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    Old 03-17-2003, 06:02 AM   #16
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    Good Morning campers! So, we have determined (I think) that sex addiction is real and can cause problems so, that brings me to a question for Steve.. do you think that the ready availability of pornographic material and the in your face sexuality in the media has contributed to the fact that this addiction is becoming more prevalent? Or does it not matter?

     
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    Old 03-17-2003, 09:00 AM   #17
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    I think that the Internet and the massive amount of porn and unlimited chat availability on-line has fueled sex addiction. In the “olden days” you had to go into a seedy adult bookstore to get your porn (which was only a slight impediment for a sex addict in the height of his or her addiction). Today, you can access any kind of disgusting, vile, filth your imagination can think of, with a click of the mouse. If you like to look at people having sex with barn yard animals, there is a sight just for you. And it is all protected by the first amendment, or at least, the United States Supreme Court’s interpretation of the first amendment. Even child pornography, where the images are computer generated and not taken from real children, has been protected by the Supreme Court. I am not saying I think porn should be outlawed, because what would be next. But, it is far to easy to access porn. I would suggest, that instead of having to take proactive action to filter out the porn, such as internet filters, which I can tell you really do not work, someone should have to take some proactive step to have access to porn. But again, the defenders of the first amendment would have a fit if that were introduced in Congress.

    I also think you are just now beginning to her people talk about it. I think sex addiction has been around for many years and people have just been too embarrassed about it to talk about it. I have heard more and more about the topic in the main stream media of late. So I think it’s a combination of more addiction, and more media attention.

    But the reality of the issue is that we addicts, can not expect government to protect us from ourselves. I am sure there is “healthy” use of porn, but I do not know anything about that, since any amount of porn is too much porn for a sex addict. It is like heroin for the heroin addict. A heroin addict can not say, “well, Im just going to have a little heroin each day.” It doesn’t work that way for him and it doesn’t work that way for the sex addict. A little acting out leads to more acting out. It is Hard to get away from it. If you are an alcoholic, you can try to stay out of bars and avoid parties where you know there will be a lot of drinking. Drug addicts can avoid places where they used to get drugs and change the people with whom they associate. For the sex addict, Madison Avenue advertising is throwing it in your face every day. (again, I am not insinuating that it is easier to be a drug or alcohol addict).

    So, in answer to your question, yes, I think it is more difficult than ever to avoid sexual temptation, but I am not sure what to do about it.



     
    Old 03-17-2003, 11:14 AM   #18
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    I suppose just trying to carry on a normal relationship would prove difficult in that case? Especially if she likes to dress up in certain styles of lingerie. That's really sad! Us druggies and alckies can figure out how to avoid those things but you have to avoid the one thing that is one of God's greatest gift to us? Or maybe I'm overreacting?

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    Old 03-17-2003, 11:26 AM   #19
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    No, having a relationship with a woman is okay, and sexy undies, etc. are cool as well (on her that is). My life isn't that bad! Really!

     
    Old 03-17-2003, 11:31 AM   #20
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    Glad to hear it! Boy that had all the makings of some real depression! Go foward and be fruitful Dear One!

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    Old 03-17-2003, 04:24 PM   #21
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    Steve,
    You asked a question wondering if it could be a psychological or prescription issue. Do you think that maybe your high ambition to stave off your sexual addiction that you also psychologically block your natural ability?

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    Old 03-18-2003, 07:46 AM   #22
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    I know the sex addiction is psychological. I also think that the Wellbutrine stimulates the libido and as a result has some effect, but it is not the root cause. The sex adition can rob valuable hours from you life. I am generally a highly motivated, multi-task type of person, and also have ADHD, so I tend to have a pretty intense work day. I am sure the sex addiction has its effect, but I believe I am able to live life to the fullest, relatively speaking. I also talk a lot about this type of think in counseling, so I am aware of it.

     
    Old 03-18-2003, 07:53 AM   #23
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    Steve, have you ever considered that the sex addiction is a symptom of the ADHD? That potentially the right ADHD med could help? I have ADD and while I wouldn't say I am addicted to sex, I used to CONSTANTLY crave and now, I am like that with exercise. Doing these activities help even out the brain chemistry of an ADD er and therefore, help them focus. (It's all about chemistry!)

     
    Old 03-18-2003, 08:12 AM   #24
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    Yes, Chippie, I am sure it is a major contributor. ADD people tend to have very addictive personalities. It is very common for ADD people to be drug addicts, gambling, etc. I notice that when I am most tempted, it is when I get board in the afternoon at work. I took Ritalin for about 5 years, and now I take Conserta, which is a time release once a day med., but the same general drug, I think. But in answer to your question, I am sure it has a major effect. Its like, if I am not getting constant stimulation, I just get very restless. And unfortunately, for me, I have tended to get that stimulus through sex and pornography.


     
    Old 03-18-2003, 12:25 PM   #25
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    I'm also ADD and blonde to boot... I've been double-blasted by the powers that be! I am on Adderal once a day and it does a great job at keeping my thinking a little less scattered. My sexual needs go back and forth pretty much on their own time table. I don't usually get to choose that for myself. It can be bummer when there is a "he" involved in the picture... but I generally charm them into a good game of "wait and see"... LOL.
    Honestly, I had no idea that the Adderal could affect that part of me...learn something new every day!
    But my question was in reference to your ability to get junior interested in the same thing you might be interested in. Could it be a psychological process working against you for fear of your addiction running amok?
    Maybe you actually answered the question and I'm just too blonde to realize...but hey, I really did learn something! I was wondering where the heck that desire of mine kept running off to!

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    Old 03-18-2003, 12:37 PM   #26
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    Im sorry, I misunderstood your question. Yes, that problem may very well be psychological. I just do not know.

     
    Old 03-19-2003, 05:08 AM   #27
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    Crazy thing the Human Brain. All these funny electrical and chemical impulses making us all wacky. Humans should have an autopilot button.

     
    Old 03-19-2003, 06:55 AM   #28
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    Yes. Well, we have all become so close, just like family, so I thought I should tell you I am going to be away tomorrow for about 7 days. I am going to Pinehurst Resort to play golf (and maybe do a little business)(but mostly golf). So I will leave you all in charge here.

    I will miss you all deeply…even OpenSeason, who I am sure is repressing something he or she would like to get off his or her chest (which is it?)

     
    Old 03-19-2003, 09:00 AM   #29
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    Our lovely Dr. Phil AKA OpenSeason is of a male species.

    I'm sure he will appreciate your well wishes.

    I hope you will hunt us down and let us know how you are doing when your return.

    Who luvs ya baby!

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    Old 03-19-2003, 10:43 AM   #30
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    Hit em long and straight Steve!

     
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