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ejusn
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posted 06-28-2003 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been experiencing pain on which seems to be generated from the middle of my ribs. Interestingly enough I've experiencing the same pain from the same area of my back. It's only painful to the touch or when I bend, move whatever..I'm thinking maybe I just slept wrong..but it provoked the question: Lung pain or Back/Rib pain? How can you tell the difference?

Any thoughts?

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posted 06-28-2003 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexMich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ejusn,

Hi - & sorry for your pain. The pain you're feeling- you say it's in middle of ribs- in the back. The other rib pain- is it in the front *OR* the side of your body? Also, have you been coughing or have you lifted or done anything strenuous w/your upper body lately?

Laura

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posted 06-28-2003 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AH thank you for responding, here's what I know for sure:

The pain seems to come from the front of my body. When I said middle I meant the middle of the front of my ribcage, if that makes any sense. I have the same pain, in the same place in my back.

I quit smoking yesterday afternoon and I guess my lungs are starting to evacuate some of the junk, so I've been doing ALOT of coughing. None of this coughing is involuntary (if that makes sense). Some of it is a bit forceful, but I'm certain I'd know if I had cracked a rib.

I also did a bit of light jogging yesterday. The only reason this is of note is that before yesterday I hadn't done much exercise in the last year or so...that's all part of my non-smoking routine.

Thirdly and maybe most significantly, I've been sleeping on the floor with a sleeping bag. I have mild scoliosis of the lumbar spine and the spring mattress I used left me with terrible back pain the morning. Sleeping on the floor has alleviated this pain, but sometimes my body is a bit sore. This could be the reason my ribs hurt, but I'm especially sensitive to all things lung-related, since I just quit smoking.

Thanks for your interest and hopefully this information will be sufficient. Additionally I have not had any difficulty or pain breathing and have not coughed up blood or anything unusual.

EJ

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posted 06-29-2003 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexMich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EJ, Hello
I hope you're feeling a little better. I've been gone-& just have a minute now- but wanted to quote what Baxter said on this subject a while back: QUOTE:
"I believe many different types of back pain can cause pain in the rib area.
I also have a thoracic problem, and yes, the pain is all around my ribs, from the back to the front. Mine is all on my left side.
You can do a few searches here putting in the word ribs, and hopefully some of the older postings will come up until others here can answer you better."

EJ, there are so many possibilities with the symptoms you describe, that you really need to go to the Doc & present him with a precise list of your symptoms. I do know that strong coughing is not good for your back-I actually think that's how I herniated mine - during the flu. Of course, my disc must not have been in great shape & that was the last straw. So, please take it easy with the coughing. If you have an esophogeal hernia or "gerds" - (do you get heartburn often?) - sleeping on the floor -especially only an hour or 2 after eating - reflux esophogitis could be causing pressure/pain in the areas you mentioned. Also, like you mentioned, the hard floor could've made your ribs sore. It could be a combination of any or all the above! So, as you can see, only a doctor could make an accurate diagnosis with all the possibilities. Tomorrow I'll try to find the web info I've seen before specific to possible internal probs presenting with pain behind the shoulder blade so you can check that out.

Please try not to worry- just make an appt with your Doc very soon to determine the source of your discomfort. You might want to ck on the web about the above possibilities to see if you think any of them might apply- & if so, follow the advice the web gives for that particular ailment til you see your Doc.

Please ck back tomorrow & let us know how you're doing & if you have any ideas what you think it may be.

Take it easy! Sounds like you've done the best thing you can for your health - & that's stopping smoking. It's just going to take a little time for you to start feeling good- hope you're drinking lots of water, & don't push yourself TOO hard physically with exercising vigorously- espec. since you're feeling pain- better on your body to build up to it gradually.
I do think you should see your Doc, tho'.

Take care!
Laura

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Mar 2003:Micro-Discectomy w/Hemilaminectomy L5-S1
Prior to that 4 mos of Sciatic pain; left side
Herniated Disc L5/S1
Bulging Disc L4/L5

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posted 06-29-2003 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexMich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again

How are you feeling today? For other possibilites for pain behind your shoulder blade area- there's a web site that really addresses several possibilities well: don't think they approve of giving exact web site addresses here- but do google search exactly like this (with spaces/w/o spaces as shown) & then double click on the info on shoulder blades at top of list:
doctorsexercise shoulder blade

Good luck! & let us know how you're doing.
Laura

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posted 06-29-2003 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey back

I'm feeling pretty good today really..the nicotine fits are hammering away at me. When I have "fits" it's just this conscious nagging from my throat asking for it's regular toxic smoke but I've learned that tea handles that anyway.

As to my back, the pain in my ribs is minor today, it seems to be coming from my second-to-lowest rib and does not affect my breathing, so I'm not worried.

As to the heartburn. I have heartburn constantly, but I tend to eat very fast (military training engrained) so that's no surprise...and I really should cut down on my sodium.

Anyway, down to brass tacks. I'll have a look at the page you referred me to and I'm grateful for your having posted to assist me.

The reasons why I decided to quit smoking, by the way, are two-fold. I'm a veteran (only 22 though) and I have benefits through the VA. Every time I visit a Veterans Hospital I see at least 2-5 elderly gentlemen on oxygen and some with tubes in their throats. Secondly, I'm looking at this site and how people my age have these mile long signatures of dates when they were hurt or contracted an illness and I realize how arrogant and disrespectful of me it is to be taking my health for granted and playing russian roulette with a pack of cigarettes..

So thank you So much for your concern and assistance, I hope I can return the favor in the future!

EJ

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posted 06-29-2003 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexMich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EJ

I'm glad you're feeling better today! The information you're looking up as well as info here is certainly helpful in being better equipped to communicate & determine with your doctor what problems you may have -so you can then go about addressing them & feeling good. Our time with the doc is always so limited- it does help to have a concise "diary" or list of symptoms/concerns along w/what we think might have caused or agitated the pain/problem. I hope you're not letting the heartburn go on unchecked too long so no permanent damage occurs. If you have "gerds" - a weakening of the esophageal spincter which closes the throat from the stomach - you should probably be watching things that weaken it (ie: shots/schnapps/salsa/hot sauce/too much coffee/caffeine/cokes,etc) There is medicine that can help strenghen it- just something to keep in mind to chat w/your Doc about!

I hope you take it easy- try not to worry so much (stress is also bad for your health & many health conditions!)

Take care!
Laura

Sounds like you are one who learns from life's experiences- your own AND others. You also seem to have a respect for life and good health - you are wise beyond your years! Hope you hold on to those wonderful qualities.

You're so right- stopping smoking is the very best thing you can do for your health.


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Mar 2003:Micro-Discectomy w/Hemilaminectomy L5-S1
Prior to that 4 mos of Sciatic pain; left side
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Bulging Disc L4/L5

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posted 06-29-2003 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well thank you for your kind words.

I drink alot of coke/tea which is probably the reason I get the heartburn. I do shots -on occasion- which is to say, rarely.

Ran into some second hand smoke today and the area i was speaking of seemed to hurt more..so maybe it's not the ribs alone.

I spoke with a nurse today, a feature the VA offers, and she figured that if the pain didnt go away around WED I should contact my "team" (VA is run the same way HMO are now). So I'll just wait and see.

As to smoking, I never considered how truly nasty it was until I quit. Smokers get these little sores in their mouths from smoking, I wouldnt date a smoker, so I'm guessing women found it nasty to be around me when I was smoking too..all in all once I get past the initial withdrawal and get a checkup to make sure no damage was done, I'll be alot happier..not to say I'm not happy now.

Take it easy!

EJ

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posted 06-29-2003 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexMich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EJ,

Sounds like you've got it covered!

Take care & I hope you check back from time to time & let me know how you're feeling- & what you & your Doc figure out about your symptoms!

Take care!

Laura

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posted 06-29-2003 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks laura!

Meanwhile I've been trying to find an up-close picture of the human ribs and everything under those ribs. Something you'd see in a biology book. I've found a few pictures but nothing upclose that included the lungs AND ribs in a manner that I could examine them up-close. Sickeningly, I received an A in my first college bilogy class...shame I didnt keep the book.

EJ

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posted 07-01-2003 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejusn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all

Just an update on this subject:

The day before I felt no pain at all, no trouble. Today I've been feeling this odd "burning tingle" it has the characteristics of a burning pain and a tingling pain. I'm guessing the first reaction people would have to the burning and tingling is "It's gas" hehe..but I'm almost certain that a. thats not it and b. it wouldnt affect the rib/lung area...could be wrong. Any thoughts on what this burning/tingling sensation near the lungs could be? I'm a non-smoker as of four days ago..could be healing, but am generally unsure.

Thanks

EJ

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