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    Old 07-07-2004, 02:13 AM   #1
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    can anyone please help me.
    im not sure were to go next or what to do,
    i live in england first of all.
    my story is long so i hope no one gets bored.
    about six months ago i started getting this pain in my upper right side just under my rib cage. it was really bad and my doctor thought it was my gall bladder.he sent me to the hospital for some blood test and ordered a ultra sound. and in the mean time the pain has also started on my left side in the same area. well in about march i finally got my ultra sound and it showed nothing.
    so he sent me to a gasterologist because he cant order a ct scan or any other test.
    so i finally got into the gasterologist in end of march and i seeen one of the med students there first. she took down my history and what was wrong. then went out and talked to him. he came and and told me he didnt thik it was my gall bladder at all because the blood test and ultra sound came out of. and he discharged me. he sent me to a ortho sergen and the phisio therapist. because it was my back he said. he ordered a xray of my spine.
    well in april i started to go to the therapist, without seeing the ortho doctor.
    i have had 12 treatments on my back.
    now i never had any back pain before i started going to the therapist only the pain in my sides. the pain get worse when i walk or stand for periods of time. well nowi have really bad back pain, it is in the lower part of my back.
    i also have numbness in my hands and feet, and i dont mean tingleing, i mean deadness,
    i asked the therapist if she could get me into the ortho doctor as i didnt see that this was helping. and she sent hiom a letter.
    i got a letter from the ortho doctor and his waiting list was 8 weeks long.
    i called this place called pals. it helps people who have a problem with the health care. they got me into the doctor the very next day. which was july 6th, boy was that a wasted trip.
    i sat for several hour. hey i know doctors are busy. ive been waiting for this appointment for 7 months now.
    he walked in, i was standing because i could not sit, i cant sit or stand for any length of time now without it hurting pretty bad.
    he looked through my papers not reallt reading any of them,
    asked me why i was there and i told him the whole story as i have just told you.
    he asked me to take my top off and stand up. so i did and he looked at my back and asked me to bend forward and touched my spine and then turned me to the right and left, and then hasd me sit down and then checked my reflexes with this thing, and then looked at my hand for the numbness, which i dont have all the time i told him this.
    and he told me she couldnt find anything wrong with my back, and nothing with my hands,
    he said he would do some type of test on my hands to see were the numbness is coming from,
    and if i really wanted the scan which he didnt think i needed he would order it but it would be atleast 66 weeks before i could get it done and i would be all better by then. i told him well i guess i can kiss my job good bye if it is going to take that long. he said oh you work.
    i asked him about by back what was i suppose to do. he said continue going to therapy. i told him now wait i didnt have a back problem before i started it why should i continue, he just walked out.
    SO NOW WHAT DO I DO.
    MY BACK IS KILLING ME AND I HAVE NO WHERE TO GO
    ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS
    PLEASE HELP ME
    I HAVE LOST MY JOB BECAUSE IT IS TAKING SO LONG.

     
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    Old 07-07-2004, 07:18 AM   #2
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    hi im a lil confused did u see an orthopedic doctor? or a regular doctor,sounds like u need to see an orthopedic doctor,and as for your symptoms,i would say you have 1 or maybe a couple of nerves being pinched,have u ever hurt your back before,ill look for your message ok and will try,and i hope england isnt that far behind in medical field if this therapy u are doing is making it worse then STOP ,you may be making it worse,hang in there ok,and maybe some of the other angels on this board can help too ok

     
    Old 07-07-2004, 11:24 AM   #3
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    [COLOR=Indigo]I agree, stop going to physio therapy!!! Never do anything that makes you worse!! When it feels worse, that's your body telling you to stop, so listen to it!!
    You definitely need to see either an ortho or a neuro!! You have to see someone who specializes in what you're going through!! I wish you luck, as I know fighting to get drs to hear you, isn't easy!! Take care![/COLOR]

     
    Old 07-08-2004, 01:57 PM   #4
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    hi and thanks for writing,
    yeah i went to a orthopedic doctor. he fliped through my file and asked me why i was there and then asked me to take my top off and stand in from of him, and then he looked and touched my back. he had me turn and bend. and then said he didnt see anything wrong with my back, he told me that if i really wanted a mri he would order it but by the time i had it i would be ok.
    he said he would order some type of test to see about the numbness in my hands, didnt say anything about the numbness in the feet.
    i went to my regular doctor today to let him know what was happening and he said he wanted to try accupucture, not sure what it does but ok.
    he also said keep going to therapy and gave me some new pain pills and another anti inflamatory.
    i get the accupicuture next friday. has anyone had it done and does it work.
    gosh i think they will try anything not to run the bloody scan.
    how can this orthopedic doctor say my back is ok if he doesnt run any scan or xrays. how can he say it is ok just by looking and feeling it.
    thanks for listening
    please help me i am so fusterated. i have to tell my job that i love that im not coming back for atleast 66 more weeks. it has already been 7 months.
    i know i wont have a job after tomorrow, :-(

     
    Old 07-08-2004, 02:07 PM   #5
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    oh hey i forgot
    i have seen my doctor. 4 er doctors- i went to because i couldnt take the pain in my side
    a gasterologist.- who thought it was my back not my gall bladder (because the blood test, xray, and ultra sound) didnt show anything
    a orthopedic surgeon.- who didnt see anything wrong with my back
    4 sergeons_ which thought it was my gall bladder (when they admitted me to the hospital) but because i was quiet and didnt complain sent me home.
    now i dint know about in england but in iowa were i come from you dont scream and holler. here in england you are in a ward with 6 other people and all you have is a curtain between you. they also dont like giving out pain pills at night so you can watch the old people incase they get out of bed. because they are to lazy to come into the rooms at night.
    not once did they come into our ward at night to check on any of us. i should know i was AWAKE all night.before they turned the lights out i asked for something for pain and she said she would see if she could get me something and never came back.

     
    Old 07-08-2004, 02:44 PM   #6
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    Hello from Canada! Sorry things are so crappy for you. Your situation sounds somewhat familiar to mine. About 3 years ago I started having really bad stomach pains, about where my gallbladder sits and then it kinda spread throughout the stomach area. I had a bunch of tests done eg; x-rays, barium x-rays and a scope. Nothing showed in any of the tests so they just diagnosed me with Irritable Bowel Syndrome and sent me on my way. Several months after that I started getting a really sore back and it just kept getting worse. In November of 2002 I started seeing my doctor all the time however he didn't want to give me any anti inflammatory drugs because thay can ofter be very hard on your stomach. I had x-rays done on my back that showed a curved spine. After getting those results back my doctor decided to have a CT scan done (it's much more clear than x-rays) I had to wait 4 months for that. During this time I was completly unable to work, I didn't have to quit my job but I went on Long Term Disability, to this day I am still battleing for compensation from them. I was told to try Physio therapy to try to get some relief, it made things so much worse so I stopped right away. After getting my ct scan results back I was told that I had Spondylolysis L5/S1. My doctor reffered me to a rehabiliation specialist. Once I saw this doctor he suggested I have an injection to relieve inflamation in the area affected, that again didn't help. So, after that I went back to my doctor and he set an appointment up with a Orthopedic Surgeon. After waiting 1 year to see him I finally did, about 2 months ago. My first visit with him was very uplifting. He listened to everything I had to say and was genuinely interested in making me better as soon as he good. When I left there he had scheduled an MRI which I just got back from. I still had to wait for 2 months after my initial appointment but it was worth it, however, that waiting is not over yet. I still have to wait 1 month and a half until my next appointment with him. That will be the day that I decide whether or not I want to go through with my surgery. My suggestion to you would be demand to see a Orthopedic surgeon and or a neurological surgeon. If you have to wait for a long time, don't get discouraged chances your problem will not go away on it's own and eventually you will need those appointments. It's not always easy, and for me, being 22 years old it's been a real struggle. The pain is unbareable which makes it very difficult do to much at all. Oh ya about accupuncture, I have never tried it and I think, well to my knowledge anyway it's theraputic but probably not for these types of problems, I could be wrong though. As long as you know it's not going to do any further damage I say try anything. I can't think of anything else that may be helpfull to you so please if you have any questions at all just let me know. Kristy.

     
    Old 07-09-2004, 10:11 AM   #7
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    Hi cutekitty,

    I can't tell you how much I sympathise AND empathise with you. I am also unfortunate enough to live in England with major 'medical issues' which have been ignored. I have also received almost exactly the same 'quality of care' as you have - as in Nada, zero, zilch. From the indifferent doctors who dismiss your concerns as irrelevant, right down to the lazy, unpleasant night staff on the hospital wards.

    But most importantly, I was also told I had nothing much wrong with me and sent to physio (where they refused to tell me anything about my condition anyway) and put on pain killers with anti-inflammatories. I've now come to understand that if they give you anti-inflammatories and you have a lot of back pain, then you most probably have a major disc problem iwhich is obviously causing pressure on a nerve. For them to admit that now after so many other doctors have already pronounced you 'fit', is asking them to break some sinister code of honour which could effect, not only their working relationships, but also their retirement pensions!!

    The truth is probably that someone screwed-up at the beginning and they're now all trying to cover his or her tracks, as well as their own. I am currently trying to get a diagnosis and/or explanation for why I'm now a cripple and unable to sit, stand or walk for more than a minute at a time. Originally they diagnosed me with Secondary Progressive MS (!!!) - no doubt in the hope of disguising my inevitable 'demise' behind something that few doctors outside the MS field would be willing to take on. The fact is that I've never accepted it, and the deeper I dig, the uglier it seems to get. The problem is that the more doctors you see who have to say their colleagues are (and have always been) correct, the more they have to work at keeping each other out of trouble.

    In truth, it would seem that we are both victims of a duplicitous NHS which is more concerned about their doctors' retirement pension rights than their patients' medical welfare!

    I wish you all the best anyway and will be keeping an eye out for your future postings. Good luck!!

    L

    PS. You wouldn't happen to live in West London by any chancec?

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    Old 07-09-2004, 12:30 PM   #8
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    hi and thanks for answering me.
    yeah that sounds about right for the doctors here.
    i live by atherstone which is by conventry.
    they have me on anti inflamatory pills and pain pills. and now they want to try accupucture. have you heard of it and do you think it will work.
    how do i get them to fix the disk or atleast say yes that is whats wrong.
    i really hate the waiting. i wont have my job after i tell them i have to wait 66 weeks to have the mri scan. they said they wouldnt wait any long after the appointment with the orthopedic doctor.
    and if the orthopedic doctor said nothing was up with my back who do i go to
    that will say what is really up with it.
    gosh how i hate the health care system here.
    vicky

     
    Old 07-09-2004, 12:32 PM   #9
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    Old 07-09-2004, 12:36 PM   #10
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    Old 07-09-2004, 12:43 PM   #11
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    hey i have been back to my gp and no he can not order a scan, they can take as long as they like to get you in for one
    and i am not bad mouthing it so stop it.
    all i am saying is why is it taking so long and why i am i worse now then when i begain. and i dont want to go back to iowa.
    and why is it people who have nothing really wrong with them and can get for a scan right away and people who are in a LOT of pain have to wait not only 7months but now another 66 weeks.
    im only asking for help not someone talking to me the way you are.
    i have asked my gp to run the scan and he said he cant order one it has to be ordered from a different type of doctor he can only order certain test.
    im sorry if i sound like a bad person but i have been dealing with this for 7 months now. and i just want my life back. i started out with just a pain in my side and now i have a pain in my side and a really bad back. i cant stand or sit or do anything now.
    im sorry if that makes me sound like a bad person.
    i have been very nice about all of this. i know the doctors are busy and i understand they are trying to save money. i just want my life back. i loved my job, and i love living here in england. so please dont talk to me like that.
    by the way my brother in laws girlfriend is facking problems and she got into a scan right away. so yell at her ok

     
    Old 07-09-2004, 12:45 PM   #12
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    hey.
    i have one more thing to say,
    i have been going to my gp almost once a week for the last 7 months and he has really been trying to help me.
    i know it isnt his fault it is taking so long.
    im not knocking the health care here. all i want is someone to help me ok.
    i am new to england i and i dont know what i am suppose to do.
    do i keep asking my doctor to help me?
    do i keep going to therapy?
    do i just sit on my butt and wait until i cant move anymore?
    i have never had problems with my back or my health.
    so please dont talk to me like you did. i didnt come on this board to be talked to by someone like you. i came here to ask for help.
    i came to england because i loved it and i have no intention of moving back to the u.s.
    i know the health care here is trying their best to help everyone
    but you put yourself in my shoes ok.
    7 months ago i didnt have any pain i was happy healthy, had a great job and i family i could go out and have fun with.
    now i cant go out anymore, i cant lift and play with my cats. i dont have a job anymore.
    all i have is pain everyday.
    so what am i to do, alot of the time i feel like just ending it all. then i wont have the pain.
    i have done everything they have asked me to, and i dont moan to the doctors, i sit and wait.
    so please dont tell me to bugger off ok

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    Old 07-09-2004, 01:19 PM   #13
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    [QUOTE=cutekitty41]hi and thanks for answering me.
    yeah that sounds about right for the doctors here.
    i live by atherstone which is by conventry.
    they have me on anti inflamatory pills and pain pills. and now they want to try accupucture. have you heard of it and do you think it will work.
    how do i get them to fix the disk or atleast say yes that is whats wrong.
    i really hate the waiting. i wont have my job after i tell them i have to wait 66 weeks to have the mri scan. they said they wouldnt wait any long after the appointment with the orthopedic doctor.
    and if the orthopedic doctor said nothing was up with my back who do i go to
    that will say what is really up with it.
    gosh how i hate the health care system here.
    vicky[/QUOTE]

    Hi vicky

    Well the problem is that I haven't yet managed to crack that particular one yet, but your first call should always be your GP. He or she is your first line of 'attack'. I actually ended-up crying in my GP's office once out of sheer frustration - not to mention pain (and yes, I'm female!) It did actually work up to a certain point because I then received a letter from her a few days later saying that my Orth. Surgeon wanted to see me again and this time wanted to send me for an Epidural. He apparently cited 'a conflict of interests' ( i.e. 'collusion') as the reason why he hadn't helped me before. It didn't help me much, but it did prove that bawling your eyes out in your GP's office CAN get some kind of a result sometimes. It's not much in the way of advice to you, I know, but it's the best I've been able to achieve so far.

    Just thought: maybe you could ask your GP for an x-ray instead of having to wait such an unbelievably long time for an MRI? Or mayve even a myelogram? They were the methods used before MRI's were invented and, apparently, they can show quite a lot in the way of spinal problems too.

    Anyway, the best advicec I can give you is to try and stay positive if you can and see your GP again asap. There's light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure!!

    L

     
    Old 07-13-2004, 02:01 PM   #14
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    hi everyone and that to those who replyed to me.
    well i have just come back from the rhumatologist and he did a full exam. and he is ordring some more test one with a dye they put in my arm and look at my nerves. i guess. and some more blood test, and a chest x-ray, and a vitamin d test. he seems to think it is my back also. but they need to find out just were the problem lays in order to fix it. my back isnt hurting as much as it did. i asked the therapist not to do my back for a few weeks. just to give it a rest and now it isnt so bad,
    atleast this doctor seem to talk to us not at us, and he had read my whole file before we came in to see him. so that was a improvement.
    he didnt think the knumbness in my hands had anything to do with my back he seems to think it is corpal tunnel. which i dont quite understand. it gets worse when i lay on my sides or on my back. but hey he is the specialist. they are going to run some test on them so that will show what is the cause of it.
    anyways thought i would give you all a up date.
    will keep you informed
    thanks again vicky

     
    Old 07-13-2004, 02:19 PM   #15
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    Hi

    Glad to hear your good news. It sounds like you're being taken care of now and on the way to recovery. Good for you!!

    Good luck and let us know how it goes.

    L

     
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