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    Old 12-21-2004, 11:56 AM   #1
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    Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    Hi all,

    In the morning when I get up, and sometimes laying on the couch especially since I'm a stomach sleeper....my lower back is not only in pain but stiff and it's excrutiatingly painful when trying to move for the first half hour of the day. If I'm laying on the couch on my stomach and I get up for whatever reason, it's the same way. Anyone else experience this, and if so what do you do about it. I know, don't lay on my stomach, but for me, it's the only way to get decent sleep since I have Fibromyalgia, IBS and a few other things. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Old 12-21-2004, 06:06 PM   #2
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    Re: Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    Hi there,
    Your situation sounds exactly like mine when I started have health problems 2 and a half years ago. I also suffer from IBS. But my main problems with my back are lumbar lordosis, sciatica, spodylolisthesis and a pars fracture. My pain like you said, started in the morning and would often wake me up at night. It was so bad that I had difficulty breathing. I didn't wait to see a doctor. My first appt was with my regular GP and he did x-rays. THe only thing that he could see on the x-rays was the lumbar lordosis (curved spine). Well, the pain kept getting worse and I was put on a list to see an orthopedic surgeon. I had to wait 1 year to finally get in. During that time I tried alternate methods of treatment and had ct scans, MRI's, bone scans etc. Anyway to this day I am still suffering and trying to avoid surgery by doing some aggresive rehab. Anyway, this was probably more info than you needed but my point is, go to your doctor asap. It can be a long proccess so you don't want to put it off. To save time you should demand an MRI. Good luck and keep me posted. Kristy.

     
    Old 12-21-2004, 09:44 PM   #3
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    I can relate with the fibromyalgia and the morning pain/stiffness. I have to re-position myself throughout the night or I get real sore. Have you tried placing a thin pillow under your stomache while you sleep. My P/T taught me that idea. It does help me. She said that when you sleep on your stomache, your back curves in and you will have a hard time getting up in the morning. When you do wake up, pull your knees to your chest, one at a time and hold them there for 5 secs. ech. Do that several times before getting up. These are just suggestions until you can get in to see the Dr. It sounds like P/T could also help at some point.

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    Old 12-21-2004, 09:58 PM   #4
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    Re: Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    Kristy.... Just a quick question for you... I see that you say that you have Lumbar Lordosis.... dose your doctor tell you that this is part of the reason for your pain? Because I mentioned to my doctor about my MRI report and my Myelogram report both saying that I have "Severe Lumbar Lordosis" and when I brought it to his attention and ask if this is part of the culprit causing my pain, he basically said he didnt think so.. that lumbar lordosis isnt really a big deal and it doesn't really cause pain....what is your take on this from what you know by having it? Thanks Alot.... Take Care......

     
    Old 12-22-2004, 01:49 AM   #5
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    Re: Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    Hi there,
    Yes I know that it can cause a lot of pain, especailly if it is severe. That was my original diagnosis when I first started having my back problems 2 1/2 years ago. Since then I've been diagnosed with a few other problems and the pain has definitly increased a whole lot. It's hard for me to say exactly how much pain the lumbar lodosis is causing me because with the sciatica, spondylolisthesis and pars fracture I just can't tell, there is just always a whole lot of pain. Right now my surgeon is treating me for my spondylolisthesis and fracture (and that should help with the sciatica). I haven't been thinking too much about the lordosis because my surgeon hasn't, so I guess I've just been focused on what he's been telling me to do in regards to the other problems. Next time I see him I will be bringing it up, I think I probably have similar questions as you do. I wonder how and why it got this way in the first place and I wonder if it will get worse. I know it can in some people so, why not me? I am curious as to what other problems you might have and what if any surgeries you've been through. I know I read your posts all the time and I see your name, but refresh my memory and give me your story, if you don't mind. I look forward ro hearing from you. Take care. Kristy.

     
    Old 12-22-2004, 07:10 AM   #6
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    Re: Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    Stiffness and pain after sleeping is the scourge of folks with back problems. Even after surgery, it still comes. You might try getting in a hot shower; that's what my GP does -- he had a hemilaminectomy about a year before I did.

    I urge all of you with "severe lumbar lordosis" to get to a GOOD orthopedic surgeon ASAP. This is often the diagnosis by inexperienced docs when the real condition is spondylolisthesis. The ONLY cure for spondy is surgery; the results can be miraculous.

     
    Old 12-22-2004, 07:20 PM   #7
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    Re: Lower back pain stiffness upon waking

    [QUOTE=kristyg]Hi there,
    Yes I know that it can cause a lot of pain, especailly if it is severe. That was my original diagnosis when I first started having my back problems 2 1/2 years ago. Since then I've been diagnosed with a few other problems and the pain has definitly increased a whole lot. It's hard for me to say exactly how much pain the lumbar lodosis is causing me because with the sciatica, spondylolisthesis and pars fracture I just can't tell, there is just always a whole lot of pain. Right now my surgeon is treating me for my spondylolisthesis and fracture (and that should help with the sciatica). I haven't been thinking too much about the lordosis because my surgeon hasn't, so I guess I've just been focused on what he's been telling me to do in regards to the other problems. Next time I see him I will be bringing it up, I think I probably have similar questions as you do. I wonder how and why it got this way in the first place and I wonder if it will get worse. I know it can in some people so, why not me? I am curious as to what other problems you might have and what if any surgeries you've been through. I know I read your posts all the time and I see your name, but refresh my memory and give me your story, if you don't mind. I look forward ro hearing from you. Take care. Kristy. [/QUOTE]


    Hi again Kristy.... Thanks for your response...A quick refresher for ya... LOL!.... I started having lower back pain and sciatic pain ( pain in my right buttocks, back of my thigh...calf...right foot and toes...) back last December...kinda just ignored it until in March, I was out in the back yard and was running the weedeater, and stepped in a hole and twisted and fell... fell onto my butt.....it hurt but I ignored it... later that night I began to have horrible, horrible pain, worse then my typical sciatic pain....especially in my leg just where your butt meets your leg.. so the next day I went to the doctor, he diagnosed me with a pulled hamstring.... after about a month of physical therapy it did not get better, my therapist ask if they checked my back to see if that was the problem, I said NO! they told me to have my Doc order a MRI of my lower back, next visit I ask him about it... he said it was not my lower back, it was my hamstring.. and ordered a MRI of my hamstring... of course it was NORMAL....that did not satisfy me... so I went and saw a Orthopedic surgeon my family had been very familiar with.. he ordered the MRI of my lower back... sure enough.... I had a 9mm herniation at L5-S1....Compressing on both left and right nerve roots.....so on June 2 of this year I had a Laminectomy/Discectomy ....for about 2 weeks I was completely pain free... then the pain began to return.... Had further MRI's....(Mild DDD L5-S1)... Myelogram/CT....(Normal as far as the Discs... but shows severe Lumbar Lordosis) Had a series of 3 ESI's ( DID NOT HELP) also had a EMG/NCV (showed nerve damage at S1....chronic Radiculopathy at L5-S1) PM Doc... and Neurologist both say I have nerve damage from the nerve compression on the S1 nerve before surgery.... I now have all the typical sciatic pains...Pain in my lower back... Hips.... but also have numbness, tingling, burning, and crawling feelings in my right leg... some pain now in my left leg.....I have no achillies reflex...last three toes on my right foot are numb.. and my foot aches horribly... Have a terrible aching pain at my tailbone....also have been experiencing terrible pain in my pelvic area lately....I can not sit for long, stand for long, or walk for long... only somewhat comfortable when laying down flat on my back....needless to say I am up and down alot....have fallen several times because of my leg giving out on me....Now walk with a cane for support and balance....can NOT lay on my stomach at all.. hurts to badly....Anyway, this is basically my story, don't think I forgot anything...Oh yeah, Have tried Neurontin, Keppra, and Zonegran for the nerve pain... but had to be removed because of side effects....I take Vicodin for my pain...or basically to help me sleep, it knocks me out....Anyway, If you have any questions for me, feel free to ask... Thanks again for the response..... Take Care....

     
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