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    Old 07-17-2001, 09:46 AM   #1
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    Acne scar treatment that works

    I was reading a magazine called skin I think that it comes out once a year but am not sure there was no date on the magazine, anyways there was an entire article about scarring. One succesful treatment for scars was a product from Dr. Nicholas Perricone called High potency face firming activator. It basically is a topical form of alpha lipoic acid. He makes two types of this topical product one is just ala face firming activator and the other is the high potency both with NTP/complex. Only problem is the only one for acne scarring is the high potency one and it is very hrd to get if you find Nicholas Perricone on a search engine you should be able to link his site. They will not sell you the high potency product until you have used the regular one for 3 moths which is a waste of time and money. The regular one is a concentration of 2% the high potency is 5% which the Dr says is needed for scarring. He also recommends taking oral supplements of alapha lipoic acid, DMAE, vitamin c (esther c),& vitamin e in the form of(tocotrienols). I did this a few months ago and my scarring reduced about 70% I was able to find the high potency product at one skin care site but it wasnt easy to find most of the skin care sites that offer his product only sell the regular product. I have purchased another bottle to see if the rest of the scarring that I have can be reduced any more with another treatment of the product. BTW the high potency product cost me $109 but well worth it considering I was going to have laser surgery which I was quoted $2500/treatment and would need 2 treatments ($5000). I stil have active acne that I have had for 14 years I have been on everything except accutane and am now using Acnease which I think is working I have been on it 3 weeks and breakouts are much better I have already ordered another month since I dont think that just one will do it.

     
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    Old 07-17-2001, 12:16 PM   #2
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    do you mind if i ask what kind of scarring you had? were they superficial dark marks or indented? how bad were they before you started using this?

     
    Old 07-17-2001, 01:19 PM   #3
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    I had pretty severe cysts that left pitts and shallow scarring. It didnt really help me much with red marks even though it is supposed to help with discoloration. So basically it improved my pitted and shallow scars and it also helped with the discoloration I have alot of brown to my skin even though me true skin tone is pale it just didnt help the red marks.

     
    Old 07-17-2001, 01:38 PM   #4
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    Here is the actual article the cover of the magazine said Conde Nast then SKIN a supplement to Vouge,Glamour, Mademoiselle, Self, Vanity Fair, Allure, and Womens sports & fittness. It says If you want to treat older, sunken scars or acne depressions:
    try one of the new over-the-counter creams containing alpha lepoic acid, an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory that seems to digest the injured collagen in scars, according to Nicholas V. Perricone, M.D., assistant clinical professor of dermatology at Yale University Medical School. Apply the cream twice a day for 3 months. In small clinical studies by Dr. Perricone, who patented the treatment, the cream reduced the size of acne pores and raised depressed scars on the face.
    I tried to find other brands but I think that since he patented the treatment that is why i was unsuccesful. I did one time find a site that showed how to make the cream it was rejuvenes (sp) lotion and pure powered alapha lipoic acid I cant find the site anymore but it was in thread form. Hope this helps.

     
    Old 07-17-2001, 05:02 PM   #5
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Hi, I looked up a little info. on the doctor and on the products and it seems quite interesting. Can you tell me which of the products you used or did you have to use all the products together.

     
    Old 07-17-2001, 05:51 PM   #6
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    The Dr. sells several products all that I used was the high potency alpha lipoic acid face firming activator. I think that somewhere on his site he says to use several products for scarring but it was like $500 for everything. I found the high potency buy going to a really good search engine and looked up topical high potency alpha lipoic acid. Like I said it is kinda hard to find there is only one site that I have found that sells the high potency product.

     
    Old 07-22-2001, 03:52 PM   #7
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Mickeym:
    Was that the entire article? How did you apply this treatment? (i.e. - Only to individual scars or in the general area.) This treatment also helped your pitted scars?

    I am trying to locate additional information on this, but have only been able to locate sellers on the Web. I'd like to read any additional info on this topic. If anyone has additional info or has tried this, please post.

     
    Old 07-22-2001, 05:04 PM   #8
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    MickeyM .... how old are you .. are you male/female .. what type of skin do you have?

    I know that some scar treatments work best on certain skin types.

     
    Old 07-22-2001, 06:01 PM   #9
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    you can make your own 5 percent cream
    get a cream base of coconut oil or something. Get pure alpha lipoic and ground 5 grams for every 100 grams of coconut oil. 4 ounces of my coconut oil is 112 grams so I would add a little over 5 grams of it. I have been using this with good results over the last week.

     
    Old 07-22-2001, 10:11 PM   #10
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Hi: Where do you buy the alpha lipoic? A health food store? Also, do you buy the pill form (not a liquid capsule)? Thanks for your help! Tina

     
    Old 07-27-2001, 11:33 PM   #11
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    Sorry you all I have been on vacation for a little over a week that is why I havent responded to you. Goracergo must of read the same site that I read however I dont rember it being coconut oil I thought it was rejevenes lotion but it has been a while they had a site that sold pure powerded ala it was pretty cheap to i just cannot find that site. I found it one night at work when I was really bored I looked up the topical ala topic for like 8 hours this was a few months ago. Justmeagain sorry i cannot tell you where to find it. I emailed Dr perricones office and they said that there were no Dr offices that sold it in my state so I had to find in online. If you go to a really good search engine and look up topical alpha lipoic acid you should find something there are several sites that sell it but you have to make sure that it is the high potencey most sites just have the 1% and yes that was the whole article. There were several scar treatments but most of them refered to non acne scars the only other treatment that they had for acne scars was punch treatment and laser combo which I know must have been thousands of dollars and this woman couldnt leave her home for weeks. BTW I am a white female 24 years old pale complection with dark hair and blue eyes. Hope this helps any other ?s let me know I will try and respond a little sooner. Also goracergo it will probally take a little longer to see really good results the doc says that it takes 6-8 weeks but maybe you are just really lucky!!!

     
    Old 07-29-2001, 02:56 PM   #12
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    MickeyM:

    Thanks for the info. I hope you had a good vacation. While you were away, I read a copy of Perricone's book. He has a chapter which discusses ALA. He did not explain in detail why he saw an improvement in acne scars. He claims to have basically stumbled on this while treating 15 patients age 35-55 to test an anti-aging treatment. He also claims that in a subsequent study, patients experienced an overall 70-80% improvement after 6 months. He does not go into too much more detail than that.

    It does concern me that there have been so many hits to this message, but very few replies. It looks like many people on this board have tried some drastic measures, but you seem to be the only one that has tried this treatment and posted. To me, this treatment looks a lot more humane than many of the other options to treat acne scarring (indentations).

    70-80% improvement is very subjective. You indicated that your scarring reduced about 70% on your pitted and shallow scars. This seems pretty terrific. I don't want to be a pest, but could you detail this further (i.e. - Were the pitted scars less shallow? How deep are the scars)?

    I really appreciate all the information that you have shared. I am also very happy for you since you found a product that helps you.

    I'll hopefully hear from you soon.

     
    Old 07-29-2001, 03:22 PM   #13
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    Re: Acne scar treatment that works

    Micky you said that this scarring procedure ''really works'', have you found one's that dont work?????

     
    Old 07-29-2001, 03:26 PM   #14
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    micky you said that this treatment works. have you found other treatments that dont work??

     
    Old 07-29-2001, 05:35 PM   #15
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    Hi justmeagain yes my vacation was good thank you. I am glad that you read the book it seemed that it was based on wrinkle cures that is why I never read it I wish that it had more info about the ala. I have emailed the drs office one time to see if I could order the high potency product from them and if there were any Drs that sold it in my state. They said that there were no doctors selling the products in my area and they said that the only way that they would sell me the high potency is if I tried the regular product for 3 months and this seemed like a waste of time and money to me that is why I had to find that high potency product. I dont know that if you saw on his site that he is going to be making T.V. apperances on PBS aug 2nd @ 8 p.m. in tampa, aug 3 @ 8 p.m. in orlando, aug 7 @ 8 p.m. in new york and aug 9 @ 8 p.m. in pittsburgh, he is also appearing on fox news live aug 24th @ 1:30 pm est, and ABC's the View on sept 10th. I am hoping that he talks about the ala and not just wrinkle treatments. Also justmeagain if you have any ?s im sure that you can e-mail his office hopefully they can answer any ??s for you. I have a second bottle of the high potency I am just waiting to find something to clear my skin before I use it I just ordered spiro and diane 35 in hopes that they will help I know that my acne is horomonal. It is all along my jawline and neck however when i was a teenager it was all over my whole face and not my neck the large majority of the scarring that I have is on my cheeks I would say that I have seen worse scarring and I really shouldnt complain but the scars were pretty bad no makeup would cover it up that is for sure and it was both sides of my face it pretty much covered the entire cheekbone area it definatly looked worse in sunlight and floresent lighting. It certainly wasnt minor scarring that is for sure I was once at my gyno trying to get bcp and she said "looks like you have been hit with acne pretty hard you have awful scars" gee thanks alot like I dont already know that. This is for steven2984 and all others interested I went to a plastic surgeon she said that with my severe scarring it would take 2 treatments of the whole face @ $2500 a peice. I then went to anohter ps who said that microdermabraision would work wonders and I would be scar free. She said that I would need 9 treatments 1-2 weeks apart it was $1000 which wasnt nearly as bad as $5000 so I prepaid and was very excited since the Dr gave me such high hopes she also gave me peels 3 times before the microderm they were intense peels im talking i couldnt move my face and I could hardly open my mouth because my skin was so tight it turned dark brown and peeled off in like huge layers I can tell you it took off alot of skin it was like peeling off a mask. Well after the $1000 and 12 weeks very little imoprovement in scarring then 6 months later I started using mederma that didnt work, after that I used nutmeg and honey mask for aboth 5 months that did nothing then 6 months after that I found the ala it has worked better by far for my scarring than anything else did and it very well might not work for everyone I might actually be lucky for once but hopefully it will work for others as well if not better than it did for me. I will try and find some of the sites that I read a few months ago @ work today and will try and post when I get home if anyone else has any ?s. Justmeagain there have been very few posts im sure that alot of people are sick of trying things for scarring and think that laser treatment is the only option I used to but hopefully others will try this and have good results and post them and more people will try this less harsh approach and less expensive also. Tina081168 the topical ala I bought online and the ala that I took in pill form was a pill ive never seen capsules and I think that you can get them about everywhere that sells supplements.

     
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