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cindeerella29
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posted 07-30-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got some lab work back and my total cholesterol is 204, but my HDL is 29 and my LDL says 175, and my triglycerides are 390, so how can my total be 204? And also what conditions would cause my cholesterol to SKY ROCKET in 8 1/2 months?

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posted 07-30-2003 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ARIZONA73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your HDL, LDL, and triglycerides are correct, then your total cholesterol would be 282. I don't know what your numbers were before, but I am assuming things were not anywhere near what they are now. You could have the test repeated to verify that these numbers are correct. One possible reason for such marked elevations is an underactive thyroid, so you may want to investigate that possibility.

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posted 07-30-2003 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well prior to this my LDL was 34 my HDL was 104 and my tryglycerides were 123...so there is a SIGNIFICANT rise, I don't really work out but I'm kinda freaked that if I do I will fall over and die, I am not taking any medications for my cholesterol, and my blood pressure spikes to 170's systolic, and 92 diastolic...so any more suggestions is appreciated.

Also, I have NO medical coverage ne more, can't afford it and there is no free programs I can go to

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posted 07-31-2003 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ubernier     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cindeerella:

When I was in my non-exercise portion of my life, my cholesterol profile was much worse than yours (lower HDL than 34), and slightly higher LDL than 104, plus my triglycerides were up in the 400s prior to medication.

With a little exercise (even walking) daily, it will more than likely lower your triglycerides, raise HDL a bit and probably lower HDL a little. At a slow pace you won't fall over and die, true?

Of course, this is assuming that you don't change your current diet in a negative direction. You can also obtain additional benefit if you have any excess weight to lose. As Arizona explained in a recent post, the less excess poundage you carry, combined with the more you exercise translates to more rapid use of carbs, and a lower triglyceride reading.

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posted 07-31-2003 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zip2play     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cindeerella,

Usually what comes back is something like: "LDL value is not calculated when triglycerides are over 300"

In this case it looks like somebody did the calculation anyway and improperly ignored the triglycerides completely.

Best get the test redone, and make sure it's a completely fasted sample. Don't go overboard with sweets the night before (unless you do every night- then go with it to get a true reading).

Do try to get the HDL's up with some fish oils and lower the saturated fats (and ELIMINATE the trans fats as closely as you can.) Those low HDL's are the worst part of your picture (I'm assuming the HDL and LDL are reversed in your second post.)

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posted 07-31-2003 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I went to a urgent care center to get some things checked out, and they did a lipid panel, without me fasting, that day I ate only a half of egg salad sandwhich, 2 pieces of bell pepper, and some ground turkey with beans...so that might be a reason why the tryglycerides were high, cause I just got done eating that half sandwhich only 1 hour prior to the test.

I have been watching what I eat, I haven't eaten any meat since the test, but that is by choice, and I have been eating lots of fruits and veggies, and have been walking, so I will probably retest just to make sure that is accurate.

The first time I had the cholesterol test done, I was at a more active stage in my life, working as a CNA, but I was NOT eating right, so thanks for all the help ppl.

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posted 07-31-2003 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and the LDL was calculated along with HDL and tryglycerides, so I will definately retest!

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posted 07-31-2003 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pcovers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cindeerella29:
Oh, and the LDL was calculated along with HDL and tryglycerides, so I will definately retest!

You can't calculate LDL, HDL, and Trigs from your total. And your LDL could not have been calculated based on your trigs as your trigs were too high.

_ _ _ Then_ _ _ _Now
LDL_ _ _34__ _ _ _175
HDL_ _ 104_ _ _ _ 29
Trigs_ 123_ _ _ _390
Total_ 163_ _ _ _204

If your first set of numbers are even remotely correct, you are in excellent shape. As you said, you need a new test. Something is definitely not right here.

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posted 07-31-2003 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ubernier     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and make sure you are fasting too

Thats one way to make your triglycerides go into orbit. I am beginning to wonder if mine, which get flagged for being too low, result from not eating and doing my 3 mile run in the morning, then having a blood draw. My TGs have ranged in the 30s and 40s the last 5 or so blood draws.

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posted 07-31-2003 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first lipid test was performed at Kaiser, and the second was performed at a urgent care clinic, and they sent it off to unilab. I am thinking about retesting cause the first one I did fast for because the doctor had told me not to eat for 12 hours, and since the second test was at a urgent care clinic, I did not fast. And thanks for the info, cause they did calculate, cholesterol total, LDL, HDL, and Tryglycerides, and since u2 have said they cannot calculate when tryglycerides are so high, I REALLY need to get this checked out, thank you

And BTW, the doctor from Kaiser did say that everything looked alright except I needed to raise my good cholesterol by exercising more.

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posted 07-31-2003 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry made a mistake, my tryglycerides are 214, and total is 204, and my LDL is 175 my HDL is 34 SORRY EVERYONE MADE A MISTAKE!!! Now again

HDL-29
LDL-175
Tryglycerides-214
Total Cholesterol-204

Ok, so now, what do these numbers mean? I am looking at the test right now, and says I am at 4.95 risk for heart disease because of these numbers

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posted 07-31-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ARIZONA73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cindeerella-- I'm sorry, but these numbers don't quite add up either. With your HDL, LDL, and triglycerides being as they are, your total cholesterol calculates out to 247, not 204. So something isn't right here. Also, I can't understand where that 4.95 risk factor is coming from. It sounds like a ratio, but a ratio of what?

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posted 07-31-2003 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ubernier     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest Cind:

I would take steps to change some of those a bit (OK, a lot).

If you have weight to lose, try to lose it, if you don't exercise, start.

You want that HDL to come up substantially, the LDL to drop and the triglycerides to come down. If the two above qualify for you (weight loss, exercise) then possibly you can do this without medication, but you have to be serious about it.

Take a look at my post, examine my numbers from January 2002, and you will see my cholesterol is similar to yours. You probably won't run the same detrimental course as me, well hopefully not at least. However, knowing what I know now, I would take serious action to bring change that ratio heavily, and get those TGs down.

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posted 08-01-2003 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pcovers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There clearly is still confusion over your numbers beacause as arizona said, they don't add up. You NEED to get a retest and find out exactly where you stand. If however your LDL is anywhere near 175 and your HDL is at 29, you have serious work to do to get the one lower and the other higher.

Get a new test, talk to your doctore, then come back here for some very good layman recommendations.

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posted 08-01-2003 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindeerella29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I have got the paper right in front of me now, my Glucose is 132, not fasting, and for Lipid Profile my
Total Cholesterol 204
Triglyerides 214
VLDL Cholesterol (Calculated) 43
LDL Cholesterol 134
HDL 27
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio 7.6
Cardiac Risk Factor: Above average risk
LDL/HDL Ratio 4.96 Above average risk

along with that they did a iron binding capicity, which I have no idea what good that is for, but total iron is fine, its 40, total iron binding capacity is 374 which says is fine, but % transferrin saturation is 11 which is low. and also my white blood cell count is high its 12.1, which is higher than previous which was 9.2. and what is also high is my Neutrophils which is 8.7. I also have a high CPK total and high CK%, if you would like I could scan and probably send them to anyone who can help me find out what is wrong.

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