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    Old 08-19-2004, 12:30 PM   #1
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    Exclamation keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    I have read some people's post here, and I have come to a conclusion that some people are actually not suffering from acne. In fact, I believe there are some people suffering from keratosis Pilaris. keratosis Pilaris and Acne are not the same thing. I repeat! they are not the same thing. They appear to look the same, but completely two different things. Unfortunately, just like acne, keratosis Pilaris is genetic and untreatable. Accutane will not cure keratosis Pilaris. It will only make matters worse due to over-drying of the skin. Infact, a lot of acne products will not work for keratosis Pilaris; they will most definately make matters worse! If possible, it is best that you see a dermatopathologist instead of a dermatologist. He or she will be more experienced to understand your situation. You have been warned!! For more information visit [ removed ]

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    Old 08-19-2004, 07:58 PM   #2
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    Re: keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    Thanks for the warning, I guess; but I looked up some information, and this doesn't describe most of us:
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    The info I cited above is a bit different than that found on [url]www.[[/url] removed ] however, my info came from a group of physicians, while the Web site was written by a "sufferer" without medical training.
    I'm confused about the advice to see a dermatopathologist: That type of subspecialist is an expert at diagnosing esoteric skin problems, but is usually asked to do so by the patient's dermatologist. The dermatopathologist works in the lab to diagnose the problem; the dermatologist works with the patient to solve it.
    Still, I'm intrigued - why did we need to be "warned"?

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    Old 08-19-2004, 10:12 PM   #3
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    Re: keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    Sorry - I've just reviewed the posting guidelines, and I understand the moderator's objection.
    To rephrase in my own words, I have learned that keratosis pilaris appears as clusters of small bumps that can be scratched off to reveal a ball of dryish, white material. (Those of us with pimples can see the difference.) It is found almost exclusively on the arms, legs and buttocks, afflicts children and young adults, and almost always disappears by age 30. It may be genetic, but that hasn't been proven; it's fairly common, so dermatologists don't have a tough time diagnosing it.

     
    Old 08-19-2004, 11:30 PM   #4
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    Sorry - I've just reviewed the posting guidelines, and I understand the moderator's objection.
    To rephrase in my own words, I have learned that keratosis pilaris appears as clusters of small bumps that can be scratched off to reveal a ball of dryish, white material. (Those of us with pimples can see the difference.) It is found almost exclusively on the arms, legs and buttocks, afflicts children and young adults, and almost always disappears by age 30. It may be genetic, but that hasn't been proven; it's fairly common, so dermatologists don't have a tough time diagnosing it.
    You'll be surprised how many derms will misdiagnose keratosis pilaris for acne especially in a situation that involves a combination of both acne and keratosis. In actual fact, your acne may only be severe or obvious because you have a minor to severe case of keratosis pilaris or likewise. BTW keratosis pilaris can also appear on the face as very tiny unnoticeable group of bumps. Once irritated or picked, these bumps can grow and look just like acne. Note: While acne may result from oily skin, keratosis pilaris is caused as a result of dry flaky skin and/ or vitamin A deficiency (there are other causes). If you have a combination of both acne and keratosis pilaris, you have to be careful about what you are prescribed. Although, the results are slow, the most prescribed medication is Retin A since Retin A works for both for acne and keratosis pilaris. If you treat just one problem, you may be elevating the other. As I have said, you have been warned. Over 50% of everyone have keratosis pilaris. Therefore, if you suffer from acne, there is a good chance you also have keratosis pilaris. I recommend that you should always recieve a written diagnosis of your problem from your derm and the confirm it with another one. IMHO

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    Old 08-20-2004, 08:24 AM   #5
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    Re: keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    hi everyone, i have keratosis pilaris and i have to dissagree with you on your post because keratosis pilaris doesnt look like acne. you could have kp any where on your body or face, i have it on the back of my arms and top of my legs which are the most common places to get it. if you have it on your face you will know because it is also red, the bumps are very small unlike most acne. also derms dont really have a hard time diagnosing kp because its very common, you are correct over 50% of the population is affected by this. acne medication actually helps kp such as salisylic acid(sp) and glycolic acid because you want to shed the skin and clear the pores. i agree kp and acne are not the same thing and accutane will probably not help although kp is a vitamin-a deficiency. if you have kp you want to moisturize not dry out the skin. you said if you pick the kp it can grow and look like acne and i have never had that experience, kp is part of your skin if you pick the bumps they will bleed just like if you pick at your normal skin. if some people have those little bumps on their forehead thats not kp because it doesnt form on your forehead but it can near your eyebrows. believe me if you have kp on your body or face you or your derm will know its not acne. spiro9210, i think you are really concerned that people are mistaking their acne, but we dont need to be warned! because acne and kp are nothing alike and your derm will know what it is thats what their there for.

     
    Old 08-20-2004, 09:35 AM   #6
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    your derm will know what it is thats what their there for.
    Oh! Yeah! Why don't you tell that to my three previous Mediocre derms. My back acne has gone down because my new derm (well he is actually a dermatopathologist) rediagnose my case as mostly a very severe case of Keratosis Pilaris mixed with acne and treated it as such. He also enphasized on making sure that I use alot of moisturizers on my skin even though I had a really oily skin. Guess what he ordered! Vaseline! Vaseline?! Retin A at Night and good old Vaseline in the morning right after I shower. The bottom line is this: Don't trust your derms right away. Ask for a written Diagnosis and do your own research before buying the prescription. It will save you money, and it will save your skin. I have bought all kind of precription in the past from Topical and Oral Antibiotics to prescription peroxide creams. My dermatopathologist took alot of time to really touch and look at my skin to tell me what my problem was. He went far enough and requested that he checked other parts of my skin where I had no acne (No! not there! I know what you thinking), I initially had no clue for his reason. Lord behold! behind the top of my thigh were little cases of Keratosis Pilaris. BTW I am ethnic with dark skin, and I donot share symptoms such as red skin. There is no where on my body that my skin can blush or appear red. Your case might be different, it might be something else different from Keratosis, but there is a lesson learned here. Why? I have scars that will never go away.

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    Old 08-21-2004, 08:54 AM   #7
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    Re: keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    hey spiro9210, i'm sorry to hear about your previous experiences with your doctors. i guess i was to general when i stated that "thats what their there for", i said this because keratosis is so common and is so obvious and unsightly looking that i could spot someone with kp from a mile away. i do believe doctors can mess up after all they are human ya know, but im glad you found a good doctor that will listen. vaseline is good for the skin my friends mother has the most beautiful skin and i asked her what she uses and she said just vaseline(of course you wouldnt put this on your face if you where really prone to acne). that was a good idea that he checked other parts of the body, have you ever noticed the little patchs on your thigh? (i know its the back of your thigh so its harder to see...lol) well if you have dark skin thats probably why you don't have redness or blush but lighter skinned people like myself get that as a symptom, my skin isn't even that light, i didnt mention before but i also have kp rubra faceii which is another form of kp on the face, there are many different forms of keratosis that can appear on the face. and your skin is not red on the body i meant the face that is red and can blush. i know for a fact i have kp(its easy to see with my lighter skin) yours just might be harder to tell because of your darker skin, therefore people with lighter skin can probably see the difference between acne and kp. im sorry to hear about your scars. do you have kp on your arms?

     
    Old 10-29-2004, 05:59 PM   #8
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    Re: keratosis Pilaris-Be warned!!

    keratosis doesn't always look the same on everyone. Some people only get a reddish skin tone on the area, while others get the bumps that look like acne. I learned this from my doctor who suffers from it. More than 50 percent of the female population suffers from it. One of the best treatments for it is Am-Lactin, Lac-Hydrin, or Eucerin. Do not scrub or try to pop them. Mine is totally clear now. However, it doesn't have a cure the treatment needs to be constant. I also found that using unscented deodorant helped to improve the condition.

     
    Old 10-30-2004, 08:52 AM   #9
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    hey izumi, how did you get yours clear exactly?

     
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