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sissywoman
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posted 06-09-2003 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sissywoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a white woman with a black b/f. My family and friends seem okay with my relationship except I can sense an underlying layer of tension.
The jokes I can handle, its just that I know there is alot of hidden disapproval and its really bothering me. When I confront anyone, they laugh and say I'm being silly.
Can anyone else relate?

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posted 06-09-2003 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyfskm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am white and I have a bi-racial daughter with my ex, who is black. There will always be disapproval somewhere, you just need to learn to deal with it and not let it affect your life.

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posted 06-09-2003 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyfskm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, it's me again. My above reply was short because I had to pick my daughter up from school. Anyway...

Like I said, my ex is black and we were together for years. Some of my family liked him, but most did not. With many of them, it wasn't the color of his skin that bothered them, it was the way he treated me. He was very abusive and lied and cheated all through our relationship. BUT, for some, the problem was because he's black. My mom (legal guardian) thought nothing of it but my dad (legal guardian) hated it, which led to fights between them, and ultimately a divorce. I had my daughter and I broke up with her dad for good when she was 12 months old. My father did not speak to me for years, until the day before I moved away. He finally told me he regretted what he did and now we are very close and he loves my daughter, no matter what her skin color is.

In my family, you were raised to date your color only, which is wrong. I went against them and did what I wanted to. I never saw color, but I lost a lot. My favorite uncle has not spoken to me in 10 years. Some people simply can't change. In my case, I knew there was hidden disapproval, no matter what they said.

Now I've grown up and I'm married to a white man and have 2 white children, along with my mixed daughter. My husband works with a few guys who are very racist and they always ask him how he could be with me since I was with "one of them". That disgusts me but I've learned to never let anyone see it bother me. I can only imagine what my daughter will have to go through when she gets older.

Like I said before, there will ALWAYS be someone somewhere who disapproves. Don't give them a second thought. Do what's right for you, because it's YOU that has to live your life, not them.

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starlighteyes32
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posted 06-09-2003 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlighteyes32     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with what you said Flyfskm... We can not change how our friends or family think.. We have to do what we want in out lives.. Being in an interacial relationship is not an easy thing.. But the final decision is left up to you. In my belives the color of skin is only is just that skin deep.. Remove the skin and and we all have the same exact thing. A heart and all the other things that human bodies have. You care for your boy friend for who he is in the inside.. That is exactly how i am raising my kids.. You love and accept everyone for who they are, not for what they do or do not look like.. YOu will have to be ready to beable to accept or tolerate others opnions.. But in the end it is your life and you have to do what makes you happy.. So be strong and remember Follow your heart.. It is your life not theirs.. star

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sissywoman
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posted 06-09-2003 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sissywoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear flyfskm and starlighteyes32,
You guys are so great! I felt down all day and you two gave me some hope. Thank-you so much!!!!!!

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posted 06-10-2003 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jasmine30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sissy,
I can relate to what you said,however my boyfriends arent allowed in my dads home..and thats all Im gonna say because I may word something wrongly that offends when I dont mean to offend.

Iam NOT prejudice or racist..never have been and never will be...I could say other things how my Dad feels but I wont...

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ThinkBig
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posted 06-10-2003 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThinkBig     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone. The title of your post, sissygirl, is what drew me to your post. I have never been in an interracial relationship before. I have, however, always been interested in the subjects of racism, interracial relationships, and prejudice altogether. I am white and in love with a Dominican woman. Most people only think of interracial as a white person dating a black person (forgive me if the term "black" is offensive to anyone in any way). However, if I ended up dating this woman, as you can see, we'd be an interracial couple. So I can't say that I know EXACTLY what you're going through, but I have a semblance of an idea. I responded because I have a piece of advice for you that is going to sound a bit harsh, except not harsh to you, just in the way that I put it. And that would be: Don't care what anyone thinks. Believe me, there can't be anything worse of having your family disapprove of your choices. When I say don't care I mean don't let it affect any of your decisions. That's the philosophy I try to live by. Believe it or not, a magazine article turned me on to that way of thinking. It was actually an article in Men's Health about the "Old School Male." But I think the aforementioned principle applies to everyone. YOu can't change how some people think. You can, however, try not to let it affect you as much. so what I wil;l leave you with, is let your family have their opinions but pleae don't let them dictate your life. You'll never be happy that way. good luck with everything. BTW: I am going away for tyhe week and will be back on Monday. If you respond, please don't take it as me being rude since
I won't be able to get to a computer. As soon as I gert home, the first thing I will do is check my email and this board. Take care.

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sissywoman
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posted 06-10-2003 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sissywoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear ThinkBig,
Thank-you so much. Your words were very kind.
We knew when we got together that there were going to be problems with our families and friends. (not all of them, thank goodness! Some of my friends are even jealous of me!)
I just didn't think most of the the resentment would be so subtle. But you can see it, just below the surface.
Not all of it of course. One of his friends told him I was just a trophy, and there have been quite a few things yelled at us from passing cars when we walk down the street. And some people don't even try to hide their looks of disgust when we are standing in a check-out line at a store, holding hands.
Heck, I even posted on the women's sexuality board because I have a problem with, and I don't want to sound stereotypical, but he does have a very large penis, anyway, I have a small vagina and I sometimes have a problem with tearing.
Well, someone told me the way to solve my problem was to get rid of "Monkey Boy".
I also live in a town that is not very diverse. About 85% white and 15% other.
I do get blue about it, but I am glad I found such wonderful people, like you, who can relate.

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ThinkBig
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posted 06-10-2003 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThinkBig     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I haven't left yet so I will be able to respond to your post sissygirl. In reading your post I assume you live in a suburban area. The way I look at this, this is ture this is not just covering anything up, but the people with the problems are the ones who stare and yell. Technically, they're butitng in to your business. People like that make me sick sometimes. I don't know if I said this before, but anotehr way I look at things is that while you may be embarrased or possible self concious when poeople yell or stare, think of this: you don't have to let them know that. Don't even give them the satisfaction of knowing that they may be getting to you. Another thing about people like that is simply what goes around comes around. The people who make fun of you are prob the onee with other problems you could easily exploit and probably tear them to shreds. Just remember, they're not even worth doing that. I want you to do this: think of where you might be now if you did EVERYTHING your family wanted you to do that was different from what you wanted to do. BTW: prob u wanna keep that to urself but think- would u be the same today, better off, or worse?

This board is indeed great. I feel confident knowin that noone will pass judgement on me when I have legit problems. NOW I'M getting ready to go on my little trip. HOTLANTA!!!!! so i've heard could turn out to be MYLANTA! :-) but i live on long island and LOVE urban area so im sure to lvoe it. please keep in touch let us all know how eveything is going. Take care.

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posted 06-10-2003 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xKaShyLahx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monkey boy? eh?thats so ignorant
Being a black person myself, i know that people like to sterotype us. Believe me i've had my fair share of racist slurrs, been judged by my colour, watched as i've walked around a store, been turned down for jobs etc..thats just to name afew. It's ashame society is like this but what can we do.

I personally wouldn't date someone outside my race. Im not racist, prejudice etc.. believe me i know what its like to be racially abused plus i have friends of different races and i have white in my family, but b/c of my own experience and how other races have treated me. Don't get me wrong i have come across some lovely white people, but as far as relationship...probably not

I hope i didn't offend anyone, b/c that's not my intention and sissywoman, you shouldn't care what anybody thinks b/c it's not about what makes other people happy its about YOU! and if you really love this guy you'd be with him regardless of what others think

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posted 06-10-2003 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wjp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm white and my husband is black....it's no big deal. If someone gives you a hard time about it then you just tell them what you think of their opinion and avoid them in the future. That includes family and so called "friends". I mean, do you really need people like that in your lives?

I'm wondering what you mean about "jokes" and how you "handle" them. You should never tolerate racial jokes or slurs. It's a form of racism even if it seems harmless. If you had a bi-racial child would you tolerate that kind of behavior towards or around them?

Being in a bi-racial relationship is what you make of it. If you're not comfortable with it you can't expect anyone else to be. For me, I am simply in a relationship....period. I do not think of it in terms of color and don't hang out with people who see it that way. That goes for the friends of both of us, as racism can run both ways.

My motto is this "If you don't like my life feel free to get the hell out of it".

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posted 06-11-2003 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiffyBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am asian living in Argentina (all white). Since I came to live in this country I have not been interested in asian guys.

When I go out with the guy I am dating right now, I find that the only people looking at us are.. asians. It really amuses us because they blantantly stare at us.

At first his parents were against seeing me and I think he told them we were just friends and that we would never be involved seriously... I felt real sad when he told me that but I hid my face of dissapointment in front of me.

Many times I felt hurt because all the guys I date think of me as a trophy because asian girls are hard to get for white guys since we tend to date people of our own race and country.

I really don't see what's wrong with interracial relationships. You live in a big country with people from many countries and races and it is common sense that many of them will end up with people out of their race.

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fishyfish
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posted 06-12-2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishyfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sissywoman,

I'm white and my wife is mixed (black and white). We have 2 kids that both pretty much look white. You would have to have a pretty good eye to tell otherwise. I think the area you live in and the cultural exposure of the people you surround yourself with makes a difference. We never notice any comments, looks or even a general sense of someones disapproval.
However if I did I wouldn't care. My wife is a little more sensitive, but I could care less. If someone were to express their disapproval, then they would not only be expressing an opinion I never asked for but expressing their ignorance and lack of exposure to the world around them anyway. They might as well announce all their fears and weaknesses.

My biggest concern is for my children. They will deal with prejudiceness and racism around people who ASSUME that they are all white. People will make jokes around them that might hurt their feelings and they will have to deal with it and grow from it.

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posted 06-12-2003 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DonutsNCoffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sissywoman,

You have to keep in mind that a person's family will always find something to dislike about whoever they bring home. It could be their occupation, their religion, their age, or their political views. In the end, you don't need their approval, just their acceptance. And if they can't offer that, then they've done you a big favor because now you know who they really are. If you continue to sense underlying tension from family or friends, I'd ask them about it. Don't let it go unanswered cause that just makes the situation worse for everyone involved. And I personally would not tolerate jokes about a person's race, no matter how harmless they may seem.

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posted 06-12-2003 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dianabarry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father is brown, and I look white, and when we go out, people give us weird looks. just ignore it. they give me the "what is she doing with him?" looks. it comes with the territory. just don't let it bother you.

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posted 06-12-2003 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishyfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone once asked if my wife was the nanny.
it just doesn't matta'

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ThinkBig
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posted 06-24-2003 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThinkBig     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. Just wanted to your situation has been going lately. Just remember what I told you a couple of weeks ago. Don't let anyone know thqat they're thoughts may be affecting you. Don't give them the satisfaction. good luck, keep us all posted.

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posted 06-25-2003 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilaugh@myself.why     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well.. i'm not sure if i can relate.. even tho i've actually never been in a real relationship with someone of my own race..

my first real grlfriend was black/puerto rican/indian..
in that relationship my family didn't have any tension about it.. just alot of questions..

my second grlfriend and most current grlfriend is white/chinese..
i imagine she looks purely chinese to the untrained eye but my family has no problems.. in fact they're in love with her as much as me..

and i live in northern maine where it's almost completely white..
thankfully diversity is slowly (very slowly) making its way into the northern part of the state..

[This message has been edited by ilaugh@myself.why (edited 06-25-2003).]

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sissywoman
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posted 06-25-2003 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sissywoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank-you all so much for your comments, it really helps alot. Sometimes it's hard to believe we are in the 21st century and people still have an issue with skin color. I found some wonderful quotes I'd like to share:
"The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist; because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance." -Benjamin Disraeli

"At the heart of racism is the assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being." -Friedrich Otto Hertz

Thank-you all!

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