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    Old 04-14-2004, 11:28 AM   #1
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    Siatic Pain is killn me. Can you Help?

    Just found this board. I had a disc that herniated some time ago but finally got to the point of causing me to get an MRI and start PT. This was about a year ago. I started having Siatic problems over the past 2 months. My left Butt and Leg and foot. It is mainly when I am seated. I dont know what to do. I made an appointment for a surgeon to see what he says and I am back in PT. I am taking 800MG IB for Inflamation. Nothing seems to be working. If anyone has any of the same history or advice..PLease Please suggest something. Any help would be great. I cannot sit at times for more the 5- 10 minutes...

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    Old 04-14-2004, 11:33 AM   #2
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    Re: Siatic Pain is killn me. Can you Help?

    [QUOTE=bustout123]Just found this board. I had a disc that herniated some time ago but finally got to the point of causing me to get an MRI and start PT. This was about a year ago. I started having Siatic problems over the past 2 months. My left Butt and Leg and foot. It is mainly when I am seated. I dont know what to do. I made an appointment for a surgeon to see what he says and I am back in PT. I am taking 800MG IB for Inflamation. Nothing seems to be working. If anyone has any of the same history or advice..PLease Please suggest something. Any help would be great. I cannot sit at times for more the 5- 10 minutes...

    Thanks![/QUOTE]


    I think that you will find hundreds of people on these boards who suffer from lower back problems. It is common. If your MRI was normal then PT is the way to start. Surgery is not a good option as that leads to other problems.

    Ask for Neurontin and see if that helps. It is not a narcotic. Works for a lot of people. PT can take down the inflammation and walking in great also.

     
    Old 04-14-2004, 11:37 AM   #3
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    My MRI did show L5 herniated about a year ago. However I am pretty sure I may need another one. I still work out low impact but the pain from my butt is just making life very difficult. What could this be. I think a nerve but what is the best route to get the righ diagnosis? Its all on the left side, Pain down my leg tingle in my foot... Total Nightmare....

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    Old 04-14-2004, 11:40 AM   #4
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    [QUOTE=bustout123]My MRI did show L5 herniated about a year ago. However I am pretty sure I may need another one. I still work out low impact but the pain from my butt is just making life very difficult. What could this be. I think a nerve but what is the best route to get the righ diagnosis? Its all on the left side, Pain down my leg tingle in my foot... Total Nightmare....[/QUOTE]


    I would get a second MRI and an EMG

     
    Old 04-14-2004, 12:59 PM   #5
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    [COLOR=DarkOliveGreen][FONT=Garamond]I agree that a new MRI is in order. You need to make an appointment with a spine specialist, get an MRI and then evaluate your choices.

    There may be options other than surgery; but be prepared to hear it offered. Always get a 2nd opinion when surgery is being considered. Once you get the diagnosis, you can start learning about your condition by reading the information on some good websites.

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    Old 04-14-2004, 02:17 PM   #6
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    Hi. I also had intense sciatica in my left butt, leg and foot which was constant. You're first step is to see a doctor obviously. They'll send you for an MRI which will show whether you have herniation or not. If the disc material is pressing on the nerve then that may be the source of your pain. Mine is a HUGE 15mm herniation of the L5/S1 disc which was absolutely crushing the nerve root. Also have bulging at L4/L5 but that isnt a problem. They claim 90% of herniated discs will in effect cure themselves. After trying Oxycontin, Celebrex, flexeral, morphine sulphate etc. I had the epidural injections. They did not help me whatsoever and actually made the pain worse. Some non invasive methods are out there but most are not FDA approved and there have not been clinical studies completed to show long term effects etc. These procedures include Nucleoplasty, IDET and I believe there may be a couple of others. Surgery is a last resort to cure the pain. It seems like a lot of people have the fusion surgery but you may consider a microdiscectomy before that. Once you have a fusion there is no turning back. Microdiscectomy is only about a 1 1/2" cut in the midline of your back. They'll remove a piece of your vertebrae to access the nerve. They then remove the membrane over the nerve and scrape out the disc material which is pressing on the nerve. The surgeon will also enter the disc itself and remove any loose material inside in hopes of preventing reherniation. Problems with this surgery are the risks involved during surgery as well as scar tissue building up and then it presses the nerve and we are back to square one. I had the microdiscectomy back in January of this year. It has helped with the pain to some degree but now Im experiencing what they call foot drop in the other leg. I cant raise the front of my foot off the floor. This causes the foot to drag when walking and in many cases this becomes quite painful itself. You have a lot to consider and its a long road. Just remember you arent alone as others have been through the same thing. Some people may disregard your pain as you are a woosie or whatever but believe me the pain I had in my leg woulda dropped Superman to his knees. I wish you the best and anything I can do to help, just ask.
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    Old 04-14-2004, 07:17 PM   #7
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    for the record, if you do reach the last resort of surgery, you should know that success stories exist. kevin describes very well the exact surgery i had six weeks ago -- a laminotomy/microdiscectomy. (i was at the very end of my rope with sciatic pain.) someone i trust completely referred me to an excellent neurosurgeon, and he ended up performing the surgery. i had instant relief of the sciatic pain, with some lower back pain remaining, but that is gradually disappearing. i take two 20-minute walks a day and start p.t. tomorrow, to strengthen my back and learn how to protect it. i went home from the hospital the day after surgery, in far better shape than previously, and took it easy, resting and walking, and doing limited sitting. gradually i'm returning to my former level of activity, and all is well so far. any surgery is scary, no question about it, but this is one i would not hesitate to have again should that hellish agony ever return due to another ruptured disc. good luck! oh, and yes, i agree with the other posters that a new MRI is in order.
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    Old 04-15-2004, 01:52 AM   #8
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    [QUOTE=bustout123]Just found this board. I had a disc that herniated some time ago but finally got to the point of causing me to get an MRI and start PT. This was about a year ago. I started having Siatic problems over the past 2 months. My left Butt and Leg and foot. It is mainly when I am seated. I dont know what to do. I made an appointment for a surgeon to see what he says and I am back in PT. I am taking 800MG IB for Inflamation. Nothing seems to be working. If anyone has any of the same history or advice..PLease Please suggest something. Any help would be great. I cannot sit at times for more the 5- 10 minutes...

    Thanks![/QUOTE]
    Dear Bustout:

    I too am new here. I am newly diagnosied and am due to have a CT scan on May 19th. The neurologist tells me I do not have much nerve response in either of my legs in any of the nerves. This info comes from the NCS and the EMG that he did. At this point I am only having pain in my Right foot but what pain it is! It is really painful! I'd rate it as an 8-9 on a scale of 10. the foot feels swollen and feels like it's stuffed with cotton. It hurts so much to walk on it. At the same time I am also having pain in both of my hips, in the back of my hips, in the buttocks. The neurologist says he thinks I have lumbar stenosis. He thinks the pain in the buttocks and in the foot are from the back and he called this referred pain. It is caused by my back pinching or traping the nerve and the trouble is showing up somewhere else, on down the line, so to speak. Does this sound like what is going on with you?

    I understand what you mean about how much the pain in you buttock hurts. I can hardly sleep for the pain. Walking hurts my foot and laying still hurt my hips. Sometimes i just want to cry!

    On top of all of this, I was classified disabled 2 years ago and given a service connected disability pension from work due to nerve entrapment in both of my elbows. I have had 3 elbow surgeries to release and move the ulnar nerve there. Now the wrists on both sides are doing similar things and I am wearing splints. I have been hoping to avoid having the carpal tunnel surgeries but it doesn't look like that's going to be possible. It feels like I am falling apart! I have been sent to a pain management doc and am on a lot of pain meds. They help somewhat with the pain in the upper body but they do not help with my foot or hips. I never thought i'd be retired and disabled at 44, that is for sure!

    write and let me know if what it said about the "referred pain" makes sense in your situation.

    wishing you a better day tomorrow,
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    Old 04-15-2004, 08:07 AM   #9
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    Bustout,

    You can have a myleogram done, it's a dye injected into spinal canal and they tip you up and down to let it run up and down your spine, it goes out the nerve roots, and it will show if their blocked and how bad. My husbands had two, he said they we're too bad, they do all the numbing and light sedation. He has the same exact problems. It's his right leg, he can't walk to the mail box and back now without having to sit down. He's already had a laminectomy (sp?) if you haven't had anything done that maybe an option, they go in and like ream out the areas where the nerves come out from your spine out into the parts of your body. His leg turns white and gets numb, burns, all that. He even has foot drop that comes and goes, walking was his worst problem or standing, now it's gotten to sitting at night on the couch all the "color shows" start. He's up and down all night long. He sees a neurosurgeon, they are concerned with nerve protection, altho others prefer ortho docs, it's all up to preference. We have to wait for workers comp at "approve" his surgey while he waits and gets worse each day....

     
    Old 04-15-2004, 09:28 PM   #10
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    I had a ruptured Disc L5 S1. I just recently had a fusion in May 2003. I had really bad shooting pains down into my left leg all the way down to my foot and sometimes on the right side down to my knee. When I had an MRI it didn't show anything but a bulging disc. My doctor had a discogram run on my back and it showed more than the MRI - That is how I found out I had to have a fusion. I don't know if this would be an option. But it might be worth checking into. As for helping the pain for now, all I can really think of to tell you is put a pillow under your right side between your underarm and hip and lay down. This could relieve some of the stress on the nerve. Changing positions a lot seemed to help me too. I also had trouble sleeping because I sleep on my stomach, if this is a problem for you as well, all I could think of would be pain killers or muscle relaxers. Hope you do better soon. Keep you head up!

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    Old 04-16-2004, 12:44 AM   #11
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    Peggy, when judging pain, I went to the site that Betty posted on [B]Central [/B] pain and what I thought was a ten is really a two. It is all in perspective, I guess. I think that is what the doctors are looking at. This is why they think that we overproject our pain.

    As for sleeping with sciatic pain, I have a special pillow that I put between my knees and sleep on my side. Sleeping on your back is bad for your back and sleeping on your tummy is worse as it is not a natural postion for your back.

     
    Old 04-16-2004, 12:57 AM   #12
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    I had a herniated disc higher up in my back & therapy took care of it, but even before that I had the sciatica problems. I have used many of the exercises from therapy to relieve the pain from sciatica. When I was in 24/7 pain & you all know what that is like, I talked to many people on the internet on many back boards & they all warned to try everything before surgery. I was glad I had the internet to research it all. The herniated one gets irritated if I overdo & lift or bend too much in the yard & the sciatica too. Today I worked in the yard all day & my sciatica is killing me to the knee. I have to get down on the floor & do my exercises & by tomorrow it will feel fine again. Ask your PT specifically for exercises to relieve the pain from sciatica. My therapy was called McKenzie therapy. It worked wonders for me & I'm so glad that the internet provided me the means to research all of the options.

     
    Old 04-16-2004, 09:12 AM   #13
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    [QUOTE=moonlight]Peggy, when judging pain, I went to the site that Betty posted on [B]Central [/B] pain and what I thought was a ten is really a two. It is all in perspective, I guess. I think that is what the doctors are looking at. This is why they think that we overproject our pain.

    Where is this site, Central Pain? I know that pain is very subjective, and that what I perceive to be a 7 or 8 might be much less to someone else, but I'm curious about this. When I have what I call a 7 or 8, I can no longer be on my feet, and I must sit in the recliner with my leg up and on a pillow . . . and it still hurts like ---- . I haven't dubbed any of my pain a 10 because that's supposed to be unbearable, and I've born it. LOL However, sometimes when the pain is so bad that all I can think of is the pain and wanting to be rid of it, then I call that a 9 or 9 1/2. I haven't had that too often. Does this make sense to anybody, or how do you guys gauge your pain?

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    Old 04-16-2004, 01:08 PM   #14
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    I have this same pain. Mine started a year ago and started in the back of both calves and ran to the bottom of both feet. So painful, I could barely walk. The Dr could find nothing wrong but sent me for a test to see if I had peripheral vascular disease, where the arteries are clogged. That test came back fine so he sent me for lots of blood work as I have some autoimmune diseases and my family is rife with them ,to see if I had some new exotic disease starting up . Nope, not that either. He asked if my back hurt and I said no , so he decided it was not pain radiating from my back. I told him I was going to try a massage therapist and he agreed. I went once a week , for 45 minutes for 4 weeks. While it felt good , it did nothing for the pain. But at the end of the 4 weeks I noticed I had back pain , low back pain in those little hollows in the pelvis. I went back to the Dr and he said that the massage, the pushing and pulling of the muscles of the legs and feet must have brought out the back pain and sent me for a CT scan. At last I got a diagnosis. I have spinal stenosis, with a bulging disk between L4 and L5 and psuedoclaudication. I have the symptoms of claudication but it is false claudication , not caused by clogged arteries but by presure on the nerves from the spinal canal narrowing. My pain is constant , hurts sitting, standing or walking. It is better when I lie down but then much worse upon arising. Mine was a strange case as in it started with my calves and feet and not my back. He suggests trying chiropractic , then if that does not work , a short course of prednisone , then epidural injections and as last resort surgery. I was going to try the chiropractor in early January but was struck with an esophageal disorder which has taken up all my time and money and still is . If ever it is straightend out I will try to do something for this spinal stenosis and psuedoclaudication. That might be what you have too . You all have my sympathy as it hurts 24/7. Lia

     
    Old 04-17-2004, 01:42 AM   #15
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    [QUOTE=Lia813]I have this same pain. Mine started a year ago and started in the back of both calves and ran to the bottom of both feet. So painful, I could barely walk. The Dr could find nothing wrong but sent me for a test to see if I had peripheral vascular disease, where the arteries are clogged. That test came back fine so he sent me for lots of blood work as I have some autoimmune diseases and my family is rife with them ,to see if I had some new exotic disease starting up . Nope, not that either. He asked if my back hurt and I said no , so he decided it was not pain radiating from my back. I told him I was going to try a massage therapist and he agreed. I went once a week , for 45 minutes for 4 weeks. While it felt good , it did nothing for the pain. But at the end of the 4 weeks I noticed I had back pain , low back pain in those little hollows in the pelvis. I went back to the Dr and he said that the massage, the pushing and pulling of the muscles of the legs and feet must have brought out the back pain and sent me for a CT scan. At last I got a diagnosis. I have spinal stenosis, with a bulging disk between L4 and L5 and psuedoclaudication. I have the symptoms of claudication but it is false claudication , not caused by clogged arteries but by presure on the nerves from the spinal canal narrowing. My pain is constant , hurts sitting, standing or walking. It is better when I lie down but then much worse upon arising. Mine was a strange case as in it started with my calves and feet and not my back. He suggests trying chiropractic , then if that does not work , a short course of prednisone , then epidural injections and as last resort surgery. I was going to try the chiropractor in early January but was struck with an esophageal disorder which has taken up all my time and money and still is . If ever it is straightend out I will try to do something for this spinal stenosis and psuedoclaudication. That might be what you have too . You all have my sympathy as it hurts 24/7. Lia[/QUOTE]

    I tried chiropractor, the injections, the pain meds, the inflamation meds. Nothing worked, I was on so many pain pills & it still hurt, I went nite after nite without sleeping. Finally I got into PT and that is what helped the most. I was totally pain free after 3 months of therapy. I figured I had nothing to lose, if that failed, surgery was still an option, but at least I wanted to try everything else first. My chiro actually told me that she didnt' want to touch me that she figured it was herniated & that she could not do anything for me. I do get it sore if I overdo, Sunday I picked up my twin grandkids & I know I should not, they are heavy, not lite weights & I got it all out of whack again. Now it will take me about 3 to 5 days of PT exercise here at home to fix it again. The exercises they teach you, you can always go back to & rely on when you get it sore again from overdoing. I wish you luck, I know the pain!!

     
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