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Old 01-28-2005, 08:01 PM   #1
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Question New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

I am confused by my Doc's response today to a new problem that has arisen. I get the distinct impression that he does not listen to me. I have multiple disc herniations from L3 to S1, all the way down. I also have lower lumbar lordosis and spinal setnosis. The herniations were work related and happened in an instant.
I had surgery 3 years after the herniation to reduce pain. My Doc still will not tell me the official name of the procedure that I had, but that is another story.
Right now what I am worried about is last Tuesday I stood up from the couch and got a stabbing pain that put me on the floor. Since then I am having trouble walking, lifting my legs when in a prone position and am losing bladder control.
My Doc says this is nothing to be concerned with and it should go away with the use of ice and time.
How do I go about shopping for a new doc without a refferal (he won't give me one) after or even during my BWC settlement talks without hurting my case?
I have always been afraid of messing up my BWC case and no one gives you a handbook of the do's and don'ts when you get hurt. I asked my lawyer but he has no idea.
Any suggestions?

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Old 01-28-2005, 08:44 PM   #2
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

I was told that if you have loss of bladder and weakness to contact a dr. right away,no fooling around!This is very serious it can be permenant damage!I'm not saying that it is but you need to see someone right away.As far as your doc goes fire him and find another he is there to help you,and he should def, be telling you what he is doing,what it is called,explaining the procedure until you undersand exactly what he is doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know what bwc is but if your lawyer can't answer your questions fire him too.
It sounds like your getting the you know what you know where!!
sending prayers,Heather

Old 01-28-2005, 09:00 PM   #3
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Do you have films? The day I met my OSS he was ready to tell me to get out of his office. Then he looked at my MRI films.... He was ready to book me that day. A picture is worth a thousand words.

Old 01-28-2005, 10:09 PM   #4
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Shakes you really need to see a competent Doc. right away, as my ortho on my first visit told me that i have a herniated disc and that if i loose my bladder control, I should see him ( or head to emergency room ) right away as this will cause serious problems. I'm sorry for being straight forward but you need to know this.

Old 01-29-2005, 11:07 AM   #5
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Shakespeare, it wouldn't be unreasonable for you to go to the emergency room today. Loss of bladder control is something to be alarmed about.
And on Monday, I would find another doctor pronto, or at least go get a second or third opinion. It sounds like your doctor is really not listening to you, and you don't have to put up with that. To me, that's the sign of a bad doctor.

Old 01-29-2005, 06:31 PM   #6
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Loss of bladder control is nothing to play with. You need urgent help and if your doctor won't listen, go to the ER. This loss of control could be cauda equina syndrome (type that into your browser for info) and if not taken care of, it can leave you with permanent damage to the nerves that control your bladder. It can even cause bowel problems; so it is critical that you get help. I know your wc case is important, but what the heck is a lawyer for if he cant tell you your rights? Right now, your health is much more important; you can always fight for your money under w/c with a better attorney. Your lawyer needs to call them, tell them the situation and get approval for you to see a neurosurgeon ASAP.....after you have been to ER.


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Old 01-29-2005, 08:13 PM   #7
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Get to the emergency room ASAP! I hope you're already there. Loss of bladder control is nothing to mess around with, as several others have already posted. Both of my surgeons told me that if I lost control of my bladder to call them on my way to the ER. After you're done at the ER, fire your doc and get a new one!

Old 01-29-2005, 08:20 PM   #8
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

Hi there,
I hope you've already taken care of this but if not you really need to go to the ER. Once there you will find out everything you need to know and they may also be able to help you in finding a good specialist and they should be able to give you a referral. That's the best advise I can give and I think you should take it, I wish you all the best of luck. Please take care and keep us posted. Kristy.

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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?

I agree with the others here, get thee to the nearest ER.This truely is not something to mess with.everytime I have gone to see any NS one of the first questions they ask is if you are having any bowel or bladder problems.this is considered to be a "grave" sign that requires immediate attention,or you could risk actual paralyzation.i really do hope that you have gone to an ER by now and have had this looked into but if not, please go there asap.Please keep us posted here,K?marcia
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:03 PM   #10
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Re: New Pain. How do You Get Doc To Listen?


I am not sure what the B stands for in the BWC. My husband had a WC case. We were able to call in to his worker and ask permission to see another doctor. You have a choice of two, up front, w/o permission, and then you have to ask. We just went ahead and started seeing different specialists, ortho, neuro, neuro surgeon, and PT before asking. We didnt' want to get bogged down in paperwork. But, I made sure to document everything, everday.

In the end, I submitted all of the bills to WC. They have, so far, paid everyone off. We didn't charge it to our private insurance and we made sure to check the box on the paperwork that always asks if it is injury related. We also, alwaus told them that it was an WC case.

They are just trying to keep down costs by telling you that you can only see docs that are approved, but in reality they are more lenient than they let on. When you received your WC paperwork, wasn't there a packet that had "frequenty asked questions" in it? I found that to be most helpful.

As for bladder control, are you wearing diapers? Total loss of bladder control? I think that is the stage that they are looking for. There may be other factors involved. But, to be on the safe side, I would call the ER or your insurance worker.

take care,

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