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    Old 08-23-2003, 08:58 AM   #61
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    Good Morning everyone! Well, I went to the casino last nite. Ouch! I took a vicodin before I went cause I knew all that sitting after sitting at work all day was going to get me. Today my back feels ok, but the foot's burning! Got my tens on as I type. Anyway, looks like my PT is going to be cut down to 1/week now. I guess now we'll see how committed I am to continuing my home exercise regimen! He said everything is coming along great as when he presses anywhere along the nerve path, it does not generate pain. When I first started PT, it hurt at 5 or 6 different places along the nerve. Also, as I'm not getting the foot pain regulary now, he says I'm well on my way. Even driving is OK now! So, that's my update. One other thing... the insurance company settled on my behalf!!! So I won't have to go to court. It's not a lot of money, but it certainly helps after all the pain for a year and a half.
    ~Michaela, welcome!!! Why have you been lurking all this time and not jumping in??? We're glad to have you here! Are you still having the back ache? And do you still have nerve pain? Where? Any numbness? Just curious! You're just a couple weeks behind me! Are you in PT? Well, enough of the 3rd degree! Glad your here!
    ~Mike, how are you today? How's the walking going?
    ~Seeks, don't give up hope!!! Nerves can take a year. Doctor's don't know everything. It's your body. Did you try the strengthening exercise Thom mentioned with the rubber band thing and the foot? PT told me again yesterday to keep doing that every day to strengthen the foot. I think it would be very beneficial for you. I was talking to someone in PT yesterday who said his brother had a micro-d and it took him a year before he felt good, but that was several years ago and you'd never know he ever had surgery!! We will pray that's the case in your recovery~
    Rosa, how are you?
    Raiza, nice to hear from you. So glad to hear you are doing so well. Hopefully you are well on your way to full recovery!
    ~Hi to everyone else... Thom, Laura, Dave, David and everyone else! ~Daubie...

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    Herniated disc L5/S1
    Epidurals x3, PT 4 mos, some relief
    Microdiscectomy 6/6/03
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    Car Accident 2/2/02
    Herniated disc L5/S1
    Epidurals x3, PT 4 mos, some relief, but constant foot pain and numbness continued
    Microdiscectomy 6/6/03
    9/5/03 still have foot pain and numbness but recovered fine from surgery
    1/19/04 I am 7 mos post op. I still have the same foot pain as before surgery. Doc agrees it is probably permanent nerve damage. Started neurontin this week. Still glad I had the surgery though!

     
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    Old 08-23-2003, 12:08 PM   #62
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    goodmorning everyone, just woke up, kinda slept in, lol, got up at 11:30 ishh, what a bum I am, well I have been waking up in the morning, and its so hard to get up sometimes because it hurts, sometimes I take a pain pill as soon as I've ate, its all lower back, yesterday I walked 4 laps on the tread mill, does anyone know what 4 laps is, like is it equal to 1 mile? just curious...I'm going to try and walk more and more everyday, I am almost 9 weeks post op, and I have been having this darn cough but I try to do little coughs till I'm done coughing, kinda like clearing my throat, it works...well I'm just starting my day, I will check back with ya all later, hugw hugz to all of you, I love you all....

    Michaela

    think I'm going to go to the pool and work on the tan today!

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    August 29th 2002 Injured back at work
    from August 2002 till late Nov, roller coaster ride with pain etc.
    Dec Friday 13th 2002 laid off job.
    Dec. 26th pain starts back up again, lasts for 6 weeks before pain got better then turned to sciatic pain for about 10 weeks.
    April 1st had MRI.
    April 4th MRI read by my doctor, reading L5-S1 herniated disk W/8mm bulge, pressing on nerve in spine.
    Doc says I need surgery.
    Then I was investigated (pictures & video taped)
    Had second opinion Doctor appt. and Workmans comp didn't notify me till the day after the appt. by usa mail. I was ******!
    I did go to the appt. on another day, thank god I did, cause it was the icing on the cake at my hearing. I won!
    Then had surgery for Laminectomy/Disectomy June 18th 2003.
    I also had ALOT of scare tissue, surgery was longer then expected.
    now I am over 4 weeks post op.
    still get a zing down left leg, but I can walk.
    7/30/2003 still having low back pain, like an ache feeling at the end of the day (6wk po)
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    August 29th 2002 Injured back at work
    from August 2002 till late Nov, roller coaster ride with pain etc.
    Dec Friday 13th 2002 laid off job.
    Dec. 26th pain starts back up again, lasts for 6 weeks before pain got better then turned to sciatic pain for about 10 weeks.
    April 1st had MRI.
    April 4th MRI read by my doctor, reading L5-S1 herniated disk W/8mm bulge, pressing on nerve in spine.
    Doc says I need surgery.
    Then I was investigated (pictures & video taped)
    Had second opinion Doctor appt. and Workmans comp didn't notify me till the day after the appt. by usa mail. I was ******!
    I did go to the appt. on another day, thank god I did, cause it was the icing on the cake at my hearing. I won!
    Then had surgery for Laminectomy/Disectomy June 18th 2003.
    I also had ALOT of scare tissue, surgery was longer then expected.
    now I am over 4 weeks post op.
    still get a zing down left leg, but I can walk.
    7/30/2003 still having low back pain, like an ache feeling at the end of the day (6wk po)

     
    Old 08-23-2003, 01:12 PM   #63
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    Hi everyone. I have a question.

    I had surgery on Aug 11, 2003. Yesterday, there was some leakage....maybe a half teaspoon worth of liquid? I kinda have a problem picking on scabs...so i was kidna picking my wound (I know...bad)...so I thought it was a bad idea and put hydrogen peroxide around the incision. i guess it ate away some of the scab/liquid bandaid barrier they put on me and it started leaking this greyish/brownish/yellowish liquid. i put a regular bandaid on it. But I'm a little concerned that I broke the seal on some medication they injected in me. It smelled kinda like medicine.

    Is this normal? Should I contact the doctor? I would really appreciate your responses. Thanks.

     
    Old 08-23-2003, 04:11 PM   #64
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    Mike, I think I'd call the doctor. Just to be on the safe side. Since it's Sat., maybe you could just keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't get red, or inflammed, but I'd call 1st thing Monday morning. I also think I would put some Neosporin on it because now that it is an open incision, it could easily get infected. That's just what I would do, but could be totally off base. Maybe you should post this question out on the board. I'd put the question in the title line, something like: "incision opened post op, should I call my doctor"... Good luck

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    Epidurals x3, PT 4 mos, some relief
    Microdiscectomy 6/6/03
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    Car Accident 2/2/02
    Herniated disc L5/S1
    Epidurals x3, PT 4 mos, some relief, but constant foot pain and numbness continued
    Microdiscectomy 6/6/03
    9/5/03 still have foot pain and numbness but recovered fine from surgery
    1/19/04 I am 7 mos post op. I still have the same foot pain as before surgery. Doc agrees it is probably permanent nerve damage. Started neurontin this week. Still glad I had the surgery though!

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 08:46 AM   #65
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    Hey all,

    Hope everyone had a great weekend. It was gorgeous in the DC area. My Sunday morning walk was 61 degrees and zero humidity, unbelievable. I can't wait for fall weather. I'm actually riding the bike more than walking, but I do try to walk a mile a day (even though the second half mile kinda sucks), as I'll never know if I'm improving if I don't.

    Daubie, no my PT hasn't used the tens anywhere but around my incision and it does help the back ache alot. My nerve pain/numbness in foot is apparently only from the pinched area of the herniated disk, so that is where she works. I do the foot wiggle in the air while on back alot, usually right after stretching hamstrings. My abs are now strong enough to do "cycling" with both legs off of ground while on my back, but proper situps are not going well. I'm just starting the one hand/opposite leg stabilty routine.

    I'm so glad to hear your nerve is better. I didn't realize you actually had pain from touching along the nerve itself, all down your leg, ouch!

    Saw my NS friday, he was not happy about commute/sitting, but said he would have let me go back this week anyway. He almost sent me for MRI regarding saddle and right leg nerve pain, as it's been long enough for that to go away if due to local swelling around the nerves, but since I had no numbness when we rolled the sharp pizza-cutter thing all around my legs and crotch, he said to come back in a month .... hoping that if I sit less, move as much as possible, get back in pool, etc. it will go away. My left foot comes up a litte more, so he's very happy about that.

    Raiza ... so glad you're better after five weeks! Today is my six week anniversary ...

    Well, hope everyone has a good, painfree as possible, week ... hi to everyone, too many to mention anymore, and I'm lazy anyway.

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    I have 5mm herniation of L5-S1 on right side that is asymptomatic, no surgery recommended

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 10:23 AM   #66
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    Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself to everyone here, as I am having surgery tomorrow. I am having a hemilaminectomy wtth microdiscectomy at L5/S1. I am 25 years old and have been in pain since early December 2002. I have tried PT, accupuncture, chiro, and epidural injections. I actually have two herniated discs, but only L5/S1 is herniated to the left causing my left leg pain. My L4/L5 is also herniated, but centrally so it isn't the cause of my leg pain. I also have a lot of back pain. I think I am ready to get this surgery over with. I just wanted to say a quick hello before I go because I will probably be posting more once I am home and able to get back to my computer. I wish you all a good week!

    -Lauren

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 10:51 AM   #67
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    Hi everyone!!

    I too am introducing myself as Laura has invited us to come here and get support!!
    I am also having a discectomy on Sept 5th. One thing that scares me most is that I have had a previous fusion. Other than that, this is my last option. I have been dealing with this this time around for 14 months. I don't have alot of leg pain, only when it flares once in awhile does it bother me alot. I have mostly a major twinge in my back. I fear that this surgery will not take care of that but I am at my wits end. Anyone out there had the surgery and it took care of a major twinge in the back???? I'm curious! That is most of my problem, If I do anything active or try to sweep or something it flares and the "twinge"/"stabbing pain" get worse in my back.
    Well, I'm sure I'll be lurking around here now since I know that you all are 'experienced'. I'll talk to everyone later!!

    Michaela!
    I saw in your signature that you had alot of scar tissue, was that from a previous surgery or how did that come about? Did they just see it when they cut you open and saw it or did it show on the MRI? I am very curious about that too!

    Thanks,
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    1993: T1 to L1 fusion due to scoliosis at age 17
    2000: Tore and ruptured L4 L5 & L5 S1-it finally got better after about a year. Did really well for about a year.
    June 2002: Had a relapse and tore/ruptured disc again.
    Now I'm 14 months into it and the pain is still there.
    Can't deal with it anymore so I'm having a discectomy in Sept. Hoping and praying that it takes care of my problems!!
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    27 years old
    1993: T1 to L1 fusion due to scoliosis at age 17
    2000: Tore and ruptured L4 L5 & L5 S1-it finally got better after about a year. Did really well for about a year.
    June 2002: Had a relapse and tore/ruptured disc again.
    Now I'm 14 months into it and the pain is still there.
    Can't deal with it anymore so I'm having a discectomy in Sept. Hoping and praying that it takes care of my problems!!

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 12:28 PM   #68
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    Hi ChristinaD, when I went into surgery they didn't know about all the scare tissue till they opened me up, and lets see, my surgery took longer then expected, went into surgery about 2:30 pm, and I made it to my room at 9pm, I never had an old injury that I can remember, and you'd think I'd surely remember that, lol, anyhow I was surprised to hear of all the extra scare tissue too. good luck with your surgery! I'm sure you'll do just fine
    and keep us posted...

    has anyone had to deal with coughing??? I have had a yukkie cough, and I'm going to go buy medicine today, but it keeps me up at night while trying to sleep, and since I have had surgery, it hurts in my back, anyhow, just made call to doctors office to see if he will give me an rx for cough medicine...Hope everyone had a great weekend, hugzzzzzzz to all...

    Michaela

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    August 29th 2002 Injured back at work
    from August 2002 till late Nov, roller coaster ride with pain etc.
    Dec Friday 13th 2002 laid off job.
    Dec. 26th pain starts back up again, lasts for 6 weeks before pain got better then turned to sciatic pain for about 10 weeks.
    April 1st had MRI.
    April 4th MRI read by my doctor, reading L5-S1 herniated disk W/8mm bulge, pressing on nerve in spine.
    Doc says I need surgery.
    Then I was investigated (pictures & video taped)
    Had second opinion Doctor appt. and Workmans comp didn't notify me till the day after the appt. by usa mail. I was ******!
    I did go to the appt. on another day, thank god I did, cause it was the icing on the cake at my hearing. I won!
    Then had surgery for Laminectomy/Disectomy June 18th 2003.
    I also had ALOT of scare tissue, surgery was longer then expected.
    now I am over 4 weeks post op.
    still get a zing down left leg, but I can walk.
    7/30/2003 still having low back pain, like an ache feeling at the end of the day (6wk po)
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    August 29th 2002 Injured back at work
    from August 2002 till late Nov, roller coaster ride with pain etc.
    Dec Friday 13th 2002 laid off job.
    Dec. 26th pain starts back up again, lasts for 6 weeks before pain got better then turned to sciatic pain for about 10 weeks.
    April 1st had MRI.
    April 4th MRI read by my doctor, reading L5-S1 herniated disk W/8mm bulge, pressing on nerve in spine.
    Doc says I need surgery.
    Then I was investigated (pictures & video taped)
    Had second opinion Doctor appt. and Workmans comp didn't notify me till the day after the appt. by usa mail. I was ******!
    I did go to the appt. on another day, thank god I did, cause it was the icing on the cake at my hearing. I won!
    Then had surgery for Laminectomy/Disectomy June 18th 2003.
    I also had ALOT of scare tissue, surgery was longer then expected.
    now I am over 4 weeks post op.
    still get a zing down left leg, but I can walk.
    7/30/2003 still having low back pain, like an ache feeling at the end of the day (6wk po)

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 01:11 PM   #69
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    Sorry - duplicated post...

    [This message has been edited by DSH54 (edited 08-25-2003).]
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    MicroDiscectomy July 11th 2003- Recovering...

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 01:12 PM   #70
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    Hi everyone, sorry I haven't posted in a while.
    ChristinaD - welcome, and best of luck for September 5th
    Stormy32 - Hope it all goes well for you tomorrow.
    Tung-Sol - Good to hear that the left foot is making progress!

    I'm looking for a bit of reassurance or to compare notes. I'm now 6 weeks post op (L5-S1 Microdiscectomy) and am getting really frustrated with slow progress. The really searing pain I used to get most of the time has gone, but I've still got nerve pain running down the right leg. It's made MUCH worse by sitting and driving - and I was hoping that by now this would be better. I've also got tightness across my lower back if I lean forward, or relax my lower back and let it straighten. I'm due to go back to work in two weeks and I'm worried about how I'll cope with the commute (60 minutes each way by train).
    I also get lower backache during the afternoon and evening, but that's easier to live with.

    I'm seeing my surgeon tomorrow for a six-week check, and I'm hoping he'll clear me for PT. All he's let me do so far is walk - a lot! - but after I've been sitting, even walking doesn't get rid of the achey/nerve pain.

    Does my experience match those of others (my NS said that the leg pain 'should go straight away'), and is there anything else I should be asking the NS tomorrow?!?

    Sorry to sound so miserable, but I've spent the day moaning to my wife so it's your turn to hear it now!!

    Best wishes.
    David

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    MicroDiscectomy July 11th 2003- Recovering...
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    MicroDiscectomy July 11th 2003- Recovering...

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 02:29 PM   #71
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    Hello David,
    I feel so much the same way you do.
    On Wed 27 will be my 6 week after surgery (07/16/03). I am kind of concerned, even though surgery has gotten rid of the major aches; I still feel pain on my legs.

    This is what I feel:
    1. Someone is pooling my right toes.
    2. Like if someone is hanging from my waist and pulling me down, that eventually my hips/pelvis hurt.
    3. Muscular pain both legs and some pocking on ankle and calf
    4. I will say muscular pain is the biggie for me.

    (Last week)
    Monday & Tuesday was BAD
    Wednesday & Thursday got better
    Friday night started to get the pain on my left leg and all day Saturday was really BAD, meanwhile the right was calmed. Doctors have always said that my herniation has always been on the right side, but even though I feel only the cable pain/nerve on my right dawn to my toes, my left leg has always hurt (not with the cable). I told them that my left also hurt but they insist it is only on my right.

    Sunday (yesterday), I laid down all day & got better. Today I am having an OK day (acceptable). But I don't know later on today or tomorrow.

    Does this sound familiar to you?

    I talked to a friend that he is NS and he has been doing back surgeries for 15 years, he said that I this time, I should not be having pain, let along taking anti-inflamatories. I am still taken them.

    My doc says I need to wait up to a year. What a long time to wait specially that I am 37 and wanting to have kids some day. In a year I will be 38.. and who knows if I will be ok by then.

    Lemmie know,
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    -Surgery (07/16/03)
    -Laminectomy, Lumbard L5-S1 herniated disc.
    -Started with back problems on 08/27/01.
    -Had 3 epidurals. First they missed, Second worked, however, pain was right back to square one by the fourth month. Third one didn't help much.
    -Went to chiropractor for 4 months, I was worse after each session.
    -Went to acupuncture for 3 months, Dr. told me I needed to go to a specialist that he could not help me.
    -Body massage, would relief pain for a couple of hours.
    -Did exercises/stretches, no help.
    -Changed insurance. Kaiser was just sending me home by saying: "It will get better" ...never did !!
    -Went to see a new NS with a different insurance, in w/in a week he was doing surgery on me.
    -2 first weeks post/op was feeling better (too drugged).
    -The next four weeks It became worse than before surgery. Dr. told me it was normal.
    -I am in my Third and half month post/op and it feels so much better.
    -I am glad I went through surgery. Life is better now.

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 02:34 PM   #72
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    David, also had L5-S1 Microdiscectomy.

    I also forgot to tell you:
    Also feel I am doing a slow progress. A friend of mine had surgery and at 10 days post sergury he says he does not have pain therefore not taking anti-inflamatories.

    Also hard to stay sitting down for so long. My situation worsens, but if I lay down or walk get somewhat better.

    Also feel the tightness across my lower back if I lean forward.

    I started driving to work last week, but I am not doing it everyday. The other days I work from home. It will be hard to drive in if I had to do it everyday. I advise you to stay home a couple of more weeks, if your work is one of those if you have to drive in everyday.

    raiza

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    -Surgery (07/16/03)
    -Laminectomy, Lumbard L5-S1 herniated disc.
    -Started with back problems on 08/27/01.
    -Had 3 epidurals. First they missed, Second worked, however, pain was right back to square one by the fourth month. Third one didn't help much.
    -Went to chiropractor for 4 months, I was worse after each session.
    -Went to acupuncture for 3 months, Dr. told me I needed to go to a specialist that he could not help me.
    -Body massage, would relief pain for a couple of hours.
    -Did exercises/stretches, no help.
    -Changed insurance. Kaiser was just sending me home by saying: "It will get better" ...never did !!
    -Went to see a new NS with a different insurance, in w/in a week he was doing surgery on me.
    -2 first weeks post/op was feeling better (too drugged).
    -The next four weeks It became worse than before surgery. Dr. told me it was normal.
    -I am in my Third and half month post/op and it feels so much better.
    -I am glad I went through surgery. Life is better now.

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 02:37 PM   #73
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    Michaela, I am also 6 weeks post op. Are you still taking anti-inflamatories?
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    -Surgery (07/16/03)
    -Laminectomy, Lumbard L5-S1 herniated disc.
    -Started with back problems on 08/27/01.
    -Had 3 epidurals. First they missed, Second worked, however, pain was right back to square one by the fourth month. Third one didn't help much.
    -Went to chiropractor for 4 months, I was worse after each session.
    -Went to acupuncture for 3 months, Dr. told me I needed to go to a specialist that he could not help me.
    -Body massage, would relief pain for a couple of hours.
    -Did exercises/stretches, no help.
    -Changed insurance. Kaiser was just sending me home by saying: "It will get better" ...never did !!
    -Went to see a new NS with a different insurance, in w/in a week he was doing surgery on me.
    -2 first weeks post/op was feeling better (too drugged).
    -The next four weeks It became worse than before surgery. Dr. told me it was normal.
    -I am in my Third and half month post/op and it feels so much better.
    -I am glad I went through surgery. Life is better now.

     
    Old 08-25-2003, 02:44 PM   #74
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    Hi Raiza,

    Sounds like we're at the same stage and going through the same stuff... Last week I was feeling much better, but on Saturday I went to college (I'm off work but trying to keep up with a part-time college course) which was a couple of hours in the car and a couple of hours sitting. Since then, it's been painful again. Went for a walk this morning - 2 miles or so. Did OK, but after lunch I was tired out and ended up going to bed at about 3 this afternoon for a few hours. Went for another walk this evening and I'm just generally worn out!

    For me, the pain is sometimes like somebody's pulling my foot down, and sometimes like somebody's pushing a thumb into my thigh (odd, I know).

    It's nice to know I'm not alone, though!! I'll let you know what the NS has to say tomorrow.

    Best wishes and keep smiling!!
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    Old 08-25-2003, 02:51 PM   #75
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    David, yes, please let me know how you do after. I am not due to see doctor until 2 months. Seems we are doin the same. I will keep you posted.
    Must tell you:
    I started driving to work last week, but I am not doing it everyday. The other days I work from home. My type of work allows me to do that. If I had to drive in everyday, I don't think I could do it. I advise you to stay home a couple of more weeks, if your work is one of those that you have to go in everyday.

    Best of luck, let me know what the doctor tells you tomorrow.

    raiza

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    -Surgery (07/16/03)
    -Laminectomy, Lumbard L5-S1 herniated disc.
    -Started with back problems on 08/27/01.
    -Had 3 epidurals. First they missed, Second worked, however, pain was right back to square one by the fourth month. Third one didn't help much.
    -Went to chiropractor for 4 months, I was worse after each session.
    -Went to acupuncture for 3 months, Dr. told me I needed to go to a specialist that he could not help me.
    -Body massage, would relief pain for a couple of hours.
    -Did exercises/stretches, no help.
    -Changed insurance. Kaiser was just sending me home by saying: "It will get better" ...never did !!
    -Went to see a new NS with a different insurance, in w/in a week he was doing surgery on me.
    -2 first weeks post/op was feeling better (too drugged).
    -The next four weeks It became worse than before surgery. Dr. told me it was normal.
    -I am in my Third and half month post/op and it feels so much better.
    -I am glad I went through surgery. Life is better now.

     
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