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Old 03-23-2002, 08:00 PM   #1
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a question about dr. leungs theory

he said himself that b5 is only used for the precursor coenzyme a, so why doesnt he talk at all about taking that at a lesser dosage instead of b5?

 
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Old 03-24-2002, 10:36 AM   #2
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

I don't think we can get an enzyme - from what I understand- vitamins function with chemicals in our bodies(called enzymes) - the coenzyme is manufactured by the vitamin in our bodies- I think? An enzyme is defined as: any of numerous proteins or conjugated proteins produced by living organisms and functioning as biochemical catalysts in living organisms. Blah blah blah... so I think we have to take certain vites to produce certain coenzymes. But I'm not a Dr/scientist/or nutritionist(:

 
Old 03-24-2002, 11:35 AM   #3
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

They do make the coenzyme, its called pantethine, and its readily available, we can supplement with many enzymes such as those used for digestion (protease, amylase, lipase etc..)

 
Old 03-24-2002, 12:50 PM   #4
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

I asked him the same question during an e-mail conversation and he told me that Coenzyme-A by itself is not readily absorbable which is why we have to take B5 in higher doses

 
Old 03-24-2002, 03:19 PM   #5
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

Gaia, thanks for that input! Very interesting, this question has been buggin me for a while..

So taking like 4-5g of CoA would have the same effect as 4-5g of B5 a day? ouch, thats not the route i was hoping for...But some people, like ChrisL (i think that was her name), only have to take 900mg of it and get really dry skin? Any ideas? Can we let it dissolve and in water, maybe that would help?

 
Old 03-24-2002, 03:25 PM   #6
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

Also...so if we found a way to make B5 or CoA much more absorbable, it would be useable at a much lower dosage? Is there any known way to do this, like taking it with another vitamin, or as i said before, mixing it in water?

 
Old 03-24-2002, 04:01 PM   #7
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

One way to do this, already described by Dr. Leung, is to make and use a 20% cream applied to the skin 6 times a day. In the second set of letters Dr. Leung describes how to make a honey-like mixture of b5 and water.

 
Old 03-24-2002, 04:52 PM   #8
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I take my B5 dissolved in water. It works fine i think. I havent notice anything get so much worse since i started, but its been less than a week so hard to tell if it has gotten better.

 
Old 03-24-2002, 07:02 PM   #9
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

The body will not create CoA if its not needed. On top of that, the body will not oxidize fats readily if there is insulin (and other regulating hormones) in the body.

So i figure you need to practically overdose on this stuff of overcome those barriers...

I dont like this whole idea...

 
Old 03-24-2002, 09:13 PM   #10
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

I see what you are saying in the sense of how b5/CoA deals with fats, but not the insulin concept, what role does in CoA play in oxidation and insulin? I know CoA is at the start along with squalene in cholesterol synthesis

 
Old 03-26-2002, 07:54 PM   #11
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Well, in a nutshell, the body preferentially uses glucose/glycogen as its main source of energy.

The presence of insulin (which tells the body that it has sugar to burn) will inhibit the mobilization and oxidation of fats. (hence why diabetics lose so much weight w/o insulin)

It is true that CoA is made from B5, and that CoA is an important factor of fat oxidation (as well as other metabolic pathways), but if insulin is present, you wont get fat oxidation.

So i dont really know how excess B5 will force fat oxidation other than the fact that maybe extremely high concentration will screw with the bodies natural regulation and force fat oxidation.

If this is true, (and im not saying it is) it cant be that good for you...

 
Old 03-26-2002, 08:21 PM   #12
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Re: a question about dr. leungs theory

i dont think B5 works in that way, I think it works in that wen it turns into CoA, it is used to metabolize fats and cholesterol/esters in the body, when people have acne, there hormonal imbalance uses of the CoA that would normally be used for the fat/esters, thats why B5/CoA stop oily skin and acne

 
Old 03-26-2002, 08:52 PM   #13
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I dont really understand what you're saying. CoA is bound to the fatty acid and is which then goes through a whole cycle of oxidizing the fat...

CoA isnt actually used in replacement of fat...?

 
Old 03-26-2002, 09:42 PM   #14
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No, not at all hehe, I am saying that CoA is used for the pathway of cholesterol sythesizing (along with squalene), and taking more in helps to metabolize for fat/cholesterol, its just based on what leung said, read his theory, its much better said than mine <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/wink.gif">

 
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