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Rosion Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 90 |
anyone else finding it impossible to come off paxil??? I have given up hope of trying :-( I am 21 and have been on the drug since I was 17. I have tried on numerous occasions to quit. Tapering down and a few times "cold turkey". I know that a lot of people have quit no problem and others have tapered down. I was on 60mg I am now on 20mg but if i even cut it down to 15 or miss a pill for one day I feel terrible. When I initally took this drug it was great for about 6months then i had to higher the dose and then it eventually stopped working. I dont know what to do anymore it has become a way of life but I am not the same person i was before. I am constantly tired, have no energy or motivation. :confused Sorry for the rant but I know people on this board understand each other. Any replies would be very greatly appreciated. R x IP: Logged |
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JennyBee Junior Member ![]() ![]() Posts: 10 |
Yes, I found out by mistake that it is hard to come off Paxil! I have been taking zoloft since I was 17 and about 4 months ago( I am 22 now) I switched to Paxil. I went on a 3 day trip and forgot my pill for the last day and I seriously thought I was going to die!!! I only take 10mg, but the withdrawls were awful! I freaked out because I was thinking-is this how my life is going to be when I don't want to take these dumb pills anymore? I couldn't stop crying, shaking, throwing up-it was bad! My fiancee wanted to take me to the hospital. I have been reading up on paxil and have read some horror stories that make me want to stop taking it but I don't know what is worse-being on it or off of it?!! I read in Glamour last month that there is a class action lawsuit against the company that makes Paxil-maybe we should join it!!! I may go back to Zoloft or try something new (but I am scared of the weight gain-paxil actually made me lose some!) I wish i had never taken anything to begin with- Just wanted to write and let you know you are not the only one out there! PAXIL IS BAD! Jen IP: Logged |
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Bellajoon Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 445 |
I really got sick going off Paxil. I didn't taper, I just quit cold turkey. I felt so sick I thought I was going to die. I remember not being able to get up off the couch the whole weekend. I didn't have any problems going off of Prozac, Effexor, Zoloft or Wellbutrin. Wellbutrin I tapered off. I haven't been taking anything now for 2 months. I am hoping with therapy I won't have to get back on. Good luck to you! IP: Logged |
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md puta Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 216 |
I'm sorry that you're having a tough time. I also read the article in Glamour that you speak of. I am having a tough time coming off of Lexapro, but nothing compared to the time that it seems most people have coming off of Paxil. Apparently the way that most people do it is to add in Prozac. I know that you're probably hesitant to mix more meds in, I certainly am! So I'm suffering through it the best I can. But anyway, I've heard a lot of people say that adding in Prozac helps a lot. Prozac is the same type of AD, it is another in the SSRI class, it has a longer half-life than most other SSRI's, so it stays in your system longer and aids in coming off of things like Paxil (and Lexapro too apparently)! Talk to your doc about mixing in Prozac. You really have to be your own medical advocate. A lot of psychiatrists seem to think that there is no such thing as antidepressant withdrawals. Boy would I love it if they would be in my position right now! :-/ Good luck! IP: Logged |
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Rosion Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 90 |
Hello my friends, thank-you for your replies :-) Jenny, i also looked up Paxil on the net there seems to be many horror stories I am beginning to wonder how they are allowed to kept this drug on the market. Depression is bad enough then the pill that is ment to cure you makes u worse? I dunno!but yes there are many people bringing the company who make paxil to court. Bellajoon, that musta been a tough time for you but fair play to you for doing it and coming out the other end. Keep up therepy!! Md, yes I heard that about adding in another drug while tapering off the other. I actually tried it with both prozac and effexor but i still had the withdrawls so i never felt any benifit from the other drug. Thanks again. R x IP: Logged |
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bawc16 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 40 |
Thank you all for the information about Paxil. My daughter who is only 14 psychialrist told me it was a sleeping pill. She has just started this drug so only has taken about 20 pills. Well that is 20 to many for me as a parent. I told her just take the 150 mg of Wellbutrin in the morning. Thanks again for the warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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SRH_NF Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 62 |
Paxil is probably the most controversial anti-depressant out there now. Many people are filing lawsuits against the company that makes it, claiming that it doesn't give a fair warning of its side effects. Myself, I was on 40mg dosages at one time, for around 2 years...quit cold turkey around five months ago. I find I still experience strange 'brain zaps', and I'm still slurring over my words. The stuff isn't fit to be on the medical market! ------------------ [This message has been edited by SRH_NF (edited 05-29-2003).] IP: Logged |
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muffinde Newbie ![]() Posts: 3 |
Hi everyone, this is my first time entering in one of these. can i just start by saying.......PAXIL IS DANGEROUS. While I am sorry to see so much suffering out there, I am also releived that the Paxil withdraw I am now going thru, I am not alone. I have joined the law suit some of you have been hearing about and I plan to follow thru. My doctor and nurse said nothing of any possible withdraw effects and acted suprised of my condition and claimed to have never heard of the law suit, yet my pharmacist has valadated everything I am feeling and the legitimacy of the law suit. Can anyone tell me when the vomiting, dizzyness, anxiety-heart palpatations, etc. will stop?????? Love and best wishes to everyone! IP: Logged |
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Jennita Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 780 |
Ignorance is bliss....this must be your doctor's favoriter saying! But really, I don't buy it for a minute that they didn't know about the lawsuit since it was highly publisized in several countries... IP: Logged |
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pattiann38 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 30 |
I took paxil for four years I believe I was up to 40 mg./day. It was the only drug that ever worked. Two years ago I quit cold turkey (I had no clue you were not supposed to do that). Nonetheless, I had not one problem and have not been on any medication since. I still get bouts of depression but I used the last two years to make changes in me and anyway so far so good I seem to be managing all right thus far. Anyway, I'm not writing to advocate or condemn paxil - honestly I think the pharmecutical industry is all about money and they need to test drugs a lot more for a lot longer than they do...but I just thought I would add my experience to the board. IP: Logged |
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limomof3 Junior Member ![]() ![]() Posts: 13 |
I started taking Paxil in 1996 for post partum depression after my first child. Stayed on it for about a year. Second child born in 1998. Went back on not long after having her. Got pregnant in 2000 (not planned) and PCP told me to "immediately" stop taking the drug because it wasn't good for fetus. WRONG ADVISE ... I became violently ill .. throwing up, head spinning, shakes, sweats ... in bed for 3 days (unable to function at all). Called OB hysterical and cried symptoms to him. He put me back on drug and kept me on low dose throughout pregnancy. Said it was better for me to be healthy and in control. After baby was born, Paxil didn't seem to work on depression. New PCP prescribed Zoloft. Started at 50 mg and still depressed, anxiety, anger .. especially before period. Went up to 100 mg ... felt blotted, constipated and still experiencing fatigue (especially prior to period). Now trying to wean self back down to 50 mg. Another major problem with these drugs ... weight gain! I use to be 140-150 prior to children. Then 170 range until about 3 years ago ... now 210 and can't get the weight off. Thyroid was tested and normal. Any suggestions on weight loss help and something to help with anger and meaness for period??? Any advise would be greatly appreciated! IP: Logged |
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Rosion Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 90 |
Hey guys!! yea whenever I tell my doctor Im addicted to paxil and cant get off it he tell me im being silly. They obviously dont know how bad it is. He said just stop taking it and ill give u something else I'm at a loss to know what to do. Its great that ive found others in the same boat though it really helps. best wishes to u all.im determinded to get off this any one tapering down at the mo??? IP: Logged |
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BrianKosh Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 125 |
Truth or close enough, about addictions to medications. Although most people think of the drugs you can be addicted to are pain killers (the real ones, not that wimpy, might as well be a sugar pill OTC stuff.) tranquilizers and a few other controlled substances. The fact is, and you really don't want to experience it, is that your body becomes accustom and used to the medication you are taking.. I don't think there is an easy way to come off most medications, with out nasty side effects, But cold turkey is a no no.. The question I have for the people who have posted in this topic, is why are you pulling yourself off the medication in the first place and two, there may be a possibly way to come off the drug you are taking. "MAY" be a way, but usually it means taking another one. Once the new one builds up a little, the paxil could then be discontinued. Yes, I know. if you are thinking, " well what do I gain being pulled from one and placed on another?" well one, you are off the paxil, which is what you wanted and because the other drug isn't as strong as paxil. So coming off of it, isn't as difficult. I find it a little strange that your doctor doesn't explain the different types of addiction, and not relating to controlled substances type of addiction. [This message has been edited by BrianKosh (edited 06-07-2003).] IP: Logged |
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MissEricaBrooke Newbie ![]() Posts: 2 |
The withdrawl symptoms do go away after a while. I was on Paxil for three years until I decieded that I did not like the sexual side effects. I thought the Paxil CR might have less, so I switched. I went through such withdrawls and sleep sweats and flu like symptons. And that was while on the same drug. So after two weeks the withdrawl syptoms had tappered a bit. Yet I still had the sexual side effects. So I switched to Serzone and tappered off the Paxil. I had the same awful withdrawl symptons for over a month. Now, I have been on the Serzone for about one month without the Paxil and I hate it. I am *****y and I well up and cry over stupid things. I only started this whole drug thing because I had social anxiety disorder and a possiblity of depression, now I feel like a complete mess. I have no clue if there are less sexual side effects because now I don't have a boyfriend. So my doctor prescribed Celexa but I don't know if that will work or if I will have withdrawl again. Anyone know about the side effects of this drug? IP: Logged |
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Jennita Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 780 |
And so the drug merry-go-round continues to go round and round.... It never stops. You can't just jump off; just make it slow down enough so you can step off gracefully and vow never to ride again. IP: Logged |
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cushy Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 54 |
Rosion, I came off of Paxil about 9 moths ago and was only able to do so with VERY slow tapering. The key for me using a pill cutter and to reduce only ONE DAY'S dose by 50% per week. What worked for me was: 1st fortnight 20mg per day except Sunday (10mg) Then repeat the whole process replacing 20mg with 10mg and 10mg with 5mg in the schedule above.....After 32 weeks you'll be on 5mg per day and can then see by trial and error the best way to taper off completely. I finshed by taking 5mg on alternate days for a week, then I was able to just to stop. Hope this helps..... With kind thoughts, Cushy [This message has been edited by cushy (edited 06-08-2003).] IP: Logged |
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normorcrazy Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 703 |
After reading these posts I have a question. I just started Paxil a little over 2 wks ago. Should I stop now or will I already experience withdrawal from it? Any suggestions...I'm taking it for Panic disorder with GAD and depression. I started on 5mg and now I'm on 10mg. IP: Logged |
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Janik Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 697 |
Normor, two weeks is not enough time to develop dependence, so my guess is, if you stop now you'd be OK. Of course, two weeks is not enough time for the Paxil to kick in. If you stop now, you will never now if it was right for you. Though I don't think Paxil or any SSRI is good for GAD or panic attacks. In my case, it was an SSRI what triggered my panic attacks. Whatever you decide to to, talk to your doctor first. Of course, by now it sounds as if they don't know zit. But at least you'll be able to sue someone if things go wrong. In the meantime, try some therapy. It's more effective than drugs, has no side effects and does not build up tolerance or create dependence. IP: Logged |
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scarycary43 Newbie ![]() Posts: 3 |
So glad to find this Health Board site. I had (have) been on Paxil for over 6 years when the shrink and I decided to get off it. But what he should have shared with me was the amount of time it takes to get off Paxil. I was on 40mg/day initally and tapered off slowly to 5mg every other day. I really thought I was doing well until I could no longer stand the Brain Zaps I was experiencing. Other symptoms, I could deal with, but the zaps are the worst. So looks to me, I still need that little bit to get me by. IP: Logged |
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camper76 Newbie ![]() Posts: 1 |
I have been suffering from depression all my life. (I'm a 46 year old female).I have been on Effexor for the last 7 years and it's basically saved my life. On the other hand, I am having two side effects that are making it intolerable are sexual disfunction and constipation. I have tried these other drugs: Paxil, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, and Prozac. None have worked for me. My dr. has also prescibed Viagra and Neurontin at different times to see if it would help my sex drive. Nothing helped. My husband says he doesn't mind but I do! I have no desire at all. I remember on one of my drug changes it felt like my body came back to life, which was wonderful, if I hadn't been crying the whole time!! What's a person to do??? It's a real condundrum! Any suggestions? Thanks IP: Logged |
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Jennita Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 780 |
I find it interesting that the LSD experiments in the 1960's lead to the developement of the depression drugs of today...LSD works on serotonin and has a side effect of mood-lifting too. Serotonin is a good thing, but it isn't good at higher levels (aka serotonin syndrome). So how do they know what level your serotonin is really at in your brain right now? Well, they don't, because there is no physical test to determine this, unlike the infamous diabetes and blood pressure comparison, which they can measure those amounts. They only know serotonin stimulation helps mood, and from this they assume people are deficient. So it is not scientific fact but theory that leads to these prescriptions. Now some new independent studies(not paid for by drug companies) are suggesting the brain eventually kills off it's own serotonin receptors in an effort to combat the over use of serotonin caused by antidepressants over several years use. So, are these wonder-drugs helpful and can work to alleviate depression but be destructive at the same time? Also, anything that effects mood and the brain is bound to be somewhat addictive, or better put, cause dependancy. So there will be the withdrawal feelings as Rosion is experiencing; only thing to do is taper down very slowly and allow at least two weeks inbetween cuts for the brain to have a chance to adjust. IP: Logged |
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jinglebts Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 543 |
for what it's worth, i had no trouble coming off paxil and think it's a great drug ... IP: Logged |
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Jennita Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 780 |
With all the horror stories (look up Paxil withdrawals on the net) floating around out there, consider yourself a lucky one indeed... IP: Logged |
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cushy Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 54 |
Interestingly the British government today withdrew support for the prescription of Seroxat(Paxil) to those under 18 in the UK..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2976498.stm It will be interesting to see if the US FDA will follow suit. My guess is that they won't...... [This message has been edited by cushy (edited 06-10-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Rosion Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 90 |
hey all hope everyones keeping well. I heard those things in the news today and saw something on sky news saying that people under 18 shouldnt be given this drug. More and more bad things about paxil are coming to light and even the manufacturers have addmitted it(well some of it).I think its really scary. IP: Logged |
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Rosion Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 90 |
hey all hope everyones keeping well. I heard those things in the news today and saw something on sky news saying that people under 18 shouldnt be given this drug. More and more bad things about paxil are coming to light and even the manufacturers have addmitted it(well some of it).I think its really scary. IP: Logged |
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Janik Senior Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 697 |
quote: Good for you! There's a lot of people who never experience withdrawal. I don't know the exact percentage, of course, but I don't want everyone reading these posts to be scared of their meds. They can really be helpful but they should not be taken forever. And even those who suffer withdrawal can minimize their symptoms by setting themselves on slow taper schedules. [This message has been edited by Janik (edited 06-10-2003).] IP: Logged |
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kate03 Newbie ![]() Posts: 5 |
Hi, I'm sorry to say this stuff IS very addicting..I have tried SEVERAL times to stop it...I have tried gradually and cold turkey...it was the SAME effect either way I did it...the symptoms are hell...dizziness beyond belief...brain zaps...abdominal pain...just to name a few...I was put on it for anxiety about 4 yrs ago...with my Dr telling me this was NOT addicting...Well it IS..I strongly suggest NOT taking this...ask for something else.. Stay strong and DON'T give up.."I'm" NOT going to..I refuse to let this medication beat me..Take care and I wish you good luck. Kate IP: Logged |
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Forrester Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 313 |
I can only repeat what everyone else has said. Gradually taper off this drug and try something else. If your doctor is not compliant with this, find another doctor. And another. And another. 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinion. We have to be informed consumers now, self-advocates and look out for ourselves. Psychiatrists do not appear to look out for us. I like psychotherapists, though. Paxil has been the only thing that has ever worked for me. However, for me, it wears off after a year and a half, so I went off of it once (after it lost its effect), then I took nothing for a while, then I went back on Paxil for about 6 mos. Now I'm going off of it because I don't feel it has the same effect. And each time I go off of it, it is the same thing, even with gradual tapering. Massive withdrawal symptoms. I am going through them right now. Massive headache, splitting so much I have to hold my head and massage it. Terrible dizziness, nausea, etc. But I am determined to finish off this tapering and not let this drug get me down. Since it doesn't work anymore, and since no other ones work for me (too many terrible side effects), I'm going to buy a light box and use that. I'm also going to do meditation, yoga, breathing exercises, do walking and other exercise, and proper nutrition to combat depression. I know others don't have that option-they have to use a drug in order to function. However, I don't want to use drugs anymore right now. Although I am very sorry to hear about others' stories, I am also relieved to see I'm not the only one going through this right now. I am tempted to join the lawsuit, but not sure if I want to be made public that I was using this drug. I don't know. Anyway, hang in there. Hopefully you can taper off over a weekend so you have a couple of days of not working so the side effects do not affect your performance at work. IP: Logged |
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tmooreLPN Junior Member ![]() ![]() Posts: 7 |
My dad was on Paxil for almost three years and his doctor switched him over to Prozac and had no problems. Paxil was heaven sent for my dad who has frequent panic attacks. I unfortunately have inherited the panic attacks but so far have done all right without medication. IP: Logged |
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