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resolnaisa
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posted 09-09-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for resolnaisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't have any kind of equipment or anything like that but i need some good abdominal exercises because there's so much crap out on the internet that it's hard to figure out what actually works. also, someone on here has said that abs are an endurance muscle, so you can work them out as often as you'd run, but then i just read about someone saying they needed rest too and you should only work them out once a week or something. anyone know the right answer? thanks for any help

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posted 09-09-2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PartTwo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing like good ol' crunches and lying leg raises (dunno what they're actually called but you lie down and raise your legs while keeping them straight) to work your abs. Do that a couple times a week along with cardio, and you'll see results similar to those using fancy equipment and gimmicks.

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posted 09-10-2002 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dmc28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found personally that you can work abs out more than other muscles. If you are doing resistance crunches on a machine or with free weights, really challenging the muscle like you would to another muscle, then I would work it out as much as another muscle. However, if you are simply doing some crunches I feel that you can work them out more often.

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posted 09-10-2002 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for resolnaisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm paranoid about not doing these things exactly correct, so could you guys tell me how i should do these leg raises or crunches? i already do them...but i'm not sure if i'm doing it right...

thanks alot

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posted 09-11-2002 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABOMB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lie flat on your back, put your hands palm down under your *** , elevate your whole body so that its balanced on your hands. Next keep your feet straight out and lift them about 12 inches hold then lower them back an inch off the ground do as many as you can. About 3 sets of these I do every day.

Or you can take some weight maybe a backpack full of books hold it against your chest and do regular crunches, the weight helps trust me.

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posted 09-12-2002 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ugotme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exercise1.htm

There is an abdominals section which shows the full range of motion for each exercise. Be sure to grab it before the stingy mods decide to delete this entry.

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posted 09-12-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zooropa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats a great site.. i knew of another one that explained exercises but not as detailed like that!

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posted 09-14-2002 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wannababy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you should try the exercise ball it really works.

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posted 09-15-2002 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkwolfofvoid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah, abs, an area of muscle that when is in great condition, you feel good! (even though i have a gut in the way! it still feels good being able to have the control of my body the abs give).

There isn't any "endurance muscle" as i know. The abs are a muscle like the others, but they can be worked out a lot more, probably because of the type of contraction they give and all the other muscles associated. Some people will tell you that you can't work a muscle everyday ... if you're working endurance, yes you can. If you're at that level. One coach i know has been running all his life, is in great .. great shape! and is tiny but stronger than most people i know! it's strange because he doesn't actualy have the muscle mass to do what he can do! lol But he works his abs every day, a few times a day! I'm in three of his classes so i get them twice in one day, three days a week! (in his class, i do them on my own at other times).

Anyway, it comes down to how you're working them. If you do cable crunches or something that adds poundage and do slow controlled contractions, you're going for strength and generally you don't do that everyday, but a couple days a week (some will say just one).

Moving on though, you only need a few ab workouts to get great results, it just depends on what you're going for.

So:

* bicycle kicks/lying ab twists:

lay on your back, legs up like you're going to do crunches, with hands behind your head, fingers locked, curl up and bring the right elbow to left knee, then left elbow to right knee, continue this twisting motion quickly. This is a great all around mid section endurance workout! especially at the end of your workout. I've seen some do an 'advanced' version of this by doing the bicycle kicks, personally i don't feel like trying to be that coordinated, it's hard enough to stay up just doing the ab twists lol (you do them fast, you slide around and can fall over!).

* crunches:

You can do these slow with tight contractions or quickly for endurance burn. It really isolates the upper part of the abdominals. Note that arm position plays a large part in all of this. To really isolated the upper abs, i find sticking your arms straight out to the side really hits it, while going for that tight controlled contraction, hands down by your sides is good. In one of my classes though we do four different hand positions and with one leg on the ground bent up and the other leg crossd over it and then switch half way through the set (arm position). Going from arm positions of hands together straight up, hands outward to the sides, hands down by the sides and hands together and going up between the calf and leg crossed. Followed by what's next:

* oblique crunches:

Laying on your side, you can do these many ways, but i find one leg bent on the ground, the other one straight and raised a little. Keeping one hand going above your head, with your finger tips touching your head but make sure not to pull your head up, the other hand extended down along your raised leg and crunche sideways, i find focusing on that hand and reaching it down the length of your leg really brings your body up and contracts those obliques.

* reverse crunch/leg lifts:

Basically this motion is to hit the lower abs by a rolling motion of the hips. the reverse crunch is the same positin of the crunch with the legs up, but instead of rolling off your shoulder blades, you roll your knees up to your chest, or your head for a better stretch. The pattern is best used to hit muscle groups if these are done first and then crunches afterwards. These can also be done 'quickly' (not that quickly though) or slowly and on some kind of incline/decline for a better contraction. The leg lifts are with your legs straight up and instead of rolling your hips you push straight up, having your hands down by your sides and can help push the hips up and keep them straight, try not to roll them though.

I find it best to hit the muscles though in this order: lower, upper, obliques and then finish with those ab twists! Great endurance workout.

And i stress STRETCH, roll onto your stomach and with your hands push your upper body up as far as yo ucan and look up and get an ab stretch and make sure you breathe while doing this and hold for at least 30 seconds.

Hope this helps.

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posted 09-17-2002 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wfy trainer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. I own an online personal training business and I have found that what ab exercise you do is less important than how you do the exercise. Probably the key point is to concentrate, concentrate, concentrate. Really think about the muscles you are working (the abdominals).

Good technique is essential. If you are doing work lying on your back, then remember to protect your lower back by maintaining a flat back (think tilt your pelvis), make sure the abs are doing all the work (not your head, neck, or shoulders causing you to lift up), breath properly and keep your belly button pulled toward the ground. Remember slow and smooth movements.

That said, a great idea is to try ab exercises that are not done while lying flat on your back. There are tons of them. I'll describe a couple here (hope it makes sense -- it would be easier to see with my video demos):

Standing Circle: Stand tall and hold a small towel (or resistance band) taut overhead. Contract abs and slowly draw a large, wide circle over your head and around your torso with your hands. Keep towel pulled taut throughout.


Half V-Sit: Sit back with knees bent, elbows bent with hands behind you, and shift your body weight into your hands. Contract your abs while you lift your legs unitl straight and out about a 45 degree angle in the air. Find your center of balance and shift weight to a comfortable position (but a position where you can feel resistance in your abs). Hold this position for as long as you can.

Knee Rotation:
Kneel on hands and knees, keep back flat. Place one right hand behind head and curl torso down, reaching elbow toward left thigh. Don't rotate your hips, keep them even. Hold for a few seconds return start and repeat. Don't forget to switch to other side.

Good Luck!

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posted 09-17-2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkwolfofvoid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the primarey importance in any exercise is technique and form, but don't neglect what kind of ab work you're doing. The mid-section is full of a lot of different muscles and areas to work.

I have a links section on my site that has a page with "alternative" ab workouts that aren't crunches, i found them very interesting and work your muscles through a bunch of different motions, but frankly, i don't care. I still like my crunches! I believe if you're not getting that type of tight hard contraction that crunches give, you're never going to get the type of abs I was going for, which are big and strong ones. Which now i'm going for endurance which is why i'd be happy to burn out crunches over a period of time. But with methods like being in pushup position and stuff, you're of course targetting the abdominals and they are having a workout, but the contraction in that position is a stabalization, hardly the tight hard contraction of doing a crunch.

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posted 09-18-2002 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bicycle kicks have worked wonders for me.

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