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    Old 11-17-2004, 09:24 PM   #1
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    Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    I have a herninated disk in L4-5 area and a DD too. I am shocked to see so many people say they cant sit. It kills my back to stand or walk for long periods of time. It makes my back ache on my right side like I just want someone jump on it to crack it to relieve the aching. Anyone else have this with a bad disc? I have my wife stand on my back and it relieves my pain.


    Of course I have other pains too like the sharper stabbing pains but not near as often as the aching pains, it also feels like theres preasure or a push on my right side of my back constantly anytime I'm standing bending over.


    Sitting relieves that pain a lot as does squating/laying. Then I see a lot of people say that they can not sit and walking feels great. I'm totally oppisite, why is this?

     
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    Old 11-17-2004, 09:26 PM   #2
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Since it is on the right, not your spine, could be your SI joint out of whack.

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 09:31 PM   #3
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Dont quite understand what your saying, all my pain is on my right, when I have it shooting down my leg, it comes from my right, my sharp pains are from my right. My left side of my back feels completley pain free. I know 3 other people in real life that have herninated discs and they all say its on one side or the other as well.

    What is S1? Could that pain be coming from my digenerated disc? Im not sure which one is degenerated but I know its one in the lower back.

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 09:38 PM   #4
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Has your doctor said anything about spinal stenosis? That is a narrowing of the spinal canal that can be caused by arthritis, slipped disks, etc. When you sit down or bend over, you stretch the canal and allow the nerves room to work. Standing straight and walking cause the nerves to be constricted and results in pain and/or numbness. Before my surgery three weeks ago, that was my major symptom. The myelogram and CT scan clearly showed the pinched place in my spine at L4-L5. My surgery hollowed out the vertebrae to make room for the nerves to function. I am now able to stand and walk for as much as an hour without the numbness... whereas before I could only stand about 15 minutes. Of course now I still have pain and other sensations, but it is from the incisions and surgery. Right now it hurts to sit down, whereas before surgery it was relief to sit down. But now I can stand and walk, whereas before I could not do that. Maybe this will help you.

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 09:52 PM   #5
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Mary would that be caused by a herninated disc? I never had any of these problems before the lifting incident. Would the MRI show that? What surgery did you get? I am able to go about 15 mins of standing before it starts to bother me. After about 30-45 straight mins with no breaks I feel like I need someone to walk on my lower back to relieve that pain/archs. When my wife stands on my lower back it feels SOOOOOOO good.

    I can relate it to having to use the bathroom REALLY REALLY bad, and when you finally get to go, it feels so good. thats how it feels to have someone stand on my lower back after a long time standing/walking.

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 10:05 PM   #6
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Parks:

    Could be from a herniated disc pushing on a nerve or from the SI joint, which is to the side of your spine. It is hard to explain the SI joint. No one really understands it or why we even have it but it is there and I have read that almost 80% of lower back pain can be attributed to it.

    Pain running down the leg sounds like sciatica. That is not good.

    SI: sacroilliac joint

    DDD means that your disc is degenerating. Those don't usually cause pain.

    I would get an EMG if I were you.

    I would pass on letting your wife stand on your back now that you know that you have DDD.

    good luck,

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 10:44 PM   #7
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    I can usually walk okay, sometimes it feels like I have a catch or something and it hurts. Usually, sitting and standing are the worst, even lying down can be bad. I have to change positions often. I have DDD from l4-s1, both with a bulge, plus on in my neck w/arthritis. Looking down hurts my neck-I would be careful letting others stand on your back though, try a deep tissue massage or hot bath instead. Lying on your stomach isn't supposed to be good either.

     
    Old 11-17-2004, 10:47 PM   #8
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    I have a couple of herniated discs, but the major herniation is pushing on the sciatic nerve going to the left leg, thus, similar to you, most of my pain while standing or walking is on one side (the left, in my case), and then some radiating down my leg.

    For me, when I threw my back out, it was excruciating to walk, and sitting or especially laying down on my stomach was much less painful. However, that changed with some rest and time. Once I was diagnosed, I started being more careful, stretching and walking, on a day to day basis, and now sitting is generally more bothersome than walking. Standing still bothers me a little, but I find that if I try and keep good posture and tighten my abs, that helps. Plus, pain while standing has definitely decreased as I've strengthened my back and abs.

    The point of all this rambling is, maybe if your situation is similar to mine, then as you go forward and perhaps do some physical therapy and try to be careful and do all that other stuff, walking and even standing will not be as painful. Sitting is generally bad because it puts a lot of pressure on your lower back, especially if you slouch and don't have good back support.

     
    Old 11-18-2004, 03:54 AM   #9
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Parks

    For god sake stop your wife standing on your back!!! If you do have a back problem this is going to make it much worse. It may feel good at the time but you will suffer afterwards. I like to have a hot bath which at the time feels great but it increases the swelling in my back and causes more pain.

    I suggest you should get a MRI scan done,if you have not done so, it will let you know more of what is going on and what actual therapy you can do to help and make it better. The pain from a hernitated disc all depends on where the bulge has come out of. As it is round it can bulge from any diameter, some at the front some at the side or back, this will have a bearing on what position makes it worse and what nerves it presses on. This could be the answer to why you are more comfortable sitting and not walking.
    How do you know you have the herniation? If it is due to you already having a scan then did the specialists not give you advice on what to do?

    Lorraine

     
    Old 11-18-2004, 06:20 AM   #10
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    I already had a MRI, it said I have a moderate hernination in the L4-L5 area and DD on the one below it I believe. When I have the sharp pains, standing on my back does nothing. I am talking about the aching pains from standing in place too long or twisting , bending for long periods of time.

    For example I weld for a living along with refridgeration. A few times a week I have to climb on a 6' ladder in a small hole and weld it which leaves me twisting my back as far as it goes for about 20-30 mins. After this weld my back is aching bad, not sharp pains, but aching where if I sit down 70% of it goes away until I stand up again. Thats when it feels great to have someone walk on my back. The upper back cracks which feels great and my lower back feels good for about 20 seconds, then I get up and stretch it and it feels so good.

     
    Old 11-18-2004, 08:08 AM   #11
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Parks,

    Well it sounds like when your wife walks on your back and it cracks she is releasing the gas pockets around the joints which is what a chiropractor does. Although they are specially trained to ensure nothing is made worse. If you get releif from this it may be a good idea to go and see a chiropractor, i would check with the specialist though who did the MRI scans if this would be the right thing for you. Twisting etc in your job is not good when you have a hernitated disc. Did you not get any info on treatment for your herniation?

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    Old 11-18-2004, 09:40 AM   #12
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    I can't sit, stand, or walk without experiencing terrible aching pain in my hips, lower back and right leg.... When I sit, I get more of the pain in my buttocks, and leg.... when I walk or stand, the pain is in my lower back, hips, buttocks, thigh, calf, and foot....So I do ALOT of shifting around, I pretty much can't sit or stand still.... if I sit down, after about 15 min or so I have to get up and walk around, then after about 15- 20 min of pain from that, I go sit down again, but most usually, when the pain gets so unbearable I just go lay down for about 30 min, then its back up and I go through the same cycle again, Its a royal pain... literally.

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    Old 11-18-2004, 06:57 PM   #13
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    In answer to your question about spinal stenosis. It can be caused by herniated disk, arthritis, or probably other things. Anything that squeezes off the spinal canal and causes the nerves to not be able to work right would be stenosis, I think. In my case, the MRI showed a couple of areas of stenosis. Then the myelogram and CT scan showed very clearly where the problem was. My surgery was to "ream out" the vertebrae where the obstruction was located, work on the disk between the vertebrae, and then attach rods and screws to give stability. Not a fun process, but now I can stand and walk for up to an hour (24 days following surgery) without the symptoms I had before surgery. Best wishes, Mary in Texas

     
    Old 11-18-2004, 10:51 PM   #14
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    Re: Does it hurt you to walk or sit?

    Problems with standing and walking, and relief with sitting and/or bending forward, are the "classic" symptoms of central canal spinal stenosis. Do some searches about it. You may well "find yourself."

    Standingman

     
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