erection during sex. i just wish i hadnt masturbated earlier and avoided all the weirdness that came afterwards. just make sure to go down on her like a wildman before you actually have sex and she wont care how long you go for, because at that point, its really all about you because she's taken care of. this is just one example of course, you may not have that issue potentialy, but hey- im only 23 and it has happened to me.

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