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    Old 09-27-2007, 11:36 AM   #1
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    Having problems talking and changing of my voice...hard to sing now...etc.

    ok for about 2 months now I noticed a change in my voice...the way I sound and I was getting really concerned and worried about it.....and wondered what it was...I didn't like the way my voice changed or sounded so I stopped talking 2 people as much...and now still that way since about 2 months ago...So I set up a appointment with a Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor and saw him today....he told me I have allergies and Acid Reflux disease and put me on Nexium for acid reflux and Nasacort for the allergies...I just wanna know when my voice will come back...it's hard for me 2 talk sometimes...I sound so low and I never used too...also I feel a lump in the throat everytime I swallow and they told me it was a sensation of a lump from acid reflux disease...

    The thing is if I have acid reflux disease what are the symtoms cuz the only thing i feel is the sensaiton of lump in throat and change and horseness of voice...what other symtomps do oyu get....I just wanna know that he didn't misdiagnous me..plz help really worried and concerned

    I was planning on taking singing lessons with a friend recently and now can't because of this...when will my voice come back....

    Also when I saw the Ear, Nose and Throat specialist he put some instrument down my nose and into my throat and he gave me this anceetic (don't know how to spell it) that made it more bearable to put the instrument down my nose into throat and a few minutes later that anesthetic helped bing my voice back...has anybody else had this happened to them...I felt so happy but then my voice went back to sounding horrible and hoarse and not like mine...so what's the problem...anybody can help really annyoed and depressed about this...thanks

     
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    Old 09-27-2007, 04:59 PM   #2
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    Re: Having problems talking and changing of my voice...hard to sing now...etc.

    can anyone help me out here and answer these questions....i'm really concerned and worried about this...thanks again

     
    Old 09-27-2007, 06:03 PM   #3
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    Re: Having problems talking and changing of my voice...hard to sing now...etc.

    The type of reflux you have is laryngealpharyngeal reflux (LPR). Many people with LPR don't have classic acid reflux symptoms such as heartburn. My main symptoms are the lump in throat feeling, ear pain and morning hoarseness. It sounds like your dr. made a correct diagnoses with the scope. LPR can be a very complicated and difficult disease to treat. I am currently on my second PPI and still waiting for some signs of improvement. Try to relax ( I know that's very hard to do when you feel so rotten) and give the meds time to work. I have heard it can take months to heal.

    Hope this helps some.

     
    Old 09-27-2007, 06:47 PM   #4
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    ok thanks...but what's LPR and PPI? Also how do these problems start? I really think it's from medicaiton I was taking before all this craziness could that be true...? I don't think it started by the way I was eating...

    also so your saying my voice will come back to being normal again...meaning sounding the way it used to sound...

     
    Old 09-27-2007, 10:28 PM   #5
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    Re: Having problems talking and changing of my voice...hard to sing now...etc.

    Hi Kis86! Your sypmtoms are identical to mine and today I was diagnosed with acid reflux. My problem is so bad that I've had to have my esophagus widened with a balloon just so that I can continue to eat and drink! I went to the doc today with sore ears and hoarseness(also feel the lump in my throat). After two upper GI's( scope down the throat) I was diagnosed with esophagitis caused by acid reflux. I also sing and my voice is changing( I stay hoarse)! I suppose that when I can get a handle on the acid reflux, then my voice will return.

    Good Luck!
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    Old 09-28-2007, 04:16 AM   #6
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    ok thanks...but what's LPR and PPI? Also how do these problems start? I really think it's from medicaiton I was taking before all this craziness could that be true...? I don't think it started by the way I was eating...

    also so your saying my voice will come back to being normal again...meaning sounding the way it used to sound...
    Laryngopharyngeal Reflux (LPR) happens when food or stomach acid reaches all the way back up into the larynx (the voice box) or the pharynx (the throat). PPIs (proton pump inhibitors)are medications such as Prevacid and Nexium prescribed to reduce acid. I don't know how this disease starts; some think it's over use of certain medications like anti-biotics,over the counter or prescription pain meds. I've heard that it can start after experiencing a traumatic event in your life. I can't say for sure what caused mine. It seemed to start suddenly and has gradually progressed.

    My dr. seems puzzled by my case. I've had the barium swallow done and a throat scope. He said I have inflammation in my throat but the PPIs he has prescribed haven't helped.

    I hope you ( and all of us) find a solution to this someday soon! Good luck!

     
    Old 09-28-2007, 02:08 PM   #7
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    Have had the same problem. Began in May of this year (and I cringle when I read about those who have suffered for such long periods of time as some of you have/are) Mine began while I was taking Chantax to stop smoking. It began with the typical reflux of food and heartburn, lasted for a few weeks and then stopped. A few weeks later I began to have pain on my sternum/breastbone. Concerned, I asked my GYN (during a routine visit) to run whatever tests to find the source of the pain. A sonogram ruled out gallstones. I had a whole slew of tests for my heart less than 1 year ago and knew all was well.

    I was then sent to a gastro Dr. While waiting the week or so for the appt, I began to lose my voice and have loads of phlegm. I thought it was from stopping smoking, but it just got worse.

    The gastro guy scheduled a scope, but started me on aciphex once per day while waiting for the test. withink 1/2hr of taking the 1st Aciphex, my voice began to clear!! I was SOOO happy! BUT..my voice was still not normal, and still I kept having coughing and chocking eppisodes! The Dr found H-Pylori while scoping. During the two week treatment for H-Pylori my voice was pretty good. Almost as soon as stopping the treatment however, I again began to have issues with my throat. Coughing, losing my voice, scratchy throat, constant throat clearing, painful ear and throat. Even my eyes would water up as would my nostrils fill up. It was awful! I again went to the gastro doc. He increased the aciphex to twice per day. (which is what I was taking while on the two week treatment for the Pylori) This helped a lot.

    BUT..

    Again it was acting up and although better, it was FAR from gone.

    Of course..having been a smoker, and having the sternum pain etc..gave me cause for concern which in turn made this all so much worse. I kept thinking it was being misdiagnosed. Ive never heard of LPR before this.

    I finally went to see my Ear Nose and throat doctor and he ran a scope through my nose into my throat and said I had CLASSIC symptoms of silent reflux/Laryngopharyngeal Reflux. He said the lump I was feeling in my throat was my flesh. I had aggrivated my throat so much by clearing and coughing etc, that it was very swollen and in a bad state. I was told to STOP clearing, and instead drink water when I feel the need to clear my throat. I told him I get the sensation of choking and am forced to cough...He prescribed 300mg of zantac before bedtime.

    I felt much better after this visit. But, again had to call the gastro. He changed the meds from Acophex to Nexium which seemed a slight better.

    And now?

    I am taking Nexium twice per day, Zantac 300mg before bed, sleeping on a special pillow (which I HATE!) and also drinking (even slugging down) Gaviscon as needed during the day.

    So even with ALL this, I still have trouble. This has been since May of this year.

    Agh, Sorry to for this first time HUGE post but was hoping someone else that reads this might feel a bit at ease knowing others are going through the same thing.

     
    Old 09-28-2007, 05:49 PM   #8
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    ok I nhave a few questions...

    what is Aciphex, H-pylori, and LPR?

    Also I am the topic creator so do you think there is a chance tat I was mis diagnoised and it could be somethin other than acid reflux disease....or do I really have it?

    Can someone describe how you feel you have it besides the sensation of lump in throat...cuz is it like you feel fluid coming back up into your mouth from your esphogus or somethin else? Cuz I feel that once in a while after eating and drinking but it never burns if it is acid/or the drink you drink...

    someone help i'm confused

    I'm more worried and scared about my voice sounded this horrible...when will I get my voice back? Anybody know how long before they got their's back?

    Also why did my voice come back when they put that anettheitc spray in my nose...when I saw the ENT specialist...what does that even do cuz after about 5 minutes of using that my voice was cleared and came back!! Does it numb somethin if so why did my voice sound like me again! I was so happy and thought it would stay like that finally and then it didn't my irritated voice came back with the hoarseness or whatever it is change of voice...and hard to speak sometimes.

     
    Old 09-28-2007, 06:40 PM   #9
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    Hi Kis86,

    Hope I can answer some of your questions. Aciphex is a prescription medication which is supposed to be very good for acid reflux. It is a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) and it decreases the amount of acid produced in your stomach. There are other prescription medications like this, Nexium is one(purple pill, you must have seen advertised on TV..) Zantac, Prilosex etc...

    Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is a type of bacteria. It is believed that H. pylori is responsible for the majority of peptic ulcers. It is usually found through the scope many of us have had. A biopsy is taken and sent to a lab for testing. I think it can also be found through bloodwork and a breath test, although in my case, it was through the biopsy during the scope. It is treated with heavy doses of antibiotics and double dosage of PPS's for a two week period.

    LPR is short for Laryngopharyngeal Reflux. GERD is short for Gastroesphageal Reflux (GERD)

    GERD occurs when acid from the stomach backs up into the esophagus.

    With gastroesophageal reflux, the acidic stomach contents reflux all the way up the esophagus, beyond the upper esophageal sphincter (a ring of muscle at the top of the esophagus), and into the back of the throat and possibly the back of the nasal airway. This is LPR.

    Aciphex, nexium, prilosec etcc are medications which should help. However, for many of us suffering with LPR, the medication has not helped, or not helped enough.

    Did the Ear Nose and Throat dr prescribe medication for you when he diagnozed acid reflux?

    Your symptoms sound like they are LPR. But none of us here can know that for sure, only your Dr. can.

    From all the reading I've done, it seems each of our symptoms, although very similar, are somewhat different. Here are mine: Dry hacky cough. Loss of voice, changed voice (does not sound like me), phlegm, hoarse voice. Tickle in throat which feels like a drip (but is not, and causes me to keep clearing my throat) A lumpy feeling (not always), pain in my ear (not always) choking sensation (causing me to cough) breastbone pain (not always) chest pressure (not always). All the acid going into our throat, the constant coughing and throat clearing aggreviates the vocal chords and so we have these problems with the voice etc.

    I just REALLY wish there were a GOOD medication for this.

    Hope this helps.

     
    Old 09-28-2007, 09:48 PM   #10
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    Re: Having problems talking and changing of my voice...hard to sing now...etc.

    A great post, Serenity!

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    Dry hacky cough. Loss of voice, changed voice (does not sound like me), phlegm, hoarse voice. Tickle in throat which feels like a drip (but is not, and causes me to keep clearing my throat) A lumpy feeling (not always), pain in my ear (not always) choking sensation (causing me to cough) breastbone pain (not always) chest pressure (not always). All the acid going into our throat, the constant coughing and throat clearing aggreviates the vocal chords and so we have these problems with the voice etc.
    Thank you so much!
    I have all of the above listed symptoms. The dry cough, hoarse voice, tickle & lump in throat, (making me clear my throat and swallow a lot, and cough), choking sensation-sometimes I actually start choking for no reason, and the chest pressure and discomfort. Also, shortness of breath. I was diagnosed with a hiatal hernia and GERD just several weeks ago. Do you think all this is from the acid backing up? I don't even FEEL or taste the acid! I seem to have all your symptoms. What do you have? I find this all so confusing. I thought my medications were causing all these miserable symptoms. I am on Nexium for the GERD.

     
    Old 09-29-2007, 06:57 AM   #11
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    Hi Flowergirl,

    I'm glad what I wrote helped you a bit. There is a wealth of information here and is why I joined this board and have been reading it for so long. It is from real people like us having REAL symptoms which others don't understand. I think it helps to know there are others having the same issues.

    Yes, I was told that the chest pressure, the chocking and throat clearing are all due to the acid going all the way up into our throat.

    I don't taste the acid either. It just happens and many times for no apparent reason. Even when I did not eat. That is what makes me worry and I think the worrying makes the reflux worse.

    I was diagnosed with LPR. I was also told it would get better within a few weeks. It has gotten better, but it is 4 months and still I suffer with it. So discouraging to read about people who have suffered with this for years. I can't imagine it to be possible, I would go insane.

    With the 3 x's a day medication I have been loads better. I thought I could decrease at least to twice a day, so purposely missed one dosage two days in a row and wow! am I paying for it now. Yuck!

    Well good day to everyone, let's keep sharing with each other because sometimes I think most doctors don't know how awful this feels and dismiss our complaining.

     
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    Serenity,

    I haven't been told that I have the LPR, though I seem to have all the symptoms! I have to do as you suggested and start doing some research. Thanks for your tips.

    flowergirl

     
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    Hi Flowergirl,

    I'm glad what I wrote helped you a bit. There is a wealth of information here and is why I joined this board and have been reading it for so long. It is from real people like us having REAL symptoms which others don't understand. I think it helps to know there are others having the same issues.

    Yes, I was told that the chest pressure, the chocking and throat clearing are all due to the acid going all the way up into our throat.

    I don't taste the acid either. It just happens and many times for no apparent reason. Even when I did not eat. That is what makes me worry and I think the worrying makes the reflux worse.

    I was diagnosed with LPR. I was also told it would get better within a few weeks. It has gotten better, but it is 4 months and still I suffer with it. So discouraging to read about people who have suffered with this for years. I can't imagine it to be possible, I would go insane.

    With the 3 x's a day medication I have been loads better. I thought I could decrease at least to twice a day, so purposely missed one dosage two days in a row and wow! am I paying for it now. Yuck!

    Well good day to everyone, let's keep sharing with each other because sometimes I think most doctors don't know how awful this feels and dismiss our complaining.

     
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    Hi i am also suffering with LPR. during the last few weeks i have done a ton of research and found that once you start taking the PPI's you begin a cycle that is never ending. if you miss a dose the stomach rebounds by producing much more acid because it has been surpressed for such a long time. i have decided to try it naturally first. i read that there is some research on orange peel extractl. 1000mg taken ever other day. it will take some time to kick in however you can get off the prescriptions and try to go it naturally. also i read that vinegar works wonders. it is a special kind that you must use and is listed on the this forum.

    i hope it works. i will let everyone now how the orange peel works!

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    Hi i am also suffering with LPR. during the last few weeks i have done a ton of research and found that once you start taking the PPI's you begin a cycle that is never ending. if you miss a dose the stomach rebounds by producing much more acid because it has been surpressed for such a long time. i have decided to try it naturally first. i read that there is some research on orange peel extractl. 1000mg taken ever other day. it will take some time to kick in however you can get off the prescriptions and try to go it naturally. also i read that vinegar works wonders. it is a special kind that you must use and is listed on the this forum.

    i hope it works. i will let everyone now how the orange peel works!
    Hi swoobaby, I hope that's not true as I'm on tripple the medication! Yet, I somehow think you might be right because I tried to reduce the dosage last week and it was/is awful! The apple cider vinegar doesn't work for this (not for me anyway) It DID work for hearburn/GERD however.
    I'll look into the orangle peel extract. Thanks!

     
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