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Old 10-12-2017, 10:33 AM   #31
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

It can be a bad idea to continue with chiropractic treatment if there is suspected spinal nerve involvement. Often tingling in the arm/hand is a sign that something is going on in the neck, like a bulging disc, stenosis, enlarged facet joint, that is putting pressure on a spinal nerve root. This pain and symptoms can be felt at the location where it is occurring or it can radiate anywhere along the path of the nerve.

For example, if I go in and tell my doctor my big toe is numb, he will know to think about the Lumbar 4 area ...to look for degenerative disc disease or similar at that level.

Have you had a MRI?

 
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:17 PM   #32
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

I had an MRI last month which was clear.

On advice of my GP I won't be doing anyone chiropractory. I woke up this morning feeling very stiff through my whole back & no improvement in my left arm or leg. Also have a headache. I'm going to spend today resting, basic stretches & GP for blood results. Hoping it'll ease a little by the weekend.

The GP believes acupuncture on the neck should help & along with losing weight, exercise & trying to correct my posture I will eventually recover.

Just it's a catch 22. Exercise is painful but I have to exercise to fix it. At the moment I am walking 30 minutes non stop per day & wearing a Posture-Medic back brace.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:59 AM   #33
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

Have you seen either a neurosurgeon or orthopedic spine surgeon? The MRI might show something subtle that was missed by your GP.

 
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:28 PM   #34
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The MRI & CT Scans are all interpreted by specialists before going back to my GP who then has a second look.

The curve in my spine does need work though as the overcompensation is causing the issue with my left knee & my lower back. My head is also forward on my posture adding an extra 13kgs to the weight on my neck.

My blood results show my cholesterol is high & my blood sugar is high. I'll be having a glucose test next week to check for diabetes. Hoping it's a one off though as my last blood sugar test in July was normal.

Doctor is still 'lose weight & eat healthier'. In time, with physio, it should improve future blood tests & ease pressure on my back.

I'm going to be starting slow though. I'll be casually walking 30 minutes each day with a shoulder brace & a knee brace. It should help remind me about posture.

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Old 10-14-2017, 12:27 PM   #35
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

How high is your blood pressure? And cholesterol?

I didn't realise weight was also an issue....so that puts an extra stress emotionally since you're trying to lose weight. The distress of your partner's cancer treatments take everything in another category while you are healing.

I can truly relate to injury and healing takes time. If you aren't finding the pain med works then please ask about the Elavil low low dosage.
Another option could be topical prescription dosage voltaren in a glaxal base or one that rubs fully into the skin without leaving a residue.

Please keep us updated how you are doing.

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Old 10-14-2017, 04:01 PM   #36
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My blood pressure is OK. My fasting blood sugar is at 6.5 (normal is under 5.5 mmol/L) which is pre-diabetic. So I have another advanced test this week to determine if I may be diabetic. I'm hoping this result is a one off as I was 4.5 on my last test in July. My cholesterol is 7.3 which is up from 7.2 in July (should be under 4 mmol/L).

My weight is dropping slowly. I'm down to 93kgs from 105 kgs earlier this year.

Since I got the results yesterday I am working out what my diet will be. I cut out all extra sugar yesterday & plan on eating more fibre, fish, fruit & vegetables. I'm still walking 30 minutes a day as I can't do much else due to pain. I was thinking of swimming but the local pool isn't an option as I work when they are open.

I'm dealing with the pain at the moment as I'm consciously trying to fix my posture at the same time. I'm getting aches & pains elsewhere from trying to hold my shoulders back & lift my head back. It's a distraction from my upper back which feels slightly better now I'm trying to get the posture better. I'm working on taking pressure off my lower back & holding my head back at the same time. I know this takes time to start working subconsciously but am going to persevere.

I'll check back in a few weeks when tests are complete & my partner finishes her chemoradiation. Things hopefully will be on the mend by then.

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Old 10-15-2017, 05:40 PM   #37
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

You might find it helpful to go to a bodywork practioner who specializes in structural alignment issues...are you in the U.K.? If so I'm not sure if methods have different names....but it would be something like ART, active release technique...or perhaps someone who does myofascial release therapy correctly!

If your posture has been as poor as you indicate, you probably have fascial adhesions that are holding you in misalignment. This is why one can have a correction with massage or from a chiropractor and it feels better briefly, and then pops back to where it was previously.

The fascia are currently a hot topic in medicine...at least some fields of medicine! You might find it helpful to read some of the current research on the topic.

No amount of trying to "stand up straight" is going to pull everything back into proper structural alignment...and, as you are finding out, as you try, the muscles and soft tissue that are not used to working will rebel!

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:05 PM   #38
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[QUOTE=teteri66;5470695]You might find it helpful to go to a bodywork practioner who specializes in structural alignment issues...are you in the U.K.? If so I'm not sure if methods have different names....but it would be something like ART, active release technique...or perhaps someone who does myofascial release therapy correctly!

The fascia are currently a hot topic in medicine...at least some fields of medicine! You might find it helpful to read some of the current research on the topic.

No amount of trying to "stand up straight" is going to pull everything back into proper structural alignment...and, as you are finding out, as you try, the muscles and soft tissue that are not used to working will rebel![/QUOTE]

I have used a myotherapist intermittently since my issues started & he has liaised with my physio. For the time being I just have to see my physio & GP.

My physio helps alleviate a lot of the pain but it does always come back. He is now working on my left trapezoid as it appears to be slightly smaller than the right one. He believes once I have full functionality here I'll be able to control my posture better around my scapula & it will ease the pain around my neck. From there we can work on releasing the lower back.

I know it'll be a slow process to get back to structural alignment & the physio advised a chiropractor will be more useful when I'm not in muscular pain. So it's stretches & adjustments for the time being.

I'm listening exactly to what my physio & GP tell me. I have a lot to do with stretches, exercise & diet.

 
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:51 AM   #39
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

I hope it works out for you. If not, check into the work done by John F Barnes and the derivatives.

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 05:44 PM   #40
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

Well it's time for an update.

My back feels a bit better with daily stretches & casual exercise. My left knee though is currently inflamed & sore (unsure of cause) so it's hindering my exercise efforts.

I've been diagnosed with high cholesterol & diabetes type 2 which was a bit of a shock. I now have to lose weight & change diet completely which should hopefully get it under control. I have been slowly losing weight & eating healthier but it's not enough.

My blood pressure is now back to normal as my partner has finished initial treatment so hopefully my stress levels reduce. I'm attacking this head on now with a goal of 10kg loss in 60 days.

Will update on progress in 30 days or sooner if anything happens.

 
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Old 10-25-2017, 09:50 AM   #41
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

Bittersweet, but sounds as though you are on a good start to making important health changes. Looking forward to the update!

All the best for your partner.

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Old 10-27-2017, 03:48 PM   #42
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

Hi, a stab in the dark here, but have you had your pancreas checked properly? Do you know if a clear picture was obtained as the pancreas can be notoriously difficult to see on some scans unless they're specifically looking for it.

If you don't mind sharing this info within this thread, how are your bowels? Normal toilet habits etc? Classic pancreatic pain is usually located around where the bra strap is located on women, between the shoulder blade, left shoulder pain and neck. It's usually worse when lying down and is usually alleviated when bending forward.

I'm only asking because of where the pain is located and you having been very surprised at being diagnosed with both high cholesterol and diabetes type 2.

 
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:16 PM   #43
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The back pain was non existent when I lay down & has improved with exercise.

The diabetes I guess I should have seen coming though as am overweight & quitting smoking causes insulin resistance/levels to go crazy.

I'm now just trying to lose weight but the issue with my leg keeps flaring up so that's about your be fully checked out. It's not related to the type of exercise as all I'm doing is stretching, walking & started swimming yesterday. GP has stated sciatica due to intermittent burning sensation I get through my leg & arm.

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Old 10-28-2017, 09:21 AM   #44
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Re: Muscular Upper Back Pain

If you have burning in both arm and leg, it would not be coming from a lumbar spine issue. A cervical spine issue could cause both sciatic-type pain and arm pain if the spinal cord is compressed. Lumbar issue could cause sciatic pain but not arm pain.

 
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:58 PM   #45
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I'm unable to distinguish if it's a tingling or a burning sensation as it's intermittent & all different parts of the body on both sides. GP has advised it could be a side effect of Metformin while I get used to it or diabetic neuropathy or sciatica or a combination. It's not too painful, still have full feeling in my extremities & full range of motion.

Sciatica in my left leg is a definite diagnosis from my physio & GP for some of the feelings I get.

Of course I am keeping a close eye on every sensation that I feel whether old or new.

If it is all related to posture, weight, cholesterol & sugar levels, then the quicker I lose weight & improve cardio, the better I will feel.

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