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    Old 01-14-2004, 05:58 PM   #61
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    It's been 8 weeks and I can kiss the brace goodbye and start to sit. Hooray! ! Still no signs of improvement post-IDET. The doc says that if I had no improvement by 6 months post-IDET, it ain't likely gonna happen. I start PT next week and we'll see how it goes. Looking ahead, anticipating the worst (can't help it-it's my nature), I can see myself signing on for ADR in the summer. In the meantime, I'll continue to take it slow and hope that my disc has some healing potential. I'm doing well pain-wise on the duragesic patch. Thank God for that. The pain relief is really helping me to enjoy life a whole lot more.

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    Old 01-14-2004, 09:11 PM   #62
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    T'nut--Good to hear the latest report--sayonara, brace; hello, sitting; welcome, less pain.

    I can also relate to "anticipating the worst." I know a lot of folks on these threads emphasize the role of "positive thinking" in healing. I understand the concept, but I think it may be overrated, or at least overgeneralized. For some of us, _lowering_ expectations, and then being pleasantly surprised by whatever surpasses them, ends up making more psychophysical sense than setting oneself up for......potentially, yet more disappointment. So I say that as a psychologist and a fellow glass-half-fuller--no doubt, that makes it a professional and indisputable!

    Life for me has become an endless round of additional opinions and checking out several other organ systems at the same time--that between my teaching. What a drag! Wish I was a cloud. At the same time, I'm realizing how amazing it is to be able to lie down, be in touch with the world, with cell phones, laptops, that stand you originally suggested, etc.. I don't know how much spine surgery has progressed. But the aids to functioning in the world in limited shape certainly have.

    In any event, my hope is to get through the semester. If no substantial progress by April, I think it's lami-lama-dingdong time for me.

    Power to Lu-Jos,

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    Hi tennisnut! I've never talked to you before, but I've worried a lot about you! Will you please tell us more about this duragesic patch? Is it like a lidoderm patch, or more powerful? Thanks, and good luck!

     
    Old 01-15-2004, 12:17 PM   #64
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    Standingman - I have to chuckle at the irony of it all. I was so excited to get rid of the brace and enjoy some freedom of movement. Thought I'd start off gently with the sitting. Went down the hill to enjoy a cup of coffee at the local cafe and read the paper - a routine I've missed in the last several months. I had minimal expectations - thought I'd sit for about 15 minutes at the most and enjoy the short period of normal activity. I figured that with all the heavy duty drugs on board, I could tolerate that. Well, turns out, no way Jose. I was uncomfortable from the get-go and had to abandon my post after 10 minutes. Went home to ice and am horizontal once again. I just don't think that the disc is in any kind of recovery mode. Sometimes, you just know these things.

    People have asked me if I am doing any visualization exercises to facilitate healing. I've tried a bit here and there, but can't seem to connect with it. I do, however, think kind thoughts towards my body as much as possible. My poor disc is trying its best against all the odds. I'm doing all that I can to be patient, and let nature take its course, but that course I'm afraid had hit a dead end. I'm not so much depressed about this as resigned.

    I didn't know that you were so close to making the decision about surgery. Have you been getting worse? I thought that you were pretty much holding steady and had decided to modify your life and avoid the knife. But perhaps you had decided to wait it out for a period of time, and that time is drawing near. I hope your body cooperates and allows you continue teaching. It seems abundantly clear how dearly you love your work. I also want to acknowledge your other health concerns and to let you know that I think you are coping amazingly well with all that must be on your plate. You've been a terrific sympathetic ear for me and know just when to lighten the mood. Just wanted to let you know that I am here for you as well, my Lu-Jo cyberbud.

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    [QUOTE=Standingman1]T'nut--Good to hear the latest report--sayonara, brace; hello, sitting; welcome, less pain.

    I can also relate to "anticipating the worst." I know a lot of folks on these threads emphasize the role of "positive thinking" in healing. I understand the concept, but I think it may be overrated, or at least overgeneralized. For some of us, _lowering_ expectations, and then being pleasantly surprised by whatever surpasses them, ends up making more psychophysical sense than setting oneself up for......potentially, yet more disappointment. So I say that as a psychologist and a fellow glass-half-fuller--no doubt, that makes it a professional and indisputable!

    Life for me has become an endless round of additional opinions and checking out several other organ systems at the same time--that between my teaching. What a drag! Wish I was a cloud. At the same time, I'm realizing how amazing it is to be able to lie down, be in touch with the world, with cell phones, laptops, that stand you originally suggested, etc.. I don't know how much spine surgery has progressed. But the aids to functioning in the world in limited shape certainly have.

    In any event, my hope is to get through the semester. If no substantial progress by April, I think it's lami-lama-dingdong time for me.

    Power to Lu-Jos,

    Standingman[/QUOTE]

     
    Old 01-15-2004, 12:28 PM   #65
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    Hey-another Amy (that's my first name too)! I've been wondering who's been following this thread-over 1,000 views but only a few participants. I'm glad you piped up! I had never heard of the lidoderm patch so I looked it up. The active ingredient is lidocaine, which relieves pain locally (where the patch is attached). This seems to me to be a much less "intense" pain medication than my duragesic patch. The active ingredient in the duragesic patch is fentanyl, which is a strong opiate. The drug is released slowly into my system so that a constant level of pain relief is maintained. This is a systemic analgesic whereas the lidoderm is a local analgesic.

    Like many people on the board, I started out using the short acting narcotics (e.g., vidocin), which stopped working after a while. The docs at the pain clinic said that these short-acting drugs are terrible for chronic pain for a number of reasons. So it is good that I am now on the most effective medicine for my problem.

    Anyway, I'm glad to hear from you and hope to again.

    -Tennisnut

    [QUOTE=Amy R.]Hi tennisnut! I've never talked to you before, but I've worried a lot about you! Will you please tell us more about this duragesic patch? Is it like a lidoderm patch, or more powerful? Thanks, and good luck![/QUOTE]

     
    Old 01-15-2004, 08:00 PM   #66
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    T'nut--First, thank you for your very kind thoughts, which meant a lot to me. I want to say that there is nothing "dire" with which I'm dealing--at least not so far--and I hope it stays that way!!! I do have a chronic illness which I've been managing (successfully!) for many years. Although it's something I have to stay on top of, this back stuff we share has been more preoccupying--and, unfortunately, disabling.

    Sorry your cafe excursion did not work out as you hoped--as as you more than deserve!!! Re" visualizing, I also tried it for a while. Got a bunch of tapes, and, in fact, I'm pretty good at putting myself in a "deep meditative state" so it's definitely relaxing. Got in there with the bright light, had the discos dancing (sounds like a Beegees track), got everything lined up in Spineland, got the bulges to suck in their guts and get out of the way. And, indeed, I really do believe we can learn to control some of those small muscles (multifidi, etc.) through biofeedback type approaches. But "self-directed-psychosurgery" was a little beyond my grasp..........

    Re: the future, you are right that, overall, I've been flatlining for about a year--or on a mild roller coaster with better and worse periods. Overall tendency may be slightly downhill, but not definitive. Maybe more of a levelling out than anything else. So it will probably be that familiar decison of living "like this" or rolling dice. It's funny. When I talk to people, I tend to suggest that, by spring, I'll probably roll dice if no improvement. Yet every time I get within a few yards of a neurosurgeon, the little voice says (as yours said), "No way, Jose!" I'm not scared of surgery in general--I've had a few in my life. I guess I'm just not "convinced" about this one; so what i talk/write and what I may really do are still somewhat separate things.

    I really appreciate this board. I'm on another one related to my chronic condition, and it is nowhere near as smart, pleasant, or supportive. Interestingly, it is moderated by someone who, quite accurately, refers to herself as a "mother hen." She plays the role of a necessary someone to protect her little chicks from the dangers of wayward posts. But it's really all about control; indeed, it's really all about her. Glad to enjoy the open air here!!

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    Old 01-17-2004, 10:30 PM   #67
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    T'nut and all--On the visualization quesion, I thought I'd mention one CD I've found really useful. It's something called "Musical Acupuncture" by Janalea Hoffman. Hoaky as it may sound (and it does to me!), it is the one such thing that predictably provokes the "relaxation response" for me. I'm wondering how useful it may also be for pain reduction, which has not been my own primary purpose, but I think it should help as much as any such thing.

    Had an almost bizarre experience with a new neurosurgical consult I had yesterday (described a bit on the lami thread). Will say more when I am able to "assimilate" it, but throws everything in the air for a while.

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    Old 01-19-2004, 08:39 PM   #68
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    Hello all,
    I had IDET on 12/10/03 & doctor didn't tell me anything except no bending to lift for 3 weeks. Then he left for vacation. I had bad left leg pain & throbbing especially at night sleeping & he had no one on call & was told not to worry. When I left sameday surgery I had weakness in left leg & couldn't lift my front of my foot when I walk & still walk flat. I told him when he got back & wasn't concerned but wants an EMG. Now after reading all these posts I am freaking out!! He didn't tell me anything that all you had been told about sitting etc. What should I or can I do now?
    HELP!!

     
    Old 01-19-2004, 09:55 PM   #69
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    br1--I've got no direct experience with IDET (T'nut will be more informative), but an EMG sounds like a reasonable idea, and possibly also a new MRI. Did you have both of these before the procedure? And did you have the foot problem prior to the IDET?

    The key issue whether there is any evidence of a nerve problem that is different and/or exacerbated from what you had before. It's also still relatively early in the game. So.....easy to say I know......try to stay cool, not freak out, but take care of business. The latter _may_ come to include getting another opinion at some point, but, at this point, I think I'd give the doc who knows my situation a chance to clarify things. Maybe the next step is to call his office and say you would like an appointment with him asap for consultation. Do you have a follow-up scheduled soon?

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    Old 01-20-2004, 10:32 AM   #70
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    Hi br1, tennisnut here. Boy, sure am sorry to here about your leg and foot problems post-IDET. I concur with Standingman's advice re. getting the EMG as soon as possible. It's my understanding that IDET shouldn't really affect the nerves if done properly. Perhaps as happens sometimes in epidural injections, the needle can nick a nerve going in. I understand that the nerve symptoms in these cases are almost always temporary.

    I have some questions about your IDET procedure itself. What was your diagnosis and symptoms before you had it? What kind of doctor did the procedure (e.g., anesthesiologist? physiatrist)? Was the procedure done under fluroscopy (x-ray)? How alert were you during it? Did you notice that anything went wrong during the procedure? A lot of questions, I know.

    A problem occured during my procedure and it may be the reason why I still have a fair amount of pain. The catheter got "hung up" on a tear and the doctor kept trying to work the catheter through the area (an excruciatingly painful experience) but finally had to take it out and go in again. I can just imagine how mad that part of my disc must still be.

    Regarding your aftercare instructions, it does sound that these were extremely liberal given the standard. Because of this, I would be seeking out other doctors for second opinions and to talk to them about how you should handle your rehab given your current symptoms and that you didn't complete the standard post-IDET protocol. Believe me, though, you are not the only one. I have read a number of stories on these boards about post-IDET patients returning to work full-tims at a desk job immediately after their procedure. How well they do is hard to say.

    You also need to keep in mind that you have been through a major invasive procedure and that your body will take time to adjust. An increase in pain is expected for a few weeks after IDET, though your particular symptoms are worrisome. At this point, I don't think you can do anything about the fact that you were sitting during your recovery. Maybe you were laying down a fair amount given how much discomfort you were in. Right now, you need to try not to panic (easier said than done!), and see if this isn't a temporary problem.

    Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

    tennisnut

    [QUOTE=br1]Hello all,
    I had IDET on 12/10/03 & doctor didn't tell me anything except no bending to lift for 3 weeks. Then he left for vacation. I had bad left leg pain & throbbing especially at night sleeping & he had no one on call & was told not to worry. When I left sameday surgery I had weakness in left leg & couldn't lift my front of my foot when I walk & still walk flat. I told him when he got back & wasn't concerned but wants an EMG. Now after reading all these posts I am freaking out!! He didn't tell me anything that all you had been told about sitting etc. What should I or can I do now?
    HELP!![/QUOTE]

     
    Old 01-20-2004, 12:12 PM   #71
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    Hi tennisnut,

    Thanks for reply. I wad a car accident in 1993 that herniated L5-s1 and was treated by orthopedist & neurologist conservatively. No surgery due to bad insurance & lawyer.
    Had P.T. pain meds etc and in 1997 was rear ended & the disk had shown a radial tear in L5-S1 but they didn't feel surgery would be more than 50/50 improvement and sent me back for pain management. Then I found a pain management specialist referred by main doctor and was treating with trigger point inj. & meds. after a few years he did a discogram on 12/10/04 and previously mentioned IDET as a new less invasive proceedure that will fix a tear in the disk if it is found. Well, he did the discogram & found L5-S1 leaking under flouroscope and sedation. When he breifly woke me to see if pain was the same I felt the pressure & didn't feel the pain in the left leg as I did before. Then I heard him say lets do the thermal & I was asleep before I could ask anything. When I woke up in recovery, I was in pain from injection site & given morphine iv. Before I was sent home he saw me for 5 min & told me the disk was leaking & had several fissures & he did the thermal 2 times
    as precaution. Then just told me to no bending or lifting for 3 to 4 weeks & ok to drive in 4 days and also wear a brace. That was it & he left for vacation. I had leg pain after proceedure with weakness & couldn't raise the front part of my left foot to raise my toes, it seems very weak. Bet after a few days & had bad throbbing pain in my Butt to my foot in the muscles of my left leg. I couldn't get anyone to help at the hospital because he was the Dr. & his case. I did rest alot but I live alone & had to do some things to live. So I don't know what I did that might have hurt this proceedure. But he didn't seem concerned when he got back & just ordered a EMG this week.
    That's about it?
    Any advice?






























    [QUOTE=tennisnut]Hi br1, tennisnut here. Boy, sure am sorry to here about your leg and foot problems post-IDET. I concur with Standingman's advice re. getting the EMG as soon as possible. It's my understanding that IDET shouldn't really affect the nerves if done properly. Perhaps as happens sometimes in epidural injections, the needle can nick a nerve going in. I understand that the nerve symptoms in these cases are almost always temporary.

    I have some questions about your IDET procedure itself. What was your diagnosis and symptoms before you had it? What kind of doctor did the procedure (e.g., anesthesiologist? physiatrist)? Was the procedure done under fluroscopy (x-ray)? How alert were you during it? Did you notice that anything went wrong during the procedure? A lot of questions, I know.

    A problem occured during my procedure and it may be the reason why I still have a fair amount of pain. The catheter got "hung up" on a tear and the doctor kept trying to work the catheter through the area (an excruciatingly painful experience) but finally had to take it out and go in again. I can just imagine how mad that part of my disc must still be.

    Regarding your aftercare instructions, it does sound that these were extremely liberal given the standard. Because of this, I would be seeking out other doctors for second opinions and to talk to them about how you should handle your rehab given your current symptoms and that you didn't complete the standard post-IDET protocol. Believe me, though, you are not the only one. I have read a number of stories on these boards about post-IDET patients returning to work full-tims at a desk job immediately after their procedure. How well they do is hard to say.

    You also need to keep in mind that you have been through a major invasive procedure and that your body will take time to adjust. An increase in pain is expected for a few weeks after IDET, though your particular symptoms are worrisome. At this point, I don't think you can do anything about the fact that you were sitting during your recovery. Maybe you were laying down a fair amount given how much discomfort you were in. Right now, you need to try not to panic (easier said than done!), and see if this isn't a temporary problem.

    Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

    tennisnut[/QUOTE]

     
    Old 01-20-2004, 05:29 PM   #72
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    Hello T'nut,
    Were you able to get the reply #71 I sent?
    I am new to these post boards & not sure if I sent it right. Please let me know & It is very much appreciated to have someone out there that understands &I can relate my concerns to & I would like to be there for all I can help also.
    Thanks!
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    Old 01-20-2004, 08:27 PM   #73
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    Hi br1,

    Thanks for replying with all the details. We have similar stories although my herniation was not caused by trauma but by the degeneration of my disc. Like you, I have a radial annulus tear at L5-S1 with disc material leaking out. This is what they call a grade V annulus tear, unfortunately the most severe and recalcitrant type of herniation. I was suprised that your doctor told you that the IDET would fix your tear. There is no evidence that IDET can, in fact, seal a grade V tear. I knew this going in, however, and still decided to have the procedure done as it seemed my best option. I was also told by a neurosurgeon that a microdiscectomy would only give me a 50-50 chance at improvement. He actually refused to do surgery with those odds. The odds weren't any better with the IDET (due to my advanced degeneration) but at least it seemed less risky.

    Can I ask a few more questions about your pain mgmt doctor? What is his specialty? Pain management is a type of expertise but the doctor must have specialized in a specific area of medicine. I'm guessing anesthesiology but maybe not. Do you know what kind of reputation he has regionally and nationally? Two things concern me about your report of the IDET: 1) you were asleep for much of it, esp. when they heated the disc. My understanding is that they want the patient pretty alert to be able to tell them if they are feeling unusual pain or burning; and 2) your comment that the doctor wanted to do the heating "twice" to "make sure" that the tear was sealed. I am definitely not an expert, but I've never heard of such a thing. You can certainly heat someone too much and hurt them.

    It sounds like the doctor did the discogram first and then followed up with the IDET right after. But the discogram did not reproduce your leg pain, is that right? Again, I don't know about this, but it sounds odd to me. How bad was your leg pain in relation to your back pain? Typically, IDET is not very helpful for leg pain. It could also be that your leg pain is not, in fact, caused by this disc. There are a lot of possibilities.

    It sounds like you did have some of the post-IDET restrictions and certainly wearing the brace was a good thing. Did you ever notice that your pain increased after twisting or sitting during the post-IDET recovery? If not, then I would be less worried that you may have "undone" the IDET. Really, none of us will know the answer to that even if that's the case. You do need answers to the questions as to what is causing your muscle/nerve weakness. I still think a second opinion is in order given the concern that I have about what the doctor was up to with "heating you twice." This could be well within the realm of acceptable practice, so don't freak out. It's just really good to know. And also I think it would make you feel better to get confirmation that your doctor is considered to be very competent by his peers or not.

    My advice in a nutshell:

    1. Try to stay calm if possible. I've done my share of freaking out and it only makes you feel worse and problem solve less effectively. Get the diagnostic test that is being recommended.
    2. Ask the doctor who did the discogram/IDET for the full, detailed report that he dictated about this procedure. The hospital probably has this report. You can get it from them. It is your medical record and your right to have.
    3. Start doing some research to find a well-regarded spine specialist experienced with IDET.
    4. Take your report to this doctor and tell him everything.
    5. Don't be shy to ask for more pain meds if you need them.

    Keep writing to us!

    T'nut

    [QUOTE=br1]Hi tennisnut,

    Thanks for reply. I wad a car accident in 1993 that herniated L5-s1 and was treated by orthopedist & neurologist conservatively. No surgery due to bad insurance & lawyer.
    Had P.T. pain meds etc and in 1997 was rear ended & the disk had shown a radial tear in L5-S1 but they didn't feel surgery would be more than 50/50 improvement and sent me back for pain management. Then I found a pain management specialist referred by main doctor and was treating with trigger point inj. & meds. after a few years he did a discogram on 12/10/04 and previously mentioned IDET as a new less invasive proceedure that will fix a tear in the disk if it is found. Well, he did the discogram & found L5-S1 leaking under flouroscope and sedation. When he breifly woke me to see if pain was the same I felt the pressure & didn't feel the pain in the left leg as I did before. Then I heard him say lets do the thermal & I was asleep before I could ask anything. When I woke up in recovery, I was in pain from injection site & given morphine iv. Before I was sent home he saw me for 5 min & told me the disk was leaking & had several fissures & he did the thermal 2 times
    as precaution. Then just told me to no bending or lifting for 3 to 4 weeks & ok to drive in 4 days and also wear a brace. That was it & he left for vacation. I had leg pain after proceedure with weakness & couldn't raise the front part of my left foot to raise my toes, it seems very weak. Bet after a few days & had bad throbbing pain in my Butt to my foot in the muscles of my left leg. I couldn't get anyone to help at the hospital because he was the Dr. & his case. I did rest alot but I live alone & had to do some things to live. So I don't know what I did that might have hurt this proceedure. But he didn't seem concerned when he got back & just ordered a EMG this week.
    That's about it?
    Any advice?[/QUOTE]

     
    Old 01-21-2004, 10:20 AM   #74
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    Hi T'nut,

    Getting more freaked out, I will try to answere your questions.
    The doctor is Director of Acute & Chronis pain management at St. Michaels Hospital in NJ. is Diplomate of American board of Anestheiology, Diplomate of Speciality of Pain management. Spine pain specialist.
    He is pretty well known been on news for treatment and been referred by many patients I spoke too and other doctors.
    The doctor did the discogram & IDETThe leg pain was like sciatic pain that started at low back & went down left leg & sometimes the leg would go out. It the pain after IDET when sitting or twisting didn't seem to hurt mush more it was more when a few days past that throbbing in left leg like tendons pulling & when i would try to streighten it out it would pull & throb like after long workout.The back pain seemed worse but would be connected at times when it would hit something like a nerve & the sharp thin shooting pain down leg. But would start in back by waist line.I have read that the IDET would be repeated 2times at a sessionWeb site: [url]www.ipcaz.org/pages/idet.html[/url] if that helps?
    Please let me know what you think. I will log on tonight EST time zone.
    Look forward to your reply, and THANKS!!!

     
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    Mokita-

    What happened to your message? I meant to reply today, but then couldn't find it. Are you feeling better? Seems like 11 days is a VERY short time to start worrying about an increase in pain. What did your doctor tell you in terms of what to expect re. your recovery? When are you "supposed" to feel improved if the procedure worked?

    I was doing well yesterday, feeling upbeat. Did some pelvic tilts (just about 10) and took a good walk. My back started aching at night and couldn't sleep. I'm almost sure that it was the pelvic tilts that did it. If I cannot do the most gentle stabilzation exercises, this is not looking good. Will wait for the flare-up to subside and will try again. Patience, patience....

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