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    Old 02-08-2005, 08:28 AM   #1
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    Cool I cured my female adult acne!!!!

    Just wanted to let you all know what I did to clear up my skin and help get rid of minor scarring. I've accomplished so much in the past year.

    After countless attempts at different creams and antibiotics to clear up my adult acne in the last 3-4 years I finally decided to seek help the holistic way. I decided it was best to see if I could help my body from the inside out clear itself up. Sure, it was expensive and it's not covered by medical insurance, but you'd all likely agree it's worth it. Dermatologists were not helping me, that's for sure. I saw a specialist in Contact Reflex Analysis (CRA) in Boston that determined where my internal weaknesses were. This may be best for acne sufferers who believe their acne is hormone based. When I went on the birth control pill it did clear up my skin, but because of negative side-effects, namely migraines, I had to stop. This may sound like hocus pocus to some of you the way she told me to hold up my arms up and then if she could push it down easily as she touched parts of my body, that determined I had a weakness inside me in that area of my body and she gave me herbal and dietary supplements that would restore my body on the inside. I had my doubts at first too, but hey, it worked!

    Sure enough, after starting to take dozens of pills a day and after about two months I started seeing a difference. The reason you have to take so many pills (it will differ for each person depending on your imbalance) is that you take the same pills two or three times a day because they don't stay in your system as long as the synthetic prescription pills are made to. These are all natural. To keep them in your system you have to take them more often. It's been one year now and people would never know I had dealt with such a problem for about three years, trying everything I could. The tumor-like pimples that gnaw under your skin hurt the worst and take the longest to clear up. I had so many of those and now I hardly ever get them and generally only get a pimple here or there, usually around the time I get my period.

    I still take one type of herbal pill twice a day without food to keep my system in-balance. I also put a little prescription Retin-A micro gel on occasional pimples or to prevent them when I know I'm getting my period. I did break out again for about a month in December (1 1/2 mths ago), but I attribute that to stress because I have gone back to college and that was when I had final exams. So I was under a lot of stress. I have gotten my skin back under control, thankfully. But I plan to see the CRA lady when I visit Boston this month for a kind of check up on my system. I think stress and antibiotics do a number on my system and thus my skin. I must add that even though I started with taking dozens (about 42 pills/day) I would see her about every two months and she'd lower the amount of pills I had to take as my system got better. As well, I personally was also on so many pills to balance my internal yeast problem, so that added to the number of pills. Once I was treating just the skin problem I was taking about 18 pills/day. Mind you, it was more or less the same 6 pills three times a day.

    As far as clearing up old scars I would suggest TCA C.R.O.S.S. I've seen some of you talking about just the TCA peel, but this CROSS process I find is better for individual hole-like scars (boxcar scars). Instead of treating the whole face, only the individual scars are filled with TCA and at a much higher percentage, sometimes done at 100% TCA. 100% can be used because you're only treating individual spots, not the entire face that can't handle such high amounts and may be damaged. With TCA CROSS there's less chance of damage and much less down time. You look a little weird for about a week. Scabbing on the affected spots occurs and it looks a little like chicken pox (but I've never had chicken pox either, lol). I've seen great results from getting about 3 treatments of that. It costs a lot less than regular TCA too, because it only takes like 10 min in the doctorís office to do and doesn't use much TCA. I spent $100/treatment with a Dr. Pelle in Boston (Dermatologist). In San Diego I spent $200/treatment. I will have to get a couple again since I broke out a bit last December. In the meantime I also have found some success with a skin bleaching cream called EpiQuin Micro (hydroquinone USP 4%). There are other types, but I like this one because it absorbs well. It's not covered by health insurance and costs about $93/tube. You use it morning and night on the red spots and it makes them blend in with your skin over time.

    I've used professional microdermabrasion, glycolic acid peels and all kinds of antibiotics (creams and pills) that were prescribed to me, but they were not good at getting rid of the zits or the scarring. I had good results with them at first, but then my body became resistant to the antibiotics and my skin seemed to get worse as a result. Plus, it's very bad for you to be on antibiotics for long periods of time. In the case of acne, antibiotic use is indefinite and thatís never a good thing. The CRA is a way of helping your body fix itself, not just clear up the symptoms. Acne is a result of imbalance in your body.

    I would also like to add that I saw an endocrinologist that determined my hormone levels were normal. The holistic lady agreed, but said different parts of my body were working harder than others to produce the hormones and I needed to restore function to those areas that were not working right so that other parts that were working too hard could share less of the work load. Make sense? That's basically the gist of part of what she said. My skin over the years had slowly gotten worse and worse since graduating from college and the herbalist said that was a sign my body was weakening. Everything's connected in your body. As one system weakens it affects others creating a cascade/domino effect and over time your body gets worse and worse until you start reversing the cycle and fix it going backwards. Think of taking layer upon layer of blankets and then sheets off your bed until you get to the bottom sheet you originally started with. She fixed each layer starting with the top layer first and worked backwards. I know this can work because I am living proof it can. I really want to be of help to those of you suffering with acne. Try researching Contact Reflex Analysis online first. I've read chiropractors usually are the one who offer this service, but that's not who did it on me. Good luck!!

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    Old 02-08-2005, 08:58 AM   #2
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    Re: I cured my female adult acne!!!!

    at what age did you start getting acne and how bad was it? How long were you on antibiotics for? Did you ever take accutane? Do you only get acne on your face and if so is there a particular spot where it is more concentrated? What kind of antibiotics did you use? How did you clear your internal yeast problem, because I think I might have one (I used antibiotics for a long time)

    Thanks!!!

     
    Old 02-08-2005, 09:25 AM   #3
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    Those are very good questions, thanks for asking. I never had bad acne as a teenager like my siblings and other students did. I used some lotion occassionally growing up, but nothing much. Over the years, especially when I got out of college I started noticing I was breaking out more and more, and not just when I got my period. It was horrible timing because for those two years right after college I didn't have health insurance either. I thought once I had it I could see a dermatologist and s/he could fix everything. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. When I got health insurance I tried various things like Differin and other ointments then went to using antibiotics (different ones I can't remember). I think it was Tetracycline that helped me a lot, but I got terrible migraines from using it so had to stop. That's a known side-effect for some women using it. My skin seemed to rebel against these antibiotics and would get worse after initially getting better.

    I never got acne on my body, just my face, mainly my cheeks and in particular my left cheek, weird. When I started getting the tumor-like pimples that grow under the skin and last for weeks and hurt really bad, I decided something was going wrong with me internally. I was afraid for my general health and wanted to help my body get better. I took acne to be a sign of ill health since I was an adult with it. That's why I went with the approach of trying to see where the health problem stemmed from, not just preventing the symptoms (i.e zits).

    Ever since I was a teen I've been getting yeast infections as well. Over the years as my acne got worst so too did the frequency of my yeast infections. I would suggest if you take antibiotics to take acidophilus probiotic pills every day for a month to balance your system out again (get it in the drug store). The herbalist put me on a strict diet of no yeast, sugar and other restrictions for a month, plus I had to take lots of pills, in order to clear all the yeast out of my entire body. She said it cleared up my system of yeast problems, but I occassionally still have some problems, but less frequently. I think that's the case though because everytime you take antibiotics again you're screwing up your system a little. I'm on antibiotics now for two ear infections and so am taking acidophilus twice a day to counterbalance the effect, and will continue to take it after I'm done with the antibiotics. What happens is that antibiotics kill normal flora in your body that are good for you, causing your pH to go out of balance and yeast infections are allowed to grow. They can occur in your mouth, body, or private parts. I hope that helps and answers your questions.

     
    Old 02-08-2005, 09:43 AM   #4
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    Opps, I forgot to add one thing. You asked me if I've ever taken accutane. The answer is no. My dermatologist gave me literature on it and it sounded scarry and with great possible health risks. He said this was the last resort he had to offer me. That's when I started researching on my own. I even tried Proactiv. I still use just the wash occassionally because I have some left-over bottles and it's a nice scrub that's not harsh on my skin. I would say it did nothing for preventing break-outs. The Proactiv lotion with benzoyle peroxide is too strong. I seem to have sensitive skin that easily dries out, peels and gets red. All those salycylic acid washes are too strong for my face too.

    In my holistic approach I initially decided to get a colonic and tried that. I wanted to get rid of the years of impurities and toxins that I thought had built up in my system and were causing my skin problems to worsen too. After I got my initial colonic at the holistic spa the lady who worked there recommened Contact Reflex Analysis instead. She looked at my face and said she could help me. That's how I found my cure!!

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    Old 02-08-2005, 10:52 AM   #5
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    Yeah, I did a search on CRA as you suggested & found this on Quack-Watch: [url]http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/cra.html[/url] I think you got ripped off - our improvement was probably mostly due to improved diet & less stress.

     
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    Re: I cured my female adult acne!!!!

    I cured my female adult acne with topicals and a better skin care regimine.

     
    Old 02-08-2005, 11:15 AM   #7
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    I saw that posting online too about CRA. That just means you didn't look that much into it because that's only one listing and one person's opinion. Is that how you do research? The first person's opinion you agree with? If I'm telling you I had developed acne and was very bad for 3 years and nothing in traditional medicine helped and then I tried this and within five months my skin had drastically improved, you are still going to agree with some online opinion over my personal experience? That's not very open-minded or logical.

    Sure, I thought it was due to better diet too because for the first month with the herbalist I was on a strict diet to improve my yeast problems. But then after that month I was allowed to eat whatever I wanted to, as long as I took the herbal pills. Maybe it does have to do with my diet. It may be that something in the herbal pills counterbalances what I'd been missing from my regular eating habits because the pills do have animal as well as plant ingrediants in them. But the herbalist found what I was lacking and cured me. I was never able to do that on my own or with any other professional.

    I no longer take the huge amounts of pills she originally put me on and now only take two pills a day. And I'm not on any special diet for my skin. I have tried to cut down on the amount of chocolate I eat because I have noticed that can make me get more than the normal amount of pimples if I eat too much pure chocolate. But before when I had bad acne and I tried cutting down on chocolate and sugar, it made no major difference to my general acne condition. I even tried taking lots of extra zinc, but that just made me naucious with an upset stomach. I even tried spironolactone like I've read some of you have tried. I didn't notice it was doing anything. But I stopped taking it before much time because I had started with the herbalist and wanted to make sure I knew what was causing me to get better.

    I started Contact Reflex Analysis Dec. 2003 and after about five months I was hardly getting any pimples. The cystic acne was gone, if I remember correctly. It's been a year and I have to give credit where credit is due, to Contact Reflex Analysis. I wouldn't have believed it either unless I tried and it and it worked. As they say, the proof is in the pudding!! Cheers!

     
    Old 02-08-2005, 11:28 AM   #8
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    And regarding stress. Yeah, I think stress can definitely impact the skin. Like I said when I was under stress I broke out very badly. I did associate stress with my bad skin in my mid-20s and when I quit my very stressful TV News job I thought my skin would improve, but it didn't. It got worse. I think your body gets in bad habits and so even if one thing triggered your bad skin problems, just because you stop that bad habit (whether stress or diet) doesn't mean your body will stop it's bad habit. You need to re-train the body. This takes time. Like I'd said one problem in the body can lead to another, causing a downward spiral. Like if you hurt your ankle and start favoring the other leg more, that leg can eventually get injured from too much over use. It's about putting your body back in balance so no organs or glands, etc are being over taxed which can lead to further injury. My stress levels go up and down all the time, but I can maintain my good skin most of the time regardless. Except during my period, I still get a couple pimples that last a few days, but not weeks and they're not cystic and tortuous.

     
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    I didn't mean to offend you, I'm glad it worked for you. I agree that the body being out of balance leads to lots of problems. I think these people are taking that kernel of truth and using it as a way to make money. Yes that article was as far as I read - yes because I agreed with it - this stuff sounded hokey to me in the first place. All the other things the search found were people trying to sell this treatment so how objective are they?

     
    Old 02-08-2005, 05:58 PM   #10
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    Don't worry, I'm not offended. I know what it did for me, and you can believe it or not. You can try all the OTC and prescriptive medications and see where it gets you. I did all that and it gave me worse acne and a red, irritated, peeling face. This herbalist cost me money sure, just like the medical doctors do, but unlike MDs I don't have to continually buy meds from her indefinitely. I spent about $1K in one year and now only use one type of pill 2X a day. I pay about $40 every two months for the pills that I know are working. The doctors just keep giving you different stuff until they wear off and then put you on something new and you pretty much know it's not going to be a cure. I'd rather take herbal pills that I know are helping and not hurting me than antibiotics or topical solutions that don't really prevent break outs and/or are bad for your body in the long run. They're full of chemicals that get absorbed into your body and who knows what they'll do to you. They likely put your body more out of balance, that's why people's acne tends to get worse after taking so many antibiotics.

    All I'm saying is that Contact Reflex Analysis worked for me. You can try everything else and then if nothing else works, I'd suggest you try this. But I'd rather you try this first if you have very severe adult acne, like I did, because I would like to save people from scarring as much as possible, and the sooner you do this the closer you are to clear skin. I don't work for any of the businesses, I'm just a client. I waited ONE YEAR and TWO MONTHS before posting my experiences to make sure that this was what helped me and that it was long-lasting. So far so good. I hope some of you take me seriously and and really take a true look at Contact Reflex Analysis because it honestly worked for me. I don't take prescriptive medications on a regular basis. I only use Retin-A micro 1-2 times a week to clear up small pimples or to prevent possible pimples on one cheek that tends to get occassional pimples. Considering how my face used to look and feel, this was my cure!!

     
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    Good post...what kind of herbal supplements did he/she give you?

     
    Old 02-09-2005, 06:59 AM   #12
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    The pills I was given are specific to what imbalances I have. That's why this type of treatment I think worked so well because it was suited to my particular needs, and then she worked with me seeing what was and wasn't working well for me and made changes accordingly. I'm down to just one type of pill and it's called (funny name) Cat's Claw Complex. It's an herbal supplement made by MediHerb and distributed by Standard Process. I think all the supplements she gave me were from that name brand. Cat's Claw I think is a type of plant because in the ingredients it says the pills are from the bark of Cat's Claw and the bark of Pau d'Arco and it has Echinacea root in it. I'd suggest looking up those names online and see what you find.

     
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    Hi Oceanus,

    I was wondering how long you were on antibiotics for? and if you have scars from previuos cysts and how bad the scars are?

     
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    Ok, I'll answer one question at a time. First regarding how long I was on antibiotics for my skin for. (I am on antibiotics now, but that's for something entirelly different). I took at least two different kinds of antibiotics for my skin. I think the first one helped for a month or so, but then stopped. I can't remember the name. Then I was put on Tetracycline I think which as I said before helped my skin instantly, but it gave me a migraine headache as well instantly. The doctor tried lowering my dose, but it didn't help. Everytime I took it I got a headache soon after. My doc said it's one of the normal side-effects women sometimes get who take it. After that he said the next thing to do was Accutane. I was probably on antibiotics for 3-4 months. I can't really remember too well. It was last winter.

    I do have some scars, mainly on my left cheek. I scar easily now because I'm an adult, I guess. I did various things that helped my skin recover, including TCA CROSS which I think helped with the ice pick scars the best. I tried glycolic peels and microdermabrasion which I didn't see any results from in terms of improving scarring or preventing break-outs. But when I did those procedures I was still breaking out all the time so it was hard to tell if they were helping with the scarring.

    My skin was looking great up until last December when I broke out real badly, as I explained earlier. I think it was due to stress in school and I had been eating way too much chocolate (left over Halloween candy) like every day for a week or two, ugh. It was too much for my body. I wasn't taking my herbal pills regularly either.

    I tend to break out the worst on my left cheek. So the scarring is pretty localized to that area from last December and in general. I do also tend to squeeze my pimples too if there's a whitehead because they hurt so much and it's a relief to get the pus out, yuk. So that attributes to more scarring. I might get TCA CROSS done again. Right now I'm back to using hydroquinone 4% ointment by EpiQuin micro 2x/day that I think is already helping to lesson the red spots.

    I did have pretty noticeable scarring, but it just takes time to heal itself. That's why I suggest the hydroquinone 4% for red spots and TCA CROSS for ice picks scars. I hate to wear cover-up and generally don't, even though people do see my scars and I do notice that they stare sometimes. But the scars are already clearing some from my short break-out last December. I can tell by looking and by the way other people react to me. They're not staring at my cheek anymore so that's another indicator to me that it's less noticeable.

    It's funny cuz I think the cysts caused less scarring physically than the whiteheads. They just took the longest to go away (2-3 wks) and were the most painful. I rarely get cysts anymore, thankfully.

    I hope that thoroughly answers your questions.

     
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    Can you list all the other Mediherb supplements you took and how many times a day? Also how many times a day are you currently taking the Cat's Claw Complex? Thanks!

    Do you REALLY want to know ALL the MediHerb supplements I was taking? There were SO many and they were particular to my imbalance so will probably do you no good. Plus, I really think you should be under the supervision of an herbal specialist (Contact Reflex Analysis expert). BTW, Contact Reflex Analysis is a type of kinesiology if anyone is more familiar with that term. I take two Cat's Claw Complex pills in the morning at least 15 min before eating and then the same routine at night. I'd suggest looking up holistic clinics in your area and/or chiropractors, because I've read they're the ones who usually provide the service of CRA.

    What I was taking was so complex that my herbalist had to write out a schedule of what to take when and with or without food. These are some of the names of the things I was on: Min-Tran (took 3x/day), Zymex, Symplex F, Andrographis, Ligaplex II, Cat's Claw Complex (Cat's Claw: which is listed as being good for suppressed immunity, HIV, multiple fungal and parasitic infections, tonsillitis, skin breakdown and candida). I was on other things as well, but I moved to a new state a few months ago and didn't carry all the notes I guess with me. These were what I was on near the end of the treatment. This is all I found when looking through my files right now. I hope that helps. I haven't looked on the MediHerb or Standard Process web site, but maybe they list these supplements??

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