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posted 04-20-2003 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trainboxer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
something else?

Ok, for the past year and even longer I have had some or all of the following symptoms:

-Memory not quite there, I forget what I am going to say often
- blood every time I brush
- Light acne (which strangely started shortly after having fillings placed in my mouth along with a retainer attached to my bottom teeth)
- Pains that can all of a sudden occur in any part of my body for a few seconds
- I have had a few tremors but that was seldom
- nervousness
- chronic fatique
- depressed
- unable to handle small amounts of stress
- anxiety attacks
- metallic taste
- dizziness and whitish vision when I stand up from sitting for a long period of time
- easily get cold
- sometimes numbness in my feet
- my ears get cold and feel numb sometimes
- get angry and irritated easily

Ok, these are a lot of symptoms and my father thinks it's all in my head and I am just not eating properly. Can this be something else or am I just going crazy here. Cause I FEEL crazy!
I have about 3 fillings, one very large, one medium size, and one small. I have no idea. I got one of the fillings about 4-5 years ago and then the others are older.
I am making preparations to see a dentist that follows proper protocol to reduce exposure to mercury and am making steps to plan a detox afterwards.

Please I would like to hear any stories from people who have went through mercury poisoning. I plan on getting a test done beforehand to see how much mercury is in my system. Any advice on that and what kinds of tests are more accurate would be so helpful to me.

THanks!!

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posted 04-20-2003 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DonnaDe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you think your symptoms are related to your fillings?

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Because most if not all are the symptoms of mercury poisoning. I have no idea what it could be but it seems that it would be probable to stem from one source or two. I will find out for sure when I get a mercury test done. Please anyone who had experience with mercury poisoning from amalgams, I would like to hear your stories and symptoms.

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posted 04-20-2003 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DonnaDe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trainboxer,

While you're waiting for replies, you might want to search this forum for "mercury poisoning." This issue has been addressed before, and maybe some of the previous discussion will be helpful to you :-)

Good luck!

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posted 04-20-2003 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trainboxer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks DonnaDe.

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I write about this all the time....

I suffered for over 20 years....

In 1978 a doctor told me to not run more than a 100 yards, that I was too fat, too old, and I should take 10 aspirins a day. Since that time, these fibromyalgia symptoms got worse, until I had my mercury-silver dental amalgams replaced with less toxic ones.

I linked these pains to my dental amalgams, when my tooth broke and exposed one amalgam - and my pains went "to the roof". It's a very long story. I've slowly recovered about nine years later. My life has been surrounded by special diets, herbs, and now cilantro.

I now run about 19.5 miles a week. My running time constantly improves. The headaches are gone, rarely do I have chest pains. The urinary problems, lower back pain, joint pain, skin rashes are near history.

For you or anyone it is often very difficult to prove that mercury or mercury from your dental amalgams could cause so many troubles. But the question you have to ask, do you want mercury in your body? Do you want this mercury that leaks constantly from your amalgams to continue to accumulate?

As far as mental conditions or anxiety or depression or exhaustion - that's hard to pinpoint as much for me. I think those conditions were less of a problem for me, because I was always fighting this. I was always searching. As I slowly improved, my mood improved. Being healthy as a great way of making everything so much better. I still wonder...and I don't really know.

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Oh, I should add....

I also had lots and lots of blood every time I brushed. My teeth were so loose that I thought I could pull them out with my hand. I had gum disease, that would start at the roof of my mouth, and spread like wildfire. To control it, I used lots of salt water and antiseptic solutions.

After I had the mercury-silver dental amalgams replaced, the fastest noticeable improvement for me, was that my teeth were no longer loose. My gum disease has never occured like that ever since.

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One other thing. If you would like more information about this, please let me know. I could write a book about this, just from all my personal experiences.

I find it so sad that so many people are so ignorant about this - it's a real serious problem for some of us. If we could only get the medical and dental establishment to stop calling mercury-silver dental amalgams, by the term "silver" fillings. Fortunately, the internet is a great source, a great equalizer.

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rhody, did you suffer from sensitivity to light, especially sunlight, when you were being poisoned?

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I did not notice anything like that with sunlight, but I couldn't rule it out either. It's so hard to say. With chronic mercury poisoning, the mercury from dental amalgams slowly accumulates. When the source of mercury is removed, the mercury slowly (very slowly) leaves the system. So with such transitions, it would be difficult, I would think to notice such differences.

I think because of the nature of mercury of how it accumulates in such a slow manner and how it is eliminated from the body in such a slow manner, it adds to the difficulty of trying to pinpoint various symptoms and other reactions. That is the reason I believe there is such a controversy. It's no easy task. I waited about four or five years after I had my dental amalgams removed, before saying a lot about this. I wanted to see the difference from a long term perspective.

But there were pains and strange conditions when my tooth broke, and there were strange things happening during the amalgam removal process. I noticed gradual healing over the years. It just wasn't completely so cut and dry, in a short time period. But if I look back, say about 12 years ago, and how I feel today - it's "night and day" difference. But thinking about sunlight or bright lights - I don't recall any significant difference.

It seems that the cilantro is helping me further - one of my latest experiments. Basically, I just observe. Isn't that one of the early steps or parts of science - observation?

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Hi. Thanks so much for your responses people.

I do see floaters in my eyes in certain light and get those when I am dizzy. I found a dentist who takes precautions when getting amalgam fillings out, such as a rubber dam, some kind of suction device that sucks the mercury vapors and pieces where the tooth is being drilled, and some kind of nose piece allows me to breathe clear air.
I am not sure about detox yet though. I plan on going to a clinic where they referred me to to get a compatibility dest and galvanic test so that I could get the proper materials that are best suited to my body and the galvanic test to ensure they take out the fillings according to their charge. I know they do detoxes there and homeopathy treatments to detox so I will be asking about it when I am there. I am quite scared of DMPS and DMSA cause I heard bad things about both. I was thinking of some kind of homeopathy treatment and see how that works. I am not sure yet. Did you go through a detox and if so, what kind? And what was it like?

Thanks so much

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It's nice to hear about someone else that's recovering from mercury poisoning - that was linked to dental amalgams. I recovered quite a bit differently, taking a "natural" route that was determined through experimentation.

This is what worked for me:

1) Removal of mercury and other metals from the teeth a little over nine years ago.

2) Exercise; at first this was very difficult, but in time it got much easier.

3) Natural foods - I switched to highly nutritious foods that are lower in calories (than processed foods).

4) Herbs - these I took before I realized that mercury from dental amalgams could cause me so many troubles. After doctors could not help me and actually made me worse at times, herbs became part of my early successful experiments.

5) Cilantro - this latest experiment for me seems to be working. Any residual pains seem to be diminishing where my running times are now improving on a consistent basis.

6) Time - this has been a good friend. It takes lots of patience to detox the body of mercury. When I went through different experiments, I would continue as long as I could say I was getting better. It was a slow road, but in the absense of any knowledgeable physicans, it was the only course that I could take.

I hope that you continue to get better. I know what you mean when you say sometimes things seem to be worse. One of my worse experiments (which I've written about before), was when I tried three anti-mercury components together for a few weeks. I got so sick I thought I was going to literally die. It hit me all of a sudden. I almost finished all my pills and then whaaammmm. I first felt like I was hungry and like I wanted to throwup at the same time. I felt like I wanted to run and sleep at the same time. It was so strange. Later (a day or so later), I developed a low grade fever, perspired, and then felt so sleepy that I thought I was never going to wake up. I missed about a week of work, but this strange sensation lasted about a month or two longer - only slowly going away. My "know everything" doctor dismissed it as "mental", even ignoring my statements to him about urinating blood (years later I had a huge kidney stone removed). I never messed with anti-mercury components again. But the herbs, diet, cilantro, and exercise have been gentle.

I'd like for you to describe your symptoms more in detail too. It's very interesting. Very few people write about this - that have linked this to dental amalgams. I write about it all the time. It's hard to stop - I mean when you are so sick you want to die and then feel so better that you can run for miles - it's hard to contain....

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Marie,

Thanks for the information.

My story started in 1978 when a doctor told me that I was too old, too fat, to take 10 aspirins a day, and to not run more than 100 yards. He said "fat", not overweight. I'll never forget. In those days, I think aspirin was the "answer for everything". I never wanted a life like that. I mean it wasn't fair. Someone else can have these pains I thought at the time - this "arthritis" was for someone else - but not me.

For years, I had so many "unexplained" medical problems, bouncing from doctor to doctor with much experimentation - being trapped in a body that could only partially function. Sometime about 1989 or so, when these problems were driving me to the end of my rope, I read in a healthfood store about some stories someone wrote about - about people who suffered from dental amalgams. The symptoms that she described of these other people described me. In those days, I could never believe that those gray-black things in my mouth could cause all those problems. But I cataloged that in my mind - because the symptoms were so close. I wish I had purchased that book - for it's so dear to me - because it was the first "light" of knowledge for me - to help me understand. One symptom stuck out in my mind from all of those that I read in that book - it was those chest pains - that would come and go. They felt like they were near the sternum and the pain would migrate to underneath the chin. It felt so awful, like you didn't know whether you could draw another breath. Did you ever get those kind of chest pains?

When my tooth broke nearly 10 years ago and exposed one amalgam, my pains got much worse. You mentioned tingling. It was at this time, and only this time that I felt that tingling at the end of my hands - for me it was the same feeling that one gets when the blood circulation is cut off and then comes back. At that time my headaches were intense.

Now, I run nearly 20 miles a week. No longer do these headaches come. The lower back pains, chest pains, and muscle aches are gone - except when I overdo it. With cilantro that I've been taking lately, I seem to be able to push the "wall" further out - and I can do more.

I remember when the dentist drilled out those eight amalgams for me in a three month period (I had a dental dam too), the only thing I could think about was running - running like the wind. I imagined that I could run free, run wild, run like the wind.... Those days are here now and it feels great.

Again, thanks for sharing your stories with us. I wish more people would understand this simple point. If a person has typical "silver" fillings in their mouth, they have extremely toxic mercury circulating in their bodies. Do we want to wait for scientists to conduct a "gazillion" studies to prove that it's harmful? My life, my health for me is proof enough. It will be hard for anyone to convince you or I otherwise - like impossible!!! Keep up the good work!

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So rhody, did your problems stem mostly from that one amalgam that was exposed?

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It's too hard for me to define whether one or all the amalgams had more of an affect (overall). I had the exposed amalgam treated first - which seemed to "send me over the edge". With that initial exposure gone, my symptoms of pain subsided, so that I could tolerate further my filling replacement.

All I know is that I associated my increased pains with that one dental amalgam, that I had symptoms similar to other people that reportedly had problems with dental amalgams, and that previously I was so sick that I wanted to die, and now I'm well. I also know that I've reduced the amount of mercury in my body as a result.

I'm not a scientist by profession or doctor of medicine, just an ordinary person that had to take extraordinary steps to get well. A lot of what I've done is with experimentation. With the lack of understanding and the ignorance of doctors of this problem, what other choices do we have? Fortunately, for some of you the choices are getting better, as this becomes more of an issue.

I recently visited another doctor, and asked him if their viewpoint about dental amalgam poisoning had changed in the last ten years or so, since I last spoke with one of their associates - and to my disappointment - they are still in the dark ages.

Do you know that some medical professionals still think that the mercury stays hard in the dental amalgam? You can even read this (or something similar) on the internet. Those people actually believe it. Try asking around. I think you'd be surprised - I know I am every time I speak with doctors or dentists about this. With eyes and mouth wide open they stare...they just don't know what to think about it.

The last time I saw my dermatologist just recently, he sarcastically said, "Oh, so you're allergic to mercury". He was nasty the whole time - so much I may never go back. He kept circling red marks on me that he said was cancer. He wouldn't even let me tell him about my rashes. Well, this supposedly cancer has gone away - it's nothing more than the strange marks that I get periodically - they come and go daily or weekly. Will they ever listen?

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I also had some more things that happened to me, that show a relationship between my pains and dental amalgams. After I had my last amalgam replaced with a "white" filling, I had a strange bruise sensation "tatooed" to my right knee. I could see no discoloration or bump. But when I touched it, it would hurt, just like a bruise. Fortunately, it did not affect my running - the exercise that I was trying to do at the time. Shortly right after I had the amalgams replaced, I felt like a load was taken off my shoulders. Also very soon afterwards, my teeth tightened up in my gums.

Because of all of this, I pretty much knew I had it - I had discovered something important. After so many years of suffering, I could solve this mystery. Now, I could rid myself of these pains - I just needed further detoxification. This is something that I did all on my own without a doctor - which I do not recommend anyone do. I just couldn't find anyone to help me. So, that was the time I experimented with anti-mercury components, and got sick. I was so sick that I figured that I had just gone too far. I was preparing for death at that time. I thought I was going to die. My doctor ignored what I told him - he just didn't understand. I was so sleepy, I thought I would never wake up.

I told people of this dream before. I had this dream, while sick at this time, of someone that was drowning. In my dream, I sank further and further below the surface of some body of water. I saw the light above at the surface of this water - a yellow green color. I was helpless. I could do nothing. No one could help. I was drowning. Then I asked God for help. All I could do was lift up my arm. Nothing else would move, for my body was paralyzed as I slipped deeper and deeper. God grabbed my one arm and pulled me up. I awoke from the dream, wondering if God had given me another chance at life.

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Rhody, how soon after your amalgams were removed did you start detox? How many visits did it take for all of your fillings to be removed? Cause I was pretty much planning on having all 3 fillings removed at the same time. How many fillings did you have and what precautions did your dentist use?
You know it's funny that one place I called, I asked what precautions they take to lessen mercury exposure, and you know all they told me was that the dentist and assistant wear masks over their faces! That's nice, well how do you PROTECT THE PATIENT????? I said, well what about the patient? And they didn't know anything. I asked if they at least use a rubber dam and they said no. Needless to say I didn't make an appointment there.
Funny how some offices the dentists worry about protecting themselves but not the actual patient.

Hopefully this clinic I am going to for tests can help me detox a homeopathy way. If not, I read up that chlorella attaches to the mercury and stuff in your system. I even saw places to purchase it online. It said you should start taking it like 2 weeks before procedure to build up a tolerance to 10 pills that you should take right before the procedure and stuff. I am just afraid that I will get sick after the procedure from the high exposure to mercury while they are taking out my amalgams.
I just can't wait till I get these things taken out, but I am very afraid at the same time. I think during my next appointment in the office, they will be taking out my lower retainer. Then I'll be making an appointment to have those darn fillings removed.

Funny how even as a child I had amalgam fillings on my baby teeth. All these years always having a couple fillings at least in my mouth makes me worry how it all affected me.

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My method of detox was self-made, since so much of what I did was developed from experimentation. I changed to a healthy diet of non-processed foods (many years prior) and continued with my herbal teas. I didn't learn about cilantro until about 1-1/2 years ago or so.

My dentist did use a dental dam, and I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I believe the ventilation was good too. He knew about my sensitivity. I didn't press him about his knowledge about it, since dentists have been "gagged" by the ADA (although this is changing some). Years later, I noticed his outside signs describing himself as a cosmetic dentist. He did a great job. If you have doubts at all about your dentist, I'd seriously think that looking for another one might be appropriate - it looks like changing your appointment is the right step - I hope you find a good one. Some of these dentists are great and others still have a lot to learn about this - some of them can actually do a lousy job of putting in these "white" fillings. Look for the best "white" fillings possible - consider porcelain or some other durable material.

Some interesting self-made methods of detox to keep me running, were vegetable juices of spinach and broccoli (huge drinks). I tried so many things to stay well. I'm so stubborn - refusing to yield to doctors saying to me that I'm too old or too fat - or it's a mental thing etc.

I had two mercury fillings removed at a time, quadrant by quadrant. I had two in each quadrant for a total of eight amalgams. The process for me took about 3 months. I used to drink lots of fruit juices too - naturally made from my Vitamix. I believe this may have helped me heal faster, as these Vitamin C drinks may help an individual clean up from mercury faster. You might want to read up more about this on the internet. I'm not an expert on mercury detoxification - just someone who tried so many things to get well.

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I hoped I answered your question. My detoxification was both before and after the amalgam removal process. Except for my bad experiment of anti-mercury components, I stayed exercising, taking herbal teas, and eating a healthy diet.

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Thank you so much for your response. It helps a lot.

I read that amalgams give off a charge or current just like other metals that may be in your mouth. I was wondering you mouth full of metal is in any way affected if you are next to rows of powerlines for long periods of time.

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I've heard of some troubles with powerlines. As a consequence, I stay away from them too (with or without dental amalgams). If I hear of anything slightly toxic or dangerous, I won't take a chance. I won't microwave my food or eat anything from aluminum packaging too. I don't tell other people what to do, in this regard, but I just don't want to take a chance. One horror story of dental amalgams is enough for me, in my lifetime.

People will say some things are safe, because it can't be proven to be unsafe - and then later - maybe much later - they'll say, "Well, if we only knew then, what we know now...." The understanding of so many medical things is constantly evolving. We are just in a point in time. We can look back and see all the progress. We can look forward and imagine all the progress. It is there (this future progress). We just don't know what it is yet.

I think the future in medicine this next century is going to pay more attention to toxic materials that we put in our teeth like dental amalgams and the rest of our bodies. I think they will look back at what we did, and wonder how we could of have been so primitive - just like how we look at blood letting - and how primitive that was to our way of thinking now.

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Again, to answer your question more clearly, I did not live or work near powerlines. I did not know or was able to correlate any relationship between powerlines and my sickness. I had heard that EMF radiation could make things worse with dental amalgams - but that's an area that I don't know a lot about.

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I remember one of my teeth had a nickel post, amalgam filling, and gold crown - yikes - when that root snapped away slightly from the tooth boy there was a current!

Rhody - this is an unrelated question for you. I've been doing the detox protocol for mercury. I'm getting burnt out on the cilantro so I have to find other ways to integrate it. Is the paste good - and what do you use it on? Right now I eat it raw and in salads. I wish it was as yummy as parsley - I can graze on that stuff all the time! What's weird is that I'll go a couple of days feeling like a truck hit me, then fine, then it hits me again. I hear one can detox in cycles. This rash isn't going away like I wish it would - I suppose in good time.

Oh - you'll love this - I'm going for lymphatic drainage next week to help things move along - it's with a nurse who does epidemologie (sp?) who works with an NMD that I know who is helping me with nutrition. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!

Do you hang out at the alternative medicine board? I have other unrelated questions for you - thanks!

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That's a tough question about the cilantro. I know there are people who cook with it all the time, but I just mix it with raw spinach and consume it almost every day. I guess I look at it as "medicine". But you're right, if anyone saw us eat this way, they would definitely call it grazing. It seem like tomatoes have a way of neutralizing the cilantro taste some. Have you tried that? Sometimes, when I remember, I eat the cilantro with tomatoes.

Another thing I did recently was make cilantro juice with carrots with my Vitamix (heavy duty food processor). I just place a handful of cilantro and carrots together with water and turn the Vitamix on. It's a nice veggie drink - and the cilantro taste wasn't too strong. I always forget to drink my carrot juice...you reminded me...I'll have some now.

Yes, I write about alternative medicine, since herbs were my "early friends", when I had no other choices. I'll take a look. The herbs still seem to help me with the detoxification. I don't understand exactly why, from a scientific perspective. For example, when I just started taking my herbs again, the itchy rash appeared again in some spots. The herbs made and make me feel better - for reasons I don't know why....

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I was trying to associate my chronic tiredness & weakness which that symptom started just a few months ago. I was thinking that I was hiking all day(on a couple different days) a few months ago next to a row that went for hundred of miles of large powerlines. I was not sure if this could escalate any symptoms I had, but I did find something on the internet:

it could also be another factor activated by the magnetic fields. Arthritic
/ rheumatic complaints seem to be very closely tied in with
amalgam-poisoning. But I wouldn't doubt that one could get it also from
only EMF. But for any person working in a heavily loaded emf-environment I
would at least advise to make sure of removing all metals in your body. Any
such will accelerate the damage by the electromagnetic radiation.

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More startliing info I found:

Sweden, found that EMF-exposure more than doubled the mercury release from amalgam (2 6 average value)


Also:

One mechanism by which EMF causes these immune and neurological conditions is the fact that EMF has been found to cause significant increases in release of mercury into the body of those with amalgam dental fillings; and mercury has been documented to cause all of these immune and neurolgical conditions.

Most people get significant exposures to Electromagnetic Fields(EMF) from computer monitors, televisions, microwaves, other appliances, and power lines. These exposures have been found to significantly increase release and excretion of mercury in those with amalgam fillings.


-- I can assume that powerlines is probably the worst source, or should I say best source, to be exposed to EMF radiation. I would hate to know how much mercury I absorbed during that time.

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Hello Rhody and Trainboxer,

This is a very interesting thread, full of great information for us to read.

I've been reading the book by Hal Huggins DDS called, "It's All in Your Head." I also just finished a book written by Dr. James Hardy DDS called "Mercury Free." The information contained in these books are very informative. I must warn you though. Should you decide to read them; be prepared to get very angry at the ADA. I sure did any way.

Folks, they've known since way back in the late 1800's that mercury amalgam is toxic to humans. Animals as well. The sad thing is; mercury amalgams are not the worst thing dentists are slowly killing people with. (I know those are strong words) but I'm merely repeating what I read. Root Canals are the most incidious thing done in dentistry. Dr. Hal Huggins has a website so you can read about it. Just type his name in a search engine to find it, since I'm not allowed to post it here. He lost his license to practise dentistry because he refused to give into the ADA and all their political might. They really don't have the best interest of our health in mind that's for sure. That goes for both issues I brought up here. Dr. Huggins was shut down because he exposed the lies.

Also, please do research in regards to "white" fillings. Ask what materials they contain. Some of them contain Aluminum Dioxide as a binder. Approx 50% of people react to that negatively as well. Just because their whit fillings doesn't mean they are combatable to you. Make sure you check it out!!!

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Hi Tenntod,

Thanks for the information.

I had my naturopath check for me any incompatibilities. I'm not sure, but I think I have porcelain - now I believe for a little over nine years - with no problems - no shrinkage - or cracking - or a noticeable health problems. If fact I constantly have been improving - and noticeably more so since I've been consuming cilantro. I keep thinking I'm a hundred percent cured - and then I do better and reach new higher levels. I believe that is so, because I was so sick so long that I forgot what it was to feel really 100 percent well.

I seem to remember wanting the most durable type of white filling. Do you know if porcelain contains that aluminum compound that you mention? There are just so many different types, from what I remember - and that was many years ago when I researched it.

This issue is heating up all the time. You can read on the internet about some pro-amalgam groups that are saying that the mercury stays safely locked inside the amalgam. How can they say such things and get away with it, when the truth is that the mercury constantly leaks? Some US government officials and attorneys are now starting to get involved - with new laws and legal action. I watch all of this with interest, because when I first discovered my link to my illnesses from these amalgams, it wasn't receiving the attention I felt was necessary. But things are beginning to change - there's much better data coming in all the time.

I just wish more doctors and dentists would read this latest data. Unfortunately some may rely on old information - and believe that the mercury is safely locked inside each dental amalgam. Mercury is so poisonous - it's regarded as the most poisonous non-radioactive material for the human body.

Who really wants mercury in their bodies - regardless of what claims are made? It's just too dangerous - and I say this as one who knows it all too well.

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Tenntod,

I have to also say, that root canals scare me too - with the infections and such that I've read about. I never had any root canals, so it isn't a personal issue with me, but what I've read is enough to tell me to never even think about getting one. To this day, I'll never trust another doctor and dentist when they say something is safe. It's just their opinions, that can change with better or more up-to-date information. Before getting anything major done, I'll read up on all the information (as well as listen to health professionals) and then make my own decision.

I'll lose the tooth before getting it restored like that. Fortunately for me, my teeth are now all strong - except for the damage done by the past "drilling and filling" etc.

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Hello rhody,

Let me do my best to answer your question before I get on my soap box. This is all I could find for you. This is taken from the book, "It's All in Your Head" by Hal Huggins D.D.S. First written in 1993. So please keep that in mind as you read the next chapter.

"Cast Glass" (Sneaky) There is now a new generation of cast glass crowns and inlays coming on the market.
From the standpoint of biocompatibility, they contain more than 25% aluminum, in the form of alumnium oxide. This figure may be as high as 45 percent in some porcelains. Just as in the case of mercury in amalgam, dentists have been led to believe that all components are tightly bound and safe. However, I (Hal Huggins) recommend that you have your immune system tested before allowing your dentist to place cast glass in your mouth. Over 80 percent of dental patients suffer a drop in immune protection when exposed to aluminum.

Rhody, I have no idea if any of this applies to you. But, my feeling is; your health has improved dramatically, and continues to do so even today. So, I'd guess that the material used to replace your mercury amalgams has got to be much more biocompatible with your immune system. It only makes sense to me. Othewise you would not have had such tremendous improvement with your health!!!

You and I have communicated on this board in the past. It's been awhile though. Your story is one that I certainly appreciate you sharing. Personally, I would like to encourage you to write that book you've talked about. Just think about how many people you could help! You're a bit of a pioneer when it comes to detoxing yourself from the rath of mercury amalgam! Heck, if we could get in touch with each other from this board, without breaking the rules, I'd love to write a book with you. I really want to help people. I see so many un-informed folks on this board and as much as I would like to think I can sit here and talk about all the studies that have been covered up through the years, and really make a huge difference in people's health. Well, we can't infringe on other authors copyrighted materials.

The issue of amalgam "mercury" toxicity is in fact being questioned by society more and more, you're so right. I believe the day is near that the truth will come out on a very large scale. I think we're getting close to the day we'll see the ADA finally held accountable. I hope I see the day when the flood gates are opened. The truth needs to come out more and more regarding dental materials such as mercury amalgams, root canals, and just how many people are negatively effected years down the road. Way too many people are being made deathly ill as a result of the amalgam that un-suspecting dentists are placing in the mouths of millions of people each year. The writing is all over the wall. Those studies done so many years ago prove that even the dentists are harming themselves because they don't take breathing mercury vapor seriously. In fact, if you go to the ADA website you'll read about how safe mercury amalgam fillings really are. Whoops, I forgot, they don't call them "mercury" amalgams. They call them "silver" amalgam fillings. Well let's break down what we do know about the components of this material. Just what is in today's "new" high copper amalgam material. Copper, Zinc, Mercury, Silver, and Tin. Humm, and with the new amalgams according to Dr. Hugins and several other mercury free dentists, as much as 70% of the material is made of, you guessed it, Mercury!!! Pretty darn scary if you ask me.

Hello, can someone please tell me how in the world that once this material is removed from a persons mouth, it is then treated as an extremely toxic hazardous waste material. But yet, when it is placed in a persons mouth it is considered "safe." Some how that just doesn't make sense to me.

When you research the history of dental amalgam filling materials, ( I mean go way back into the early 1800's when it came to the U.S. from Europe ) one can only conclude it boils down to something the business world calls, "profit." Huge profits for the manufacturer(s) and the dentist. It's a cheap material that is much more easy to place in a tooth than a composite material is. It takes more skill on the dentists part to place a composite filling than "mercury" amalgam. I think it's really sad that we have dentists out there practising today, that still believe that the mercury is safe once the material hardens. Why then are they told in their safety manuals to not touch this material with their bare hands????? Could it be poison?! Toxic perhaps? Common sense tells us we're being sold a snow job! And, I'm not buying it anymore.

I'm sorry for going on like I have. But I'm very passionate about this. I won't even get started on Root Canals. The studies that Dr. Weston Price and his team of research scients spent 20 years doing, well I wish I knew then what I know now. Well, the evidense is overwhelming that you don't want one. And, I have 5 of them. I was sold a bill of goods before I became educated. I'm working on getting that resolved though. My long term health depends on it.

Please note: I am not advocating anyone run out and have your mercury amalgam or root canals removed. I'm simply sharing information with whomever reads this. Please do your own research before you do anything regarding dentistry and your health. And as you can see, I've edited this message. It's very watered down from it's original state. I don't want to break the rules. I would like to suggest to anyone interested. Find Dr. Huggins website and get his very detailed 26 page report regarding Root Canals. He wrote this material based on years of experience, and the research documented by Dr. Price. Research, you can't get your hands on today. Humm, interesting!

Best Wishes To Everyone,

Tenntod

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Hi tenntod,

I had a naturopath test me for any incompatabilities. I was surprised at the wide variety of dental restoration materials and cementing agents. I didn't want to jump from one frying pan into another.

I'm not sure, but I think aluminum oxide is quite different than aluminum. I believe that aluminum is the most common metal in the earth, locked in silicates and oxides - as true compounds - which is quite different than an amalgam. It's been some time since I researched this, so you might want to check into it and verify.

I agree that everyone shouldn't just rush out and remove their amalgams or root canals without doing research. Mainly what I describe, is what happened to me, and particular facts about this matter. We don't know everything about it, but we do know some things...much more than we did 25 years ago. We know that mercury leaks from every typical amalgam, and accumulates in tissues. We know that mercury is extremely toxic. And we also know that many people reportedly have gotten well after removing these poisons from their teeth. It's nice to hear the stories from many people who can relate to this.

Most of my research and ability to get well, was from reading and experimentation. Some of my experiments did not go well, but most were beneficial. One of the most frustrating things about this, is that I had to go outside standard medical care to accomplish my return to health (for the most part). How many thousands or millions of people are affected by this, living a life with pain pills and other medical treatment? Is this a bigger issue than we can imagine? Is it more widespread of a problem, or is it confined to a small allergic few? My feeling about this, is that it's big. I think it's a big issue, that's getting bigger all the time.

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Hi Rhody,

Great to hear from you again. I looked up composite dental materials again in the book, "It's All in Your Head" by Hal Huggins D.D.S. It talks about the fact there are some composites that do contain aluminum, and it is suspected in mental disorders. The most common mental upset Dr. Huggins saw in his practise was suicidal thoughts. He says that these folks do not often actually commit suicide, but the thoughts hound them most of their waking hours. So, he brings a question to the table concerning mercury amalgams and the plastic composites a person could be allergic to. Is it a worthwhile trade-off?

So, that is why we should always find the right dentist who knows what he/she is doing when removing the old mercury amalgams and then they need to run the correct tests to determine which composite material your body will best handle. There is definetly a certain protocal to follow.

You are so right, dentistry has come a long way in the past 25 years. But according to the studies I've read, there is a very long way to go. It's like you mentioned. Public awareness is something that is needed so badly. So many millions of people are just not "informed" when it comes to what is being put in their mouths. Most don't have a clue as to what the materials from, cementing agents, to the filling materials used, to so many other things. They just don't realize that what's in their mouths could very well be what is causing severe health problems. Doctors don't put two and two together either. They just don't know.

And yes, I totally agree with you. The problem is much larger than anyone can imagine and it's getting larger in this country, each day. This is not my opinion. This is the conclusion from research scientists who have done the actualy research and provided the data.

It's quite sickening to know that the research was done on all the things we talk about, from "mercury" toxicity to the root canal issue. And this information has been covered up over the years. As I've said before, try to get your hands on the thousands of pages of Dr. Weston Price's research.

Personally, I would like to stay in denial about this, but the information is too compelling and written by too many dentists or researchers. When a person reads it, it's very difficult to deny. Just how many people's health has been jepordized as a result? Who knows! Thanks for listening.

All the Best,

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I have been going to doctors on and off for the past 5 years now with tons of symtoms that they test but allways come back fine.I read your feedback and a light went on.I have 7 metal fillings in my mouth that iv had for about 16 years now and i never knew they could make you sick until now.These are my symtoms:
tired and fatiuged all the time
mood swings
chest pains like an asthma attack
mettalic taste in mouth
weekness
drooling when sleeping
shaky,and nervous all the time
Those are some but not all.For the past 5 years iv been so sick with no diognoses and i am at the end of my rope.I do have alot of problems with thinking clearly aswell or remebering anything.I hope someone has some advice for me.thanks

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Hello Jackpot,

I'm so sorry to hear you have been having such a difficult time. I will list some of the more common "symptoms" of mercury poisoning based on 1,320 patients that were studied very carefully by Dr. Huggins. Please note: I'm not making any attempt to diagnose your health challenge. I'm only sharing this information with you so perhaps you and your doctor can be informed regarding the symptoms of mercury toxicity. What you will read here is just the tip of the iceberg as far as symptoms are concerned. Everyone reactes differently to mercury. I hope this will help you.

The numbers at the end of each line is the percentage of people with this particular symptom. For some reason, I'm not able to line them into columns.

Unexplained irritability 73.3
Constant or frequent periods of depression 72.0
Numbness and tingling in extremities 67.3
Frequent urination during the night 64.5
Unexplained chronic fatique 63.1
Cold hands, feet, in moderate or warm weather 62.6
Bloated feeling most of the time 60.6
Difficulty with short-term memory 58.0
Sudden, unexplained, or provoked anger 55.5
Constipation on a regular basis 54.6
Difficulty in making even simple decisions 54.2
Tremors or shakes of hands, feet, head, etc. 52.3
Twitching of face and other muscles 52.3
Frequent leg cramps 49.1
Constant or frequent ringing or noice
in the ears 47.8
Shortness of breath 43.1
Frequent or recurring heartburn 42.5
Excessive itching 40.8
Unexplained rashes, skin irritation 40.4
Constant or frequent metallic taste in mouth 38.7
Jumpiness,jitteriness, and nervousness 38.1
Constant death wish or suicidal intent 37.3
Frequent insomnia 36.4
Unexplained ches