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    Old 02-23-2004, 04:10 PM   #16
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

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    I decided to let my 13 year old son get accutane after a number of treatments didnt work for him. He had moderate acne on his face and severe cystic acne on his back.
    It's obvious that your doctor isn't just throwing Accutane at your son on a whim. They have tried other treatments, and he still has cystic acne. Please don't let a few doomsayers scare you...you obviously have done your research and are aware of what you are doing.

    GirlienNC, it's apparent from your post that you are taking the drug seriously, and are paying very close attention to your child. I am sure it's a frustrating ordeal for you and your child, and I applaud you for handling it the way you are. Keep up your caring nature, and I wish the best of luck to your son on Accutane. Hopefully this ends up being the treatment he needs to ease the cystic acne.

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    Old 02-23-2004, 04:11 PM   #17
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

    There is very little we do in life that doesn't have "potential" side effects. Personally, I would rather have some physical problems due to a drug than the psychological problems that come from this disease.

    I think the argument of "how do you know you don't have any brain damage from accutane" is weak. In the same line of reasoning one could ask, "how do you know that using a cell phone everyday isn't causing you brain damage." I think we are all being a little bit paranoid.

    As far as it stunting growth... Like I said, I took accutane when I was very young and I'm now 6'3 and taller than my father and my brother who never took accutane.

    Everyone has the right to decide whether or not accutane is right for them. Personally, I am glad that I received my parents' consent to take accutane when I was 14. I think it saved me from a ton of psychological trauma and in the long run, I personally feel that is more important than anything.

    I'm not downplaying others opinions or research. We all must make our own decisions and live with the "potential" side effects.

    As far as diet controlling acne is concerned... I think if you are predisposed to it and it is genetically woven into your DNA, no diet in the world is going to cure you. No dermatologist I've ever had (and I've had more than a few) has ever said that diet affects acne. I know that there are some of you who swear by the fact that it does, but I don't personally believe it.

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    Old 02-23-2004, 04:15 PM   #18
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

    Well put slick33. Unfortunately accutane, like ANY type of prescribed drugs, will have a bad rap on this forum (since some have used it and it did not prevent future acne for them, hence why they are still here). But, ask about Accutane on any OTHER type of forum, and the success rate is much higher than you will ever be told here.

    As far as the paranoia, there is a lot of that on these forums. But like you said, everything we do in life is a risk. Every type of drug, whether it be to cure depression, or even to cure acne, can have side effects. Choose your battles.

    Speaking of battles, expect to get nasty flamed by the diet fanatics. Don't worry, there is usually no content in the posts, but fanatacism none the less Since diet is admittedly not the only CAUSE of acne (even the fanatics will admit to that), then diet surely isn't the only CURE for acne.

    But, let's not digress. This should stay on topic of a women and her son.

    Kev

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    Old 02-23-2004, 04:15 PM   #19
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

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    LOL. If I didn't know more than my doctors I would still have acne and other problems.

    But if it makes you feel any better, a lot of PhD's and medical doctors agree with me.

    Accutane works by causing problems. It works by damaging the oil glands and interfering with the body's normal metabolization of fats. I meant it when I said it creates a whole new host of internal problems..not probable or possible or potential problems...just problems. That's how it works.

    I don't care if someone's sisters friend's cousin has no problems that they relate to their accutane. Likewise, I don't care (I do care it just doesn't make a difference here) if someone's sister's friends cousin had their hair fall out from accutane. It doesn't make a difference in how the chemical works inside the body and what it does. Everyone has a quality of life and a level of health that they aim for or that they tolerate. I don't think anyone who is not an adult should take this drug. It is just too risky. The reason depression is one of the possible side effects of accutane is because of its effects on the brain.

    But the point is..Accutane works by causing problems. It works via its destructive effects on oil glands and oil metabolization. People being (apparently) asymptomatic of internal damage doesn't change that.
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    Accutane works by causing problems. It works by damaging the oil glands and interfering with the body's normal metabolization of fats. I meant it when I said it creates a whole new host of internal problems..not probable or possible or potential problems.....
    just problems. That's how it works...Accutane works by causing problems. It works via its destructive effects on oil glands and oil metabolization. People being (apparently) asymptomatic of internal damage doesn't change that.
    I guess thats one way to look at it... Though I have to wonder if for some, thier body does not properly -naturally metaboloze fats - (not due to diet/food intolerances) BUT - due to a genetic defect or problem - causing acne - and that is why Accutane is the only truly effective treatment for certain cases of persistent acne which truly does not respond to any other medical, topical, or dietary treatment? Just a thought...
    Personally, as far as I am concerned, damaging already overactive oil glands that are causing persistent acne is not a problem (for me, I see it as a solution!)

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    Genn, Prometheus and others on these boards have had more answers to my problems, questions, or concerns than ANY doctor I have ever visited. They can explain to me more about diet, the effects of medicines, and the symptoms of diseases better than any dermatologist I have seen before, and even better than my general doctor (who is a very good doctor that really tries to help and relate to her patients). Not only can they answer these questions, but they can also RELATE to my problem, SHARE their experiences, and PROVIDE not only research to back up their comments but also suggestions that they know (from personal experience) that have helped them and could help me. Plus, the advice, suggestions, and information is FREE Unfortunatly not every doctor is highly informed on every subject (most just keep on referring you to different doctors), and most see you for 5 minutes, write you a prescription, and send you on your way with a pat on the back and a "if this doesnt work..see me in 3 months and I'll give you some more pills to try". Sorry I'm going off so much, but I have had VERY bad experiences with doctors and getting true, honest, and beneficial advice is something none of them provided me with. .
    I am glad to hear that you have gotten helpful advice from others on this board. Different things work for different people, for different reasons... I see a trend here, that whenever anyone asks a question about any treatment, they receive an onslaught from the “nutrition camp”… While the whole nutrition – dietary – food intolerance theory may work wonders for some, it does not help everyone. I think it is unfair assault and to chastise those who are trying a treatment that differs from that theory…

    I can also understand, with experiences like yours, why you would be frustrated with the medical community! Luckily, I personally, have never had that experience... I have also been very fortunate to have several medical professionals as friends and family, so I have never had any difficulty getting honest, beneficial advice... I do agree with what someone else said too - it is always a good idea to have a couple of opinions before taking medical advice.

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    Besides...don't they make you sign some paper before taking accutane? (think I have heard that they do) That right there warns you of the dangers of this drug..
    The paper you are thinking of is actually just a "pregnancy warning." Accutane is tetragenous ( like many other drugs and herbs) and should abslolutley be avoided by pregnant women. It just states that you are aware, and I will take preventative measures to avoid becoming pregnant while on accutane, and use birth control.[/QUOTE]


    The thing is, I am sure that GirlienNc seriously weighed the options, did the reasearch, and looked in to all of the possible options for treating her sons acne, as any good parent would! She came on here asking for specific advice about her son's dosage. Instead of anyone answering the question she asked, everyone comes in slamming her with "accutane horror stories." (most of which I am sure she has heard before) As a parent, myself, I know that is the last thing she needs to hear right now! Not only is she a concerned parent with her own natural worries, but she also wants to do the best she can to help her son get through his teenage years without the added burden of acne!
    Yes, accutane should not be taken lightly, but statistics show that when taken properly, and closelyt monitored, it is safe, even for someone as young as 13.
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    Accutane can close up the growth plates. I've talked to someone who had their child on accutane and he hasn't grown since. I wouldn't suggest accutane to anyone under 17 years. Did your doc talk about this with you?
    I have never heard, or read anything about that anywhere before, and I did extensive research on accutane before choosing to take it. (Personally, I stopped growing around that age, and I was not taking accutane or any drug)

    I see a real benefit to taking it young. That way, the teen can avoid winding up with scars, and avoid having the already tumultuous teenage years sabotaged by being tormented by your peers, and though many assume that acne is always "grown out of" that, unfortunately, for many, is simply not true!

    GirlienNc: Hang in there! I hope that you can get the dosage questions answered, and that your son’s treatment is successful. I think it is really great that you are so concerned, and trying so hard to help your son with this. Personally, I can remember what it was like to be that age, and not wanting to go to school, or take part in things because of the acne… The teenage years are hard enough to begin with, without adding acne to the mix!

     
    Old 02-23-2004, 04:20 PM   #20
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

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    Accutane works by causing problems. It works by damaging the oil glands and interfering with the body's normal metabolization of fats. I meant it when I said it creates a whole new host of internal problems..not probable or possible or potential problems...just problems. That's how it works.
    I agree that it may cause problems while one is taking it. I definitely do not agree that these problems persist (in every case) permanently after one is done with the course.

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    Old 02-23-2004, 05:00 PM   #21
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

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    I agree that it may cause problems while one is taking it. I definitely do not agree that these problems persist (in every case) permanently after one is done with the course.
    Why not? It might persistently and permanently keep your skin clear... which means it's possible there are other changes in your body that also are staying the same since the drug.

     
    Old 02-23-2004, 11:10 PM   #22
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    Re: My 13 year old on accutane(LONG POST)

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    Why not? It might persistently and permanently keep your skin clear... which means it's possible there are other changes in your body that also are staying the same since the drug.
    That's just it... accutane doesn't always cure acne permanently. That's why I went on it 3 times. I still have acne to this day. In most cases, it only gives you a reprieve from the acne for 6 months to a year after each course.

     
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