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    Old 08-09-2001, 01:26 PM   #46
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Jessieboy4u I am hoping that this will last me 4 months which is double the time that my other bottle lasted me also with my first bottle I applied it pretty thick to my scarring which it says to do in the instructions it lasted about 8 weeks. Also jessieboy4u if you just got dermabrasion done I hope that this isnt to intense for you to use. I know that dermabrasion takes off alot of skin and the ala was very tingly when I first started using it.

     
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    Old 08-09-2001, 03:30 PM   #47
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    I e-mailed and received a response from Perricone's site. I asked about "relapses". Their response was:
    The Face Firming Activator is great to reduce the
    appearance of acne scars, the more you use the product the better results you will receive, however you will not go back to the original look if you discontinue. I hope that this information is helpful.

    I also previously asked about any data to support their claims, but got very vague answers. I did find "some" info on a study. To summarize:

    ARTICLE NAME: Topical Alpha Lipoic Acid for Anti-Aging Skin
    JOURNAL: Skin and Aging Publised in May 1998

    STUDY MEASUREMENTS
    1% study, 35 people, 5 reporting diminishment of facial scars
    3% study, 35 people, 15 reporting diminishment of scars
    3% ALA showed 70% response rate in diminishment of scars

    I am not sure if the products have improved since this study.
    MICKEYM: Did this stuff work best on "ice pick" scars for you? It looks that way from a previous post, but I would like to confirm. When I e-mailed them, I got a very general answer to a specific question. Something along the lines of The Face Firming Activator is the product that reduces the appearance of scars.

     
    Old 08-09-2001, 06:06 PM   #48
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    Justmeagain I would say that it worked equally on my ice pick and more shallow saucer scars. I dont have anymore ice pick scars I just have some of the deeper (but not as deep anymore since the ala) saucer scarring I hope this makes sense.

     
    Old 08-09-2001, 06:14 PM   #49
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    hey mickey m im really excited about trying this alpha lipoic acid stuff but i have a couple questions about getting it. i was told by dr perricones company that u have to but the lower amount of it first b4 the higher amount. umm should i just buy it and use it or turn around and buy higher dose right after? well neways i would appreciate to hear from u *mike*

     
    Old 08-10-2001, 03:47 PM   #50
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    Don't forget to watch Dr. Perricone:
    The Saturday Early Show on CBS
    Tomorrow (Aug 11)

     
    Old 08-10-2001, 09:09 PM   #51
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    usc02guy just my non medical advice I would highly suggest that you look for the hp save yourself some $$$ just look on a really good search engine for high potency face firming activator ala perricone just search for all or some of those words I have found 3 sites now that sell the hp all $110 so just look for the hp. If you can try and find a site that tells you how to make it I want to try and make a 5% when my next bottle is gone I know that goracergo has a formula for this but I am not sure where he has been. Justmeagain thank you for the reminder I will set my VCR.

     
    Old 08-11-2001, 08:21 AM   #52
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    I set my VCR, but Dr. Perricone was not on. Maybe different segments played in different markets.

    Did anybody see him on the show?

     
    Old 08-12-2001, 02:01 PM   #53
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    I accidently taped the wrong show so I didnt see it.

     
    Old 08-13-2001, 08:09 AM   #54
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Hi guys! Have been on vacation, so just got to see last wk's posts.

    MickeyM: You asked about Accutane. I don't know for sure, but I would think a topical would be okay to use. Also, you asked about using the emollient. I think (for money reasons) that I'm just going to use the HP for two months & see what that does first before I try anything else.

    Justmeagain: I know what you mean about feeling skeptical. There's so much false info out there, but I figure this is worth a shot. I know MickeyM is on the up & up, & if it worked for her I'm gonna give it a go. As you'll see below, Perricone's company is supposed to mail me a copy of the study.

    I wrote Perricone's company the following:

    Hi: I'm interested in using the N.V. Perricone Face Firming Activator for acne scarring. I understand that the doctor did a study and found improvement in depressed acne scars.

    Have some questions about the study:

    1. What % of alpha lipoic was used? The 1% or the 3%?

    2. Did the patients also use the oral supplements recommended by the doctor? If so, which supplements?

    3. How many times a day was the product applied?

    4. What type of scars improved? Depressed ones, discolored ones, and/or hypertrophic ones?

    5. What was the average percentage of improvement for depressed scars?

    Thanks much,
    Tina

    They responded:

    Hello,
    I will try to answer all of your questions.

    1. 5%

    2. This was solely a topical application.

    3. Twice daily-a.m. and p.m.

    4. This was al type of scarring-depressed, acne, cheloid, discolored.

    5. Improvement was seen with all patients. We do not have a percentage. Would you like me to mail you the article? If so, forward your name and address.

    I hope this is helpful!

    I sent my address to them, so hopefully I'll receive the article. Will let you guys know what it says.

    Just got my HP this am & have already tried it. No tingling sensation but I've been using Retin-A micro in that area, so maybe my skin is used to being irritated. Will keep you guys posted as to any results I see.

    Good luck! Tina

     
    Old 08-13-2001, 07:29 PM   #55
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    I wonder why in the study they use 5% but the highest that they sell is 3% I think that i might add some ala powder to my hp to make it stronger?? I am glad to see that the internal supplements werent used since due to medication I cannot take some of them.

     
    Old 08-13-2001, 07:49 PM   #56
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    Mickey:
    Does the 3% not work for your scar anymore? I don't think it's that easy to homemade one's own ALA concentration correctly but I not familar with it anyhow.

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    Old 08-13-2001, 08:56 PM   #57
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Hey Mickey: I know. I had the same question, so I asked if they meant 3 or 5% in my reply e-mail. Haven't gotten a reply yet, but when I do, I'll post it. Please let us know how mixing the powder in works. Are you just buying capsules of ALA to get the powder? Thanks! Tina

     
    Old 08-13-2001, 09:15 PM   #58
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    Im not sure how I will do it I havent gotten my order in yet but I dont think that I want to pour the capsule powder into the bottle I think that after I pump the product onto my hand then maybe I will mix some powder into that Im not sure how muck though. I would definatly use the powder though instead of crushing capsules that to me is a pain. Tina I e-mailed perricones office over a week ago and they still havent responded I asked about the internal supps. and using the product after accutane they have been giving you very good responses thanks for posting all of them for us.

     
    Old 08-14-2001, 03:27 AM   #59
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    tina, where did you order the potent stuff? what's the web address? thanks

     
    Old 08-14-2001, 01:11 PM   #60
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    If you go to a search engine like Google, Newbie, & type "high potency perricone face firming" you should be able to come up w/some web sites that sell the product.

    Haven't heard back from Perricone's company re: the 3% vs 5%, but I called them earlier. The woman I spoke to said the HP contains 5% alpha lipoic, while the regular contains 3%.

     
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