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    Old 04-09-2001, 02:46 PM   #1
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    Getting Tired of the Fight

    I'm new to this message board, and have really enjoyed the good information posted here. The reason I am writing is that I am 39 years old, and, as the subject infers, getting a little tired of battling acne (which I have been doing for 25 years) and would like advice as to what I may or may not be doing right. I'm not sure how everyone defines moderate to severe acne, but mine has generally been what I would call moderate most of this time. I usually get severe cysts, but not a lot of them. I get so emotionally down about this that I am almost willing to try anything. I have been on 3 terms of accutane and did well with all of them, but of course the acne eventually comes back. Up until about 8 months ago, my dermatoligist had me on a small dose of accutane along with Retin-A, Cleocin T and washing my face with Pan Oxyl. My recent blood tests showed that the accutane was elevating my cholosterol, so the doctor took me off of that and put me on Minocylin (with the same topical treatment). This worked for about 3 months and then my acne seems to be slowly getting worse again. 2 weeks ago, I was about at the end of my rope (I had been out of town to a business meeting and my acne flared up so bad that I could barely look at people at the meeting) that I decided to search the web for any answer when I stumbled across the Vitamin B-5 cure. I immediately purchased what I could at GNC and started taking 5 grams a day. I have been still taking the antibiotic and washing my face with the Pan Oxyl and using the Cleocin T, but I stopped the Retin-A as my face was getting so red and dryed out (and I still was getting acne). For about a week, things were really looking up, but now I seem to be having a lot of little flare-ups all over my face including whiteheads and a lot of red blotches. It is nice not getting the big bumps, but all these little flare-ups, some around areas I normally don't have problems with, are a great concern. I am upping my B-5 dose to 6 grams today, but I am again starting to get extremely depressed with this (I actually broke down and cried in my car yesterday after being at a meeting where I again couldn't hardly look at anyone). The main reason I don't take more B-5 than 5-6 grams is that I have a family (wife and 3 kids), and I really don't think it fair for me to spend too much on this stuff. Anyway, sorry about the long post, but I am seeking any advice that you all might have out there. Especially with regards to my face wash and topical treatments while I am on this B-5 as I am trying to be patient with the B-5, but after 25 years, I am sorry to say that I have very little patience left. Thanks!

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    Old 04-09-2001, 03:07 PM   #2
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    I would love to trye and help, but i dont want to give bad advice, everyone has different acne <IMG SRC="">
    one thing i can say, is be gentle with your skin, dont try too many products, use a moisturizer every morning and night that doesnt clog pores. One thing that has helped me a bit, is exercise, every second day i exercise for 30-60 mins. This and vitamins (vit E, zinc) i would talk to your doctor of which types of vitamins would be best though. Just basic things like that might help, but definately not hurt. Also, dont touch your face during the day, you dont want to add bacteria. Just dont do anything that will irritate the skin, irriated skin usually means more break outs.
    Also, your said your acne got worse at a business venture? Maybe your acne is stress related. Does it get better when your on vacation? that might be consideration as well.<p>[This message has been edited by M_L (edited 04-09-2001).]

    Old 04-09-2001, 04:48 PM   #3
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    I don't know if you saw this, but if you
    don't know too much about what type of acne
    you have and what the treatments are for
    that type, this'll do you lots o' good:
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    Old 04-09-2001, 08:19 PM   #4
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    cyclone - wow I can really relate to you.. I'm 30 and have had acne for about 17 years. It seems to be a constant battle. I too have had moderate acne throughout the 17 years and have also been on accutane 3 times. I have been there with not wanting to look people in the eye for fear that I might catch them looking at my acne. It is horrible. I wish I had the magic pill for you.. I guess if I did, I would have taken it myself. I was married for 4 years but am now divorced. Honestly, I blame acne for my divorce. I know that sounds stupid, but it's true. There were times when my acne was so bad that I wouldn't even want to go to family functions. This was really hard on my ex-wife because she is so close to her family. Eventually, she got tired of me and found someone else. I can't blame her. I never really told her how much acne bothered me, so she thought I was just lazy and anti-social.

    Anyway, it sounds like you're being a little harsh on your skin. Pan Oxyl is a very drying product. I've tried it before and it caused me to break out worse. Try washing with Cetaphil without water and using only BP at night. It has been working pretty good for me. Also, the past few days I've been taking a multi-vitamin along with 50 mg of Zinc and haven't had one new pimple since.

    I hope things improve. Hang in there buddy.

    Old 04-09-2001, 08:44 PM   #5
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    Please keep up the fight! I can really relate to that lack of confidence in public.
    I'm on anti-depressant/ocd meds, really!
    I'm 36 and have been dealing with this technically for 16 years, although I can remember slathering clearasil on my face at 14 or 15, hoping it would ward it off. The decision to keep going in life has been a huge milestone for me. For many years, I really hoped I wouldn't live to see 36! That's the age my mother's sister took her own life, and being her only daughter, realized I just couldn't do that to my mom.
    I am married and have a beautiful 14 month old daughter, what an accomplishment! It is a miracle for me a sign of God's mercy and grace. I need to trust him to the end, otherwise I will miss some awesome things.

    Also, am a 3 time user of accutane. the side effects were killer, including such pain and stiffness in my joints that my doc made me stop, just about 4 weeks short of the complete program. The acne always came back, although to a lesser degree, and now in the form of congested skin , bh's and milia. The emotional and psychological ramifications are disappointing to say the least. Regarding topicals: retin a wrecks my skin, breaks down the integrity so you are more prone to irritation and infection, plus you still have the plugged pores that now if you try to do an extraction causes a major disaster. Anyway, try not to put so much pressure on yourself, people love you and need you and you are worth so much more than the condition of your skin.
    Try living a balanced life, exercise, find relaxation, get enough sleep, eat right, maybe you are sensitive to certain foods?
    Use dye and fragrance free detergents, no dryer sheets, make sure your shampoo and skin products are non comedogenic ( by individual ingredient, not by the statement on the label.) Try gentler, milder treatments, so as not to aggravate the skin.
    Keep fighting, this too shall pass.

    Old 04-09-2001, 09:11 PM   #6
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    Is it possible for Cleocin T lotion to cause earaches (sp?)? I know some antibiotisc can be ototoxic but this is a lotion! Does anyone know? My derm won't believe me when I tell him that. <IMG SRC=""> It's also giving me a really bad headache and my throat feels "weird".

    Old 04-09-2001, 09:50 PM   #7
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    girlie, im on cleocin T and oral erythromycin, and i kno i've been getting ear aches. And I'm pretty sure only oral antibiotics can do that. But i dunno. Anyway cyclone, I know what u mean with the constant battle stuff. It's a real pain in the a-s. have u tried retinoids? personally i think tazorac and differin are good. retin A didn't do jack for me jus made my skin look horrible. anyway dude good luck i hope it gets better for u and i suggest for a pickup, goto my post entitled "MY philosophy". Oh and yea my face got and still is real blotchy from B5 so i kno what ya mean with that. But i think it really helps with zits but give it time, i'm almost on my second month.<p>[This message has been edited by Toxxik (edited 04-09-2001).]

    Old 04-09-2001, 11:58 PM   #8
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    People on here always say that they can barely see my acne or spots (my pictures). However, just because I dont have a severe case, doesnt mean that the problem goes away--ever. Its just as bad to me, because where I live, it seems like almost everyone has a great complexion, and only a few have severe acne. So to be in the middle of that, its not a good feeling.

    Old 04-10-2001, 07:35 AM   #9
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    cyclone HB User
    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    Thanks for all the encouragement and advice. I'm going to try and keep up with this B-5 stuff and see how it does (I know it helps with the cystic acne as I have not had one since I have been on it). I am suppose to see my dermatologist in about 3 weeks, so I will be interested to see what he has to say about my topical treatment and about the B-5 stuff. By the way, does anyone have any comments on how their dermatologists' react to them being on B-5?

    Old 04-10-2001, 10:54 AM   #10
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    I think i have the exact same problem as you!
    i dont have active acne... its just the scars they dont go away!!, oh, DONT do tanning, trust me, I did that last year, when the tan fades, your marks will be darker and uglier than before by ALOT. Marks that would have faded in 3-4 months, are still there, just as dark as before. Its a temporary mask, but it makes it worse in the long run, im an example of that.

    Old 04-21-2001, 12:30 AM   #11
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    Re: Getting Tired of the Fight

    Cyclone, have you ever considered antidepressants to get you over the hump if you truly are depressed. If you are depressed and stressed it will only worsen your acne. Also have you ever tried accupuncture. I had some success with it in treating acne and it was the most relaxing thing I've ever felt (like you feel after a massage). I know it's not for everyone, but if you're open to it, it might help. Hang in there. I know how you feel!

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