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    Old 08-15-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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    My son has delayed speech and has been flagged up by speech therapist, audiologist and doctor at the local child development centre as likely to be autistic. We are waiting for possible diognosis later in the year but the uncertainty is just driving me crazy.I am finding myself constantly observing him.One day I will convince myself he is autistic and the next I am unsure.He does have alot of red flags, poor eye contact, flapping his hands, walks on toes,lots of repetative behaviour, restricted interests, not responding to his name, severe rages, sensitivity to sounds, the list goes on. However what I find confusing is that he gives us good eye contact when he initiates interaction but not when we try to engage him. He thrives the attention from adults but has never interacted with another child. On the surface he appears to interact well although always on his terms and often inapropriatly.His play generally involves arranging his cars or trains or studying them, however the other day he was playing with his train set using lots of jargon and I was unsure if he is beginning to engage in imaginary play. He has acted out small snippets from his thomas tank dvd and repeated over and over, but if he was using his imagination would that mean he couldn't have autism. perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part.Does anyone have a child with autism who behaves this way or could offer any advice as the uncertainty is making me ill. I don't seem to be able to think of anything else. Please help

     
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    Old 08-15-2011, 04:45 PM   #2
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    A child with autism sill not have every symtom .... And still can have strengths. Remember that autism is a spectrum disorder. Wit what you descrbed initally fits into the typical behaviors. Try not to over analyse his behavior, but it is important to use observation. Write down the things you see. 2 yr olds ar enot ready to play with other children , so that is no surprise. At 3 yrs old typical development would be that a child will play side by side anther child. By three in a half a child can start be interested in other children and play with them In order to do this the child needs to have enough language skils to interact . They will engage in imanginary play and love to play house and dress up.
    Os your child using words at all? Did your child ever lose any language as a toddler? The hand flapping is stemming behavior. Also a young autistic child may engage in staring up at lights, really fixate on a ceiling fan, "spinning objects" He could rock back and forth , this can show up very early , or head bang. With more severe autism the child may not even be aware of his own parents being in the same room. Young autistic children may appear to be deaf or hard of hearing. the may turn their head to the side when you talk to them. Temper tantrums are common.
    My son loved Thomas train when very young, but he would like to line the trains up , nobody showed him how to do that.
    Autism is a certain cluster of behaviors that are seen in all areas of development.

     
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    Thankyou for the quick responce. Did your son interact with adults. Is this often seen with autism. My son has around 50 words but mostly jargon and often speaks with strange accent, he does head bang also. When he was younger he would spin everything, now he just lines his cars up or repeats the same action or sequence of events over and over, is this normal for a child his age.

     
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    Thankyou for the quick responce. Did your son interact with adults. Is this often seen with autism. My son has around 50 words but mostly jargon and often speaks with strange accent, he does head bang also. When he was younger he would spin everything, now he just lines his cars up or repeats the same action or sequence of events over and over, is this normal for a child his age.
    my son could interact with me, but sometimes he would be very resistent. It could be very hard to get him to focus or even look at me. I have also worked with other autistic children And I could get a better response. The behaviors you described are not typical.

     
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    A child with autism sill not have every symtom .... And still can have strengths. Remember that autism is a spectrum disorder. Wit what you descrbed initally fits into the typical behaviors. Try not to over analyse his behavior, but it is important to use observation. Write down the things you see. 2 yr olds ar enot ready to play with other children , so that is no surprise. At 3 yrs old typical development would be that a child will play side by side anther child. By three in a half a child can start be interested in other children and play with them In order to do this the child needs to have enough language skils to interact . They will engage in imanginary play and love to play house and dress up.
    Os your child using words at all? Did your child ever lose any language as a toddler? The hand flapping is stemming behavior. Also a young autistic child may engage in staring up at lights, really fixate on a ceiling fan, "spinning objects" He could rock back and forth , this can show up very early , or head bang. With more severe autism the child may not even be aware of his own parents being in the same room. Young autistic children may appear to be deaf or hard of hearing. the may turn their head to the side when you talk to them. Temper tantrums are common.
    My son loved Thomas train when very young, but he would like to line the trains up , nobody showed him how to do that.
    Autism is a certain cluster of behaviors that are seen in all areas of development.
    I know you're feeling really scared and frustrated. I have a now 15 yr. son that is on the high functioning end of the Autism Spectrum. I have a wealth of information I would love to share with you as I have been on this journey for a while now. Assuming your child is about 2 1/2 yrs. old, the first rule of thumb is children should be stringing 2 words together by 2 yrs. old ie: (more milk). If he's still non-verbal or not stringing 2 words together I would get a speech therapist involved now! As far as process of elimination you would want to get a blood test to see if he has something called "fragile X" it was the first test we did on our son. Another thing is to see if you dealing with something called apraxia of speech. From what you're describing your child appears to have a lot of the signs of a child with Autism. With that said, the very best thing you can do is to be his Advocate, which you are doing by not being in denial and looking for answers. Good job Mom!! I highly suggest finding a specialist in your area that works with children with Autism. Time is of the essence. It's imperative that you get your child into an early intervention program with a team of people that work with your child...it may be a group setting, which is good for the social skills aspect. It's important because the brain is still very much in growth mode in the younger years and with kiddos on the spectrum the best way to get the neurons to connect is by repetition. We were very fortunate to have a few women in our area that had a Developmental Enrichment Group here in Indiana that worked with these kiddos. They were AMAZING! My son didn't talk at age 3. With help from his Speech Therapist he was talking in no time...then the gals from the Enrichment Group focused on everything else. The brain works like a sponge when children are young so I suggest taking advantage of this time now. I would also recommend finding a Pediatric Neurologist to run some test to make sure nothing else is going on. Alot of the Specialist can take months/years to get into so don't wait for the Speech and Occupational Therapy Intervention Therapies...get those started asap. Always go on a waiting list if you are have to wait a long time to get into appointments. Time is critical for the best results for your child. When going on the appts. take notes ahead of time so you make the best use of time with your childs doctor. Also, bring someone else with you to take notes, be a second set of ears and help with your child. Try starting a timeline now with your concerns about your child, developmental concerns, speech etc. Track the good things and the bad or setbacks. You may want to invest in a small pair of headsets to help with the noise. What is normal to most of us can really be hurting the Autistic childs ears. To encourage social play with you consider putting shaving cream on a pan and just playing in it with him another thing is an indoor sandbox or use a mixer of dried beans something that he can work on his dexterity with and be creative. Alot of therapist use these items. Also, constantly encourage speech..if he wants "milk" encourage him to say "milk." Try not to speak for him or just get what he wants. After a few tries you give it to them. Again, repetition!! :-) Any books that have really great visuals are wonderful tell him to pick out his favorite car or train and then go to another room to work on reading and words. These are a few of my suggestions. I hope it helps. If you ever want to call me let me know and I can send you my phone number in a private e-mail. I remember being where you are and it was terrifying and life changing for all of us. You are not alone. Keep being strong and it's okay to have days when you're not! Let me know if you have any other questions.
    Praying for you and your sweet baby!!! Traci

     
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    Another thing to consider is taking him off milk. It probably won't solve all the issues or any but it's certainly worth the try. I suggest Silk Milk Alternative the Vanilla and Chocolate flavored. The Casein Protein in milk products have been shown to turn into a opiate like drug in some people. Causing some children/adults to have drug like symptoms. If there is a food he wants all the time or if he wants milk all the time then he may be craving it for the wrong reasons. I would say to have him allergy tested which is NOT fun when they are so young, but it will give you some great information. In the beginning you want to do the easiest things first. It's truly a process of elimination. You will have many different therapies come your way and some can be very expensive and not covered by insurance. Take advantage of any and everything insurance will cover. I would add a Pediatric Allergist to your To Do List!! Hope that helps. Traci

     
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    Thankyou for your most welcome advice. My son has around 50 words and just this week has began to string a few words together, for example 'where's Daddy', and 'wos sat noise?', used in the correct context but also randomly. However much of his speech is just jargon. The only time he talks is if he wants something, never just to chat. He does sing alot also and will approach people and keep singing eieio as a way of communicating.He did not say any words until he was 18 months old and only nouns, he also sounds like he has an accent sometimes? He does spend alot of time in his sand box, playing with mud and eating it and also puddles of water.I will try your suggestions as a way of developing this play further.I would like very much to speak with you further,you have been very helpful as I have felt quite overwhelmed and confused by it all. however I live in the uk?

     
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    Thankyou for your most welcome advice. My son has around 50 words and just this week has began to string a few words together, for example 'where's Daddy', and 'wos sat noise?', used in the correct context but also randomly. However much of his speech is just jargon. The only time he talks is if he wants something, never just to chat. He does sing alot also and will approach people and keep singing eieio as a way of communicating.He did not say any words until he was 18 months old and only nouns, he also sounds like he has an accent sometimes? He does spend alot of time in his sand box, playing with mud and eating it and also puddles of water.I will try your suggestions as a way of developing this play further.I would like very much to speak with you further,you have been very helpful as I have felt quite overwhelmed and confused by it all. however I live in the uk?

     
    Old 08-20-2011, 02:13 AM   #9
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    Hi - you have gotten a lot of good advice and I wish you well with your son and his progress. What I could also suggest is that you find out if your local school district has a language based pre-school program that your son could be eligible for very soon as he is almost 3. If your own district does not have an appropriate program, they would be obliged to find one in another nearby district in your city. This was very helpful for my son when he was your son's age.

     
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    I agree with earlier poster about getting help early. We realised something was wrong when my son was 2 and managed to get a specialised service to our house twice a week bringing books and toys and 'teaching' our son to interact with others and teaching us how to deal with his tantrums etc. We managed to avoid a special needs education and had him in mainstream with 'special needs' assistance. We were advised that he needed to learn to behave/learn/interact with ordinary peers if possible. Our son was always a difficult child, sulky, miserable, resistant to change, withdrawn and friendless. We worked hard to bring other children and their parents to us and succeeded to a degree but you can lead a horse to water..... I was advised not to expect any academic strength but he did achieve 5 GCSE A-C passes at a mainstream comprehensive which he did not really enjoy and never felt he 'fitted in'. He always had an obsession with cars, Formula 1 racing and engines and this extended into his early teens. He joined a karting team and we did that for 4-5 years before it got too expensive and time consuming and he seemed to grow out of it. However this interest was enough to get him onto a Diploma in Engineering and now at 19 he has a foundation degree place at University. He is still withdrawn and has few 'friends' but is learning to drive, enjoying playing loud rock guitar and 'surviving'. I will never know if what we did was 'enough' or 'right' and we have made wrong decisions along the way. As he was never formally diagnosed with Aspergers as the Psychologist asked me to think very carefully before labelling someone for life - we chose not to. I waited until he was 14 or so then had a chat about Aspergers which he knew about because his friend has been diagnosed. I asked him to think about whether he felt his differences could mean he has it to, and if so did he want to do something about it. He said it made no difference and he was the person he was and there was no magic wand so he didn't want to take it any further. I therefore feel that he was given a choice when the time was right but I always wonder if it was the right thing to do. I don't know what the future holds for him - he is terrified about going to Uni even though its only 20 minutes away from us on a train (we have booked him a student residence room) he has a room as its a 'sheltered' way of giving him some independence. Please cross all your fingers for him - he has many good qualities, kind, good natured and like most people just wants to be accepted for who he is and find someone to care for who cares for him.

     
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    I am in the same boat as you are, right now. I am waiting for an Autistic screening for my child. I have a 23 month old girl who shows some of the signs of autism. I also have 3 nephews ranging from the age of 4-12 that have been diagnosed as autistic. My feelings are mixed- up right now. I feel like I've lost something. I don't want my child to be in her own little world. In my eyes that would be an awfully lonely place to be. Yet I look at my nephews and my child and I swear that autistic children are the sweetest children in the world. I Know that a diagnosis of autism is not going to change my affection toward my child but is going to make me love her even more.
    I started seeing a N/P a month ago, who is registered with the ARI ( Autism Research Institute) and she told me that it is good that we are catching this early. She feels that Autism can be cured or at least the symptoms reduced. After blood and stool tests we found out that she has allergies to gluten and milk(casein) and that she is having problem absorbing her vitamins, has yeast growth, Pica, and has a zinc deficiency.
    I've got her on a gf/cf diet which is very expensive but necessary. I can already see a difference in her. At home she is calmer and is easier to redirect. :P .
    I know you don't want to hear this but your description of your son's behavior is a lot like my nephews and my daughter. But don't be discouraged. Read all you can about autism and the positive research on it. Don't focus on despair otherwise that is what you'll feel. There is hope and you're son sounds really bright. I also suggest you find a practitioner that has experience working with autistic kids, are positive and that you feel comfortable with. Good luck, and let me know how things are going.

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