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Old 06-23-2005, 07:54 AM   #1
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What is Suboxone

I have been on Vicodin for over a year at 3 a day and have not been able to quit, the wd's I go through even at 3-4 a day are just miserable. Someone suggested to me Suboxone for a few days to help. I think it was Goddessgrl65 who said that she had a friend in a similar situation and took Suboxone for three days and was able to step off of the vikes pretty easy.

Can I get some information on this and would I go to my doctor to obtain Suboxone and what is it?

Thank you all for the help.

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Old 06-23-2005, 03:57 PM   #2
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Hey Havehadit...

Do a search on the boards for sub and or sub Dr's, I believe there have been several who have posted links where you can find a sub Dr in your area...I may be totally wrong on this one, I personally don't use the sub, I have heard it is very costly, but I think you have to go to an addiction specialist to get it...then again, there are several on here with much more first hand knowledge than I have.

From what a few veterans have posted, it's supposed to work wonderfully for opiate addiction...definatly worth looking into, if it's an option for you?

Good luck and keep posting...

Angel

 
Old 06-23-2005, 04:09 PM   #3
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I have been on Vicodin for over a year at 3 a day and have not been able to quit, the wd's I go through even at 3-4 a day are just miserable. Someone suggested to me Suboxone for a few days to help. I think it was Goddessgrl65 who said that she had a friend in a similar situation and took Suboxone for three days and was able to step off of the vikes pretty easy.

Can I get some information on this and would I go to my doctor to obtain Suboxone and what is it?

Thank you all for the help.

Signed.

One deeply frustrated and worn out guy
Hi,
I have been reading your posts and yes you sound deeply frustrated. And yes, compared to others, you are on a small "doze" of the pills. Although pills are not usually my DOC, I did them when I had the chance. You can do a search and read my story thus far in my road to recovery.

I know that AA and NA are not for all. I am still not convinced either. But, I am still not ruling it out. At the moment I am seeing a physotheripyst (sp) to help with the past and another councelor to help with my future. Plus, some AA and private group therapy.

Stopping pills, alcohol -- whatever is -- easy after the WD. The hard part is finding out why we do this to ourselves.
I am doing a lot of soul serching latley and havent been on this bord too much.

Gr8ful? Been LQQking for you on another board. (paragraphs intact?)
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Old 06-23-2005, 05:09 PM   #4
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I think you are doing really good already. You may not feel like it, but you are at least asking for advice. That is really good. My hubby never did until our family was almost torn apart. I don't know much about subs. I would be to scared that I could get addicted to something else though. You just hang in there and keep up the good work!!! It does pay off in the end. Almost Friday!! Have you had anything today? If not, then you are just that much closer!!! Keep it up!!!

 
Old 06-23-2005, 05:52 PM   #5
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2 1/2 today. I am just going to ct it and just bite the bullet on Friday. I called two sub doctors and the cost for the sub for 8 days is 1200.00 dollars for the visit and the medication. Forget it. I will take the wd's.

W.

 
Old 06-24-2005, 12:55 AM   #6
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Dear havehadit,

That doc you found sounds like one of the ones who just got into it for the money. Exploiting middle class people who have become addicted. Shame on HIM!

My doc has been an addiction specialist for twenty five years, he is also a Gastroenterologist. (tummy doctor) The initial visit was $80 and the subsequent, once a month visits were $60, well worth it to me. The meds are expensive though as my insurance told the pharmacist that I could take methadone pills instead. They are very concerned with only covering low cost medication, like generic. I have an HMO, in which my doc did not participate.otherwise, the office visits would have been even less.

Look around for another doc., if you need the help after this current try. It's so beautiful outside, go for nice long walks as I feel that helps to replace your own endorphins that your body makes. It hasn't been making any for awhile as you were supplying them to your brains opiate receptors.

Taper down very slowly, in the meantime, exercise, do a hobby, ANYTHING, that will keep your mind focused. If you have a bit of minor withdrawals that include, jumpy restless legs at night, etc. Ask your doc for some Clonidine as it helps someone like yourself who is on a low dose.

Hopefully, your family doc. either is familiar with clonidine for easing withdrawals, or he isn't. If not, ask him to refer you to someone who is, whom hopefully participates with your insurance.

Good Luck and Congratulations on getting back to the real world!

"someones mom"

 
Old 06-24-2005, 11:17 AM   #7
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Dear havehadit,

That doc you found sounds like one of the ones who just got into it for the money. Exploiting middle class people who have become addicted. Shame on HIM!

My doc has been an addiction specialist for twenty five years, he is also a Gastroenterologist. (tummy doctor) The initial visit was $80 and the subsequent, once a month visits were $60, well worth it to me. The meds are expensive though as my insurance told the pharmacist that I could take methadone pills instead. They are very concerned with only covering low cost medication, like generic. I have an HMO, in which my doc did not participate.otherwise, the office visits would have been even less.

Look around for another doc., if you need the help after this current try. It's so beautiful outside, go for nice long walks as I feel that helps to replace your own endorphins that your body makes. It hasn't been making any for awhile as you were supplying them to your brains opiate receptors.

Taper down very slowly, in the meantime, exercise, do a hobby, ANYTHING, that will keep your mind focused. If you have a bit of minor withdrawals that include, jumpy restless legs at night, etc. Ask your doc for some Clonidine as it helps someone like yourself who is on a low dose.

Hopefully, your family doc. either is familiar with clonidine for easing withdrawals, or he isn't. If not, ask him to refer you to someone who is, whom hopefully participates with your insurance.

Good Luck and Congratulations on getting back to the real world!

"someones mom"
I did get a hold of a sub doctor who charges 300.00 for the visit and the meds. The nurse I spoke with said that in my case they would give the smallest amount of suboxone for about 10 days and that I would be able to step off of this fairly easy. I have an appointment for tommorrow. I am able to space my three vikes a day out for about 6 hours and after that I start to feel awful. Taking time off of work right now is just not an option for me. I am a 100 % commission salesman and I have a wife and baby boy to support.

I think that I am doing the right thing as this is new to me. I tried the clonidine once before and I was not able to stay awake at my desk and it did little to alleviate wd's. I am kind of between a rock and a hard place right now because I just started working for the company that I am at and I am doing quite well, but they are strict about taking time off in the first 90 days. I know I could quit for good if I could get 3 to 4 days off along with the weekend. But I am not going to be able to do that and I want off of these damn pills.

Thanks to everyone's kindness.

W.

 
Old 06-24-2005, 12:00 PM   #8
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W.

Doesn't matter how...as long as you do it! I'm happy for you and I'm sure it will work out!!

dp

 
Old 06-24-2005, 09:31 PM   #9
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DO NOT stay on the sub for more than two weeks.. It is addictive just as any other opiate is. I have found the w/d's are not as bad but, bad enough to make you feel like you have no energy to do anything! I hope you have success with it as I did!

 
Old 06-25-2005, 07:46 AM   #10
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I have an appointment this coming week with a sub doctor. I have not taken any vicodin this morning. The nurse I spoke with yesterday said since my dosage is under 25 mg a day she said that they have a 7 day detox with sub that works pretty well for people on low dosages. I am going to keep my dosage as low as possible till then. I just can't go through wd's at work again. I just don't have the patience and energy to do that again. Not going to work and taking time off is just not an option at this time, unless I want to be unemployed.

Thanks for everyone's advice.

W.

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Old 06-25-2005, 09:25 AM   #11
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You are right about work! I had that happen w/a previous employer and I KNOW that I couldn't go through that again at work! I surely hope everything works out for you!

 
Old 06-25-2005, 04:33 PM   #12
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You are right about work! I had that happen w/a previous employer and I KNOW that I couldn't go through that again at work! I surely hope everything works out for you!
Thank you.

 
Old 06-29-2005, 02:57 AM   #13
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Hey Havehadit...

Do a search on the boards for sub and or sub Dr's, I believe there have been several who have posted links where you can find a sub Dr in your area...I may be totally wrong on this one, I personally don't use the sub, I have heard it is very costly, but I think you have to go to an addiction specialist to get it...then again, there are several on here with much more first hand knowledge than I have.

From what a few veterans have posted, it's supposed to work wonderfully for opiate addiction...definatly worth looking into, if it's an option for you?

Good luck and keep posting...

Angel
Isn't that ironic?! You can get oxy from almost any doctor, but you have to go to an addiction specialist to get the med to get off of drugs. Oxy is so easy to get, you could probably get a prescription from a doctor in English literature.

I heard that Suboxone even costs more than oxy (when buying through legit channels). That's crazy! It is as if the drug companies want people to be addicted to their drugs or something....

 
Old 06-29-2005, 06:56 AM   #14
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Isn't that ironic?! You can get oxy from almost any doctor, but you have to go to an addiction specialist to get the med to get off of drugs. Oxy is so easy to get, you could probably get a prescription from a doctor in English literature.

I heard that Suboxone even costs more than oxy (when buying through legit channels). That's crazy! It is as if the drug companies want people to be addicted to their drugs or something....
I was thinking about that, yeah it's ridiculouls. Like any of us wake up one day and say "gee I can't think of anything I would like in my life more then to be addicted to drugs."

It seems like the way things are set up it is hard to get a medication that will help you get clean.

 
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